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Old 07-11-2015, 12:18 AM   #36
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Cobra vs Z06

It's not rocket science to make them fast. Hell I can make a Challenger R/T fast and it's basically the modern day 2V.
And that's a nice Firebird. They've always looked so much better than the Camaros.
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Eh, but the Firehawk/WS6 will lack the speed. They are very nice but I've got a 2001 GT and my buddy has a 2001 WS6. I've got a lot of mods and he has minor but he's still has more in his car (including price) that I do and my car outruns his every time. Though those LS1 engines are sweeeeet Attachment 186883 Attachment 186884. His WS6. Attachment 186885 My GT.


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Your buddy can't drive. A stock ws6 will destroy a full Bolton 2v. Then go full Bolton against full Bolton and it's even more nasty. The 2v needs nitrous or boost to compare

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Your buddy can't drive. A stock ws6 will destroy a full Bolton 2v. Then go full Bolton against full Bolton and it's even more nasty. The 2v needs nitrous or boost to compare

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You must not be that familiar with these 2 vehicles. Bone stock that ws6 will run 13.3 with a good driver on the wheel. I do have gears, control arms, transmission mods etc. He has a lot of bolt ons but stock gears. His best time HE could achieve was a 13.4. This cars best slip is 13 flat with me at the wheel.


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You must not be that familiar with these 2 vehicles. Bone stock that ws6 will run 13.3 with a good driver on the wheel. I do have gears, control arms, transmission mods etc. He has a lot of bolt ons but stock gears. His best time HE could achieve was a 13.4. This cars best slip is 13 flat with me at the wheel.


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And when I figure out how to get a really good launch I'm sure I would be dipping in twelves. I do need to get my tune back though, fixed a fuel leak so I had to disconnect the battery, now I am lacking like 40 ponies 😩


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You must not be that familiar with these 2 vehicles. Bone stock that ws6 will run 13.3 with a good driver on the wheel. I do have gears, control arms, transmission mods etc. He has a lot of bolt ons but stock gears. His best time HE could achieve was a 13.4. This cars best slip is 13 flat with me at the wheel.


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Lol OK. I'm not talking about at the track. From a roll he would demolish you. And I'm more familiar with then then you think. 2vs are slow and need nitrous or boost to be anything close to impressive.

At the track a lot of different things come into play on why the faster/ more powerful car may possibly loose.

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Where's Scotty on this. 😱

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Lol OK. I'm not talking about at the track. From a roll he would demolish you. And I'm more familiar with then then you think. 2vs are slow and need nitrous or boost to be anything close to impressive.

At the track a lot of different things come into play on why the faster/ more powerful car may possibly loose.

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Oh yeah, on an actual track I'm sure that LS would take it. But we have raced every which way multiple times. I just feel your downing those engines more than you should be. For what it's worth, they are pretty good. They aren't 5.7l or 6.1 for that matter, but with the right combination of mods and parts you can get a nice little street/track car. Of course I am optimized for the strip and dragging so I wouldn't know a lot about track racing.


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Got the cobra , honestly driving the 2 .. the cobra had alot more balls and rode just as good as the corvette.

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Nice to see a terminator back on the forum. Definitely one of the icons of the modern mustangs.
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You must not be that familiar with these 2 vehicles. Bone stock that ws6 will run 13.3 with a good driver on the wheel. I do have gears, control arms, transmission mods etc. He has a lot of bolt ons but stock gears. His best time HE could achieve was a 13.4. This cars best slip is 13 flat with me at the wheel.


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Dang bro. Your buddy has a V8 LS1 motor and the best he can do is a 13.4 1/4 mile on a drag track thats prepped. My little pansy bolt on 297 rwhp, 3.7 can run a faster time than that on the factory all season tires. 👍


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2vs need nitrous or boost to be impressive, lol


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Dang bro. Your buddy has a V8 LS1 motor and the best he can do is a 13.4 1/4 mile on a drag track thats prepped. My little pansy bolt on 297 rwhp, 3.7 can run a faster time than that on the factory all season tires. 👍


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Sounds like a driver mod should be ordered for that fellow
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Sounds like a driver mod should be ordered for that fellow
And that too sir. Ba ha ha

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Where's Scotty on this. 😱

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The car ran a 13.3 bone stock. Sure, he's obviously not the best driver, but with just bolt ons minus gears and any major suspension and transmission upgrades. A 13.2 is pretty good (not that he pulled it off, just saying) I don't know why people think these are the gods of cars.


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They are the gods of sports cars for the money. Your buddy's car with basic bolt ons and a cam swap is a 400rwhp car. He should be 1.5-2 seconds faster than you if he wasn't retarded.
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They are the gods of sports cars for the money. Your buddy's car with basic bolt ons and a cam swap is a 400rwhp car. He should be 1.5-2 seconds faster than you if he wasn't retarded.
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The car ran a 13.3 bone stock. Sure, he's obviously not the best driver, but with just bolt ons minus gears and any major suspension and transmission upgrades. A 13.2 is pretty good (not that he pulled it off, just saying) I don't know why people think these are the gods of cars.


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Bc like I said a full exhaust,tune,cai,gears 2v isn't even at a 100% stock ws6's level. They were beating the 03-04 cobras, so think how that makes your 2v stack up

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Bc like I said a full exhaust,tune,cai,gears 2v isn't even at a 100% stock ws6's level. They were beating the 03-04 cobras, so think how that makes your 2v stack up.

