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Old 06-30-2015, 07:57 PM   #1
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Head gasket

Well I was looking in the engine bay and I found a small coolant leak from the head gasket. No puddles or anything, just seeping. I need some insight. Is this an immediate fix issue or do I have time on my side? I appreciate any input guys. Click image for larger version

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Old 06-30-2015, 08:20 PM   #2
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Your out of time, fix it
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:32 PM   #3
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Any recommendations on type of gaskets?
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:50 PM   #4
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I have always had luck with Fel-Pro, but Ford Racing would do.

Not sure what your experience level is, just to give you some insight Ford uses Torque to yield head bolts which means they are one and done.

You can buy Head Gasket kits that include all the gaskets and bolts you need. It's not that tuff of a job and can be done with the motor in the car, good luck and post some pictures, is that an 03 or 04 cant tell from the picture?
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Thanks for the info, I'm a mech for the army but first time working on the mod motor. It's an 04, I'm getting ready for a deployment in a few months. I was curious if it could wait till after I get back. It's gonna be sitting in my garage the entire time. Once again thanks for the advice.
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If you not driving it it will be fine

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Old 06-30-2015, 11:15 PM   #7
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Idk , I would like to see more pictures of the leak.
I would do a leak down test before anything.

Ford gaskets all the way , none of the fel-pro or ford racing crap.

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Old 07-01-2015, 11:33 AM   #8
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Ok, I'll post some pics when I get off work.
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Idk , I would like to see more pictures of the leak.
I would do a leak down test before anything.

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He said he wanted to store it while he deployed and work on it when he got back there will be no one driving therefore it won't harm it no run no headgasket leak

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Ok here we go, first, if you didn't know Ford Racing is FORD and Fel-Pro has been making gasket almost as long as Ford has been building cars!

A leak down test typically refers to testing a cylinder for its ability to hold a given pressure over a period of time and is measured in percentage of loss.

If you are referring to a coolant system pressure test, that would be ok but judging by the amount of coolant in the picture i'm not sure it will revel the leak.

I would do a cooling system check both warm and cold but again i would expect it to start spray coolant just because you pressurized the system.

8606, If you are just going to drive it around town, keep an eye on the coolant level just wouldn't be taking any long road trips.

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Again I really appreciate the advice. Ok so I took more pictures. I noticed that my intake at the crossover on the pass side had coolant around it. So I looked in between and sure enough the leak is forming drops right on the head gasket. I'm still going to do a leak down test and coolant pressure test. But I'm sure it's the intake.

The mustang has 88,000 miles and from what I've seen on the forum. That's when I would expect it to go. Click image for larger version

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Good investigation, the intakes are notorious for this although it was the plastic crossover that failed, looks like you have the aluminum one which is the fix for this problem.

Whatever you do don't buy the Dorman, you can get a Ford Racing intake for around $215.00 pretty much anywhere.
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Whew!!! Replacing a warped or cracked intake is alot easier than doing a head gasket. As WJL said, make sure to get a PI ford racing intake, no Dorman junk. Also to nip it in the butt, there is no need to go with any other aftermarket intakes either. The oem one flows great, and holds up fine on mild boost applications. You'll want new gaskets as well (fel-pro is great). Even the updated ones with an aluminum crossover were seen to warp as well, so it's not really unusual.
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Well I got the ford racing intake on order, $284 with gaskets and 3 day shipping. Thanks everyone for the help.
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I have the same puddle but no other symptoms yet


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Good investigation, the intakes are notorious for this although it was the plastic crossover that failed, looks like you have the aluminum one which is the fix for this problem.

Whatever you do don't buy the Dorman, you can get a Ford Racing intake for around $215.00 pretty much anywhere.
Nope, its a fix for the cracking crossover that the 99/00 cars had but it is NOT a fix for the plastic warping and cracking under the crossover. They all fail eventually, just a matter of when.

This is a 38k mile plastic intake I pulled off a 05 Vic motor. Mileage is not the factor with them, it is heat cycles and time.



Agreed about the Dorman or the AM one... ONLY buy the FRPP intake. Never buy a PI intake used or you'll likely wind up with the above picture in short order.

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Well I got the ford racing intake on order, $284 with gaskets and 3 day shipping. Thanks everyone for the help.
That's kinda steep... if you got it from LRS then you overpaid. AM still has them for $215 and gaskets are like $20. Shipping is free plus there is a 6% forum discount for AM. No idea why LRS is charging more unless Ford is now charging more and AM has not caught up yet... I should probably order mine from AM like... now lol.

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Likely have the same issue in the picture I posted. Warps under the crossover and leaks. New intake cures it.
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The last time i checked AM was like $38.00 just for one head to manifold gasket $78.00 for two
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At that price it better come with a packet of analease and a scented candle...


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Nope, its a fix for the cracking crossover that the 99/00 cars had but it is NOT a fix for the plastic warping and cracking under the crossover. They all fail eventually, just a matter of when.

This is a 38k mile plastic intake I pulled off a 05 Vic motor. Mileage is not the factor with them, it is heat cycles and time.



Agreed about the Dorman or the AM one... ONLY buy the FRPP intake. Never buy a PI intake used or you'll likely wind up with the above picture in short order.



That's kinda steep... if you got it from LRS then you overpaid. AM still has them for $215 and gaskets are like $20. Shipping is free plus there is a 6% forum discount for AM. No idea why LRS is charging more unless Ford is now charging more and AM has not caught up yet... I should probably order mine from AM like... now lol.



Likely have the same issue in the picture I posted. Warps under the crossover and leaks. New intake cures it.

Where can I find the $20 gaskets for the manifold?


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Where can I find the $20 gaskets for the manifold?


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Rockauto..com is always the answer

Advanced auto parts had it for like $80 lol


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Lol, when a sentence is blue, its a link... And that's for the Fel Pros, they have cheaper ones although I would only recommend getting OEM or Fel Pro. I've never had an issue with any Fel Pro gasket ever.


Yeah **** autozone. They're good for fluids and a few other things but for actual parts... hell no. For Rockauto, use the 5% discount code in the forums here. Just google "rockauto discount mustangevolution" and it'll be the first result.
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I need a set myself, one of the local part stores "Advanced" has a Fel-pro kit Part No. MS 95728 for $23.00, not sure if its the same as rockauto.

i'm going to go look at them, from the pictures on the net they don't appear to be the same quality of the FORD gaskets.

I will also check with Ford one of the local dealers has a great parts guy who will sometimes cut you a break.

You definitely don't want to cheap out on that gasket.

There are times to take chance, i don't think this is one of them.

I will let you know what i find.
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The Fel Pro gaskets I linked to are top quality. I've bought them myself, that exact set from that exact vendor for my blue 98 that had a PI motor in it. Pictures on the interwebz are just pictures on the interwebz.
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Good to hear that, this engine swap project is starting to add up so a little price break is good.

I as well have never had any issues or concerns using Fel-Pro Gaskets.
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