They are still nasty. For instance there is a ws6 out here by me, makes 463/416 through unlocked converter and a 4l80e.
It's a 370ci motor. It is flat out nasty. Top 10 dig list in Austin and he has held the the #1 spot for awhile. Car is not good from a roll but from a dig it hurts feelings badly very bad.

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Bc like I said a full exhaust,tune,cai,gears 2v isn't even at a 100% stock ws6's level. They were beating the 03-04 cobras, so think how that makes your 2v stack up

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Uhh? The biggest difference in the Ls1 and the Ws6 was just the ram air intake? Literally that was the only engine modification? I think some has suspension upgrades but it literally only added 2hp? Or something like that? The Ws6 was not all that.


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Uhh? The biggest difference in the Ls1 and the Ws6 was just the ram air intake? Literally that was the only engine modification? I think some has suspension upgrades but it literally only added 2hp? Or something like that? The Ws6 was not all that.


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I know this
I was just using the ws6 in general. But I will use f-bodys with a ls1 so your not confused
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Uhh? The biggest difference in the Ls1 and the Ws6 was just the ram air intake? Literally that was the only engine modification? I think some has suspension upgrades but it literally only added 2hp? Or something like that? The Ws6 was not all that.


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Now, the dude your talking about I'm sure has an excellent set up, but definitely not stock if he's putting out over 400 rwhp.


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Come on people, the 2015 Gt runs a 12.8? A few more mods and learning how to launch better I'm sure I can hit twelves? 2v do lack some power, but mines naturally aspirated and I'd say that's a pretty impressive run. Why so many 2v haters on here? And Rap, I shouldn't have to defend it, your butt hurt and being an *** about the fact that a 2v beat a WS6. Really not that big of a deal. There's a smart car out there that runs 10s, why act so surprised? Anyway, don't hate, appreciate. And buy the Vette. The fastest and honestly you'll get more looks for that especially if you put money into it in the future, on the other hand, a true Terminator is iconic and probably cheaper on insurance and if you have any problems it won't cost so much to fix. Plus I don't like the way Vettes drive, (excluding the new hornets, though sitting is still a little weird for me) basically, fells like your lounging and getting an 18 wheeler pull up next to you on the highway sitting that low gives an uneasy feeling.


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Your 2v beat your friends ws6 due to driver error or car error. That car should have pulled away from you like you were sitting still. That's the fact.
Had a 2v
Had a 03 cobra
Had a supercharged 3v
I know what they all can do.

Yes the 2v is a good car, I still like them always will but we have to be realistic here

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Your 2v beat your friends ws6 due to driver error or car error. That car should have pulled away from you like you were sitting still. That's the fact.
Had a 2v
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Not my fault you decided to put all the power to the engine and my the wheels. On a drag race it takes. A lot more than just horsepower to get you going. And once again A DRAG RACE, I've already said he could probably get me at the track. With that said, you just know it is very possible to get a 4.6l 2V into 12s without nos/turbo/supercharger. You will also know it is very hard nearly impossible to get a mostly stock 2001 WS6 into 12s.


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Not my fault you decided to put all the power to the engine and my the wheels. On a drag race it takes. A lot more than just horsepower to get you going. And once again A DRAG RACE, I've already said he could probably get me at the track. With that said, you just know it is very possible to get a 4.6l 2V into 12s without nos/turbo/supercharger. You will also know it is very hard nearly impossible to get a mostly stock 2001 WS6 into 12s.


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Must be running on 5 cylinders, those firebirds haul ***.
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Must be running on 5 cylinders, those firebirds haul ***.

Hell yeah they do, eat up a stock 4.6 any day.


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The only problem with 2vs is the shorty powerband


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Bbbbbbbbbb bonfire. Uh. A nice little tune clears that up. First time I did a j-mod but turns out if you just optimize it right it pretty much can open everything up. That's why you can take one of those stock motors and add almost 45 ponies just with a good tune 😝 Who asked for a mohito?


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45hp on a tune? Sorry no.

Look we are not all saying the 2V isn't a good car. I love them, my last and current cars are 2V cars but I'm not sure why you are so adamant about them being on even a close playing field to the LS1. They aren't.

You are likely having so much success because you are auto and modded and racing him from a stop and your setup is better and you are a better driver. It is not always about the power level which is what I always try to tell ppl.

He does a few mods of his own and you guys go from a roll tho... prepare thy anus...
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45hp on a tune? Sorry no.

Look we are not all saying the 2V isn't a good car. I love them, my last and current cars are 2V cars but I'm not sure why you are so adamant about them being on even a close playing field to the LS1. They aren't.

You are likely having so much success because you are auto and modded and racing him from a stop and your setup is better and you are a better driver. It is not always about the power level which is what I always try to tell ppl.

He does a few mods of his own and you guys go from a roll tho... prepare thy anus...
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Congrats on the Termi Slow!

I've got a friend with a C5 zo6. Love that car. It's alot harder to mod (compared to the Termi, and even an ls1 camaro) given you have to basically remove the engine to do a cam swap. But they are quite impressive, even in today's standards. But you can't beat the whine of an eaton or Kenne Bell on a Cobra.

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