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Old 08-13-2015, 08:26 PM   #1
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Radar detector

I dont really know what category to place this under but, what is a good radar that doesnt cost allot?
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They are all gonna cost u a ton extra in tickets because you will still get tagged. Leo's now can scan your plates as you pass and datalog those automatically as well so not much use...but if you are dtermined passport I think is the name around 500 for a good one or u cqn use the waze(sp) app if ur in a city

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They are all gonna cost u a ton extra in tickets because you will still get tagged. Leo's now can scan your plates as you pass and datalog those automatically as well so not much use...but if you are dtermined passport I think is the name around 500 for a good one or u cqn use the waze(sp) app if ur in a city

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Can u explain the purpose of scanning plates a little more? Also my friend swore by his valentine radar as it not only alerted but displays an arrow of which direction the beam is coming from.


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If your scanner is in range to detect the police's laser. You are in their range to laser you. Either way you're getting a ticket if they want to. Scanners are illegal in most states.


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Plate scanners were used by repo men and meter readers until a few years ago when homeland security centralized everything. Now alot of trffic cameras, ALL red light cameras and quite a few state and local agencies collect the data. Its tagged by owner, car, location, time. Basically over a couple months it gives them a perfect profile of you. If you own the car your driving that is...not gonna get into facial recognition... some states have passed laws limiting how long they can keep the data but most havent. 98% of the time they have already uploaded it to a national ntsb database anyways

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I mainly drive on the highway, and only speed there, so i doubt i will be getting caught by a camera
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Oh ok. Well for the op most ppl say don't buy one that's under $100 but honestly the passport and valentines are the way to go if you are gonna get one. If it saves you even 1-2 times its paid for itself already. You can always find them used you would just wanna make sure the serial/model numbers are intact so you can check to see if it's up to date on the firmware/software or whatever they call it.


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I was a traffic cop for over 20 years and used the latest and best radar and laser. Since retiring and moving clear across the country, I would certainly use a detector if I thought it might do me any good other than a nice reason for someone to bust my window to take it.
Also, if it's visible to the officer if you do get stopped for speeding, say goodbye to any chance of a warning.
Detector usefulness does depend a lot on your areas geographical terrain, your local officers equipment etc. but most use either laser or instant on multi vehicle and direction tracking which is pretty darn hard to defend.
An example of how your terrain can influence: country two lane roads with lots of hills and curves...an officer may leave his moving radar on and transmitting because he may frequently round a curve and not have time to hit the button before you're already too close and passing. So you may get the detector warning in plenty of time.
If you've got long open roads, they're prime for lasers and those the toughest.
The typical distance I felt comfortable and steady enough to get a good laser lock and also know exactly for sure what car make model and color I sighted on was 1000 feet max. The lock is instant.
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Slater not true my cobra radar detector warns me over hills and around curves about a mile before j see the cop on the highway and .5 mile in the city.. Cobra is a good brand got it at best buy.. But check your states laws on them.
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I had a cobra detector from wal mart as well and it saved me a bunch of times. My only speeding ticket ever was when I did not have it plugged in. You still have to use common sense though. Its great when there are other cars around you since you're less of an easy target and the cop is shooting it at other cars before you even get there.

A few times I thought "this thing is just going off randomly wtf" then I would drive a half mile and see a cop in a sneaky freakin spot. As soon as that thing makes a beep at all Id nail the brakes.

It also goes off when driving by airports but thats understandable
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Old 08-14-2015, 12:22 AM   #11
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lol am i the only one that just drives the speed limit on cruise ^^...that being said i have a lot of cop friends that are also mustang guys. they all say the same thing that detectors are a waste. i'd probably say though better ways of spending that $100
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lol am i the only one that just drives the speed limit on cruise ^^...that being said i have a lot of cop friends that are also mustang guys. they all say the same thing that detectors are a waste. i'd probably say though better ways of spending that $100

I do the same thing man. No need for one if you use cruise control or just keep up with the flow of traffic and be smart.


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Old 08-14-2015, 05:27 AM   #14
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Mine was a Christmas gift but it was the 200$ cobra one from best buy.. It's saved me a lot, so they most definitely aren't a waste I think cops don't like them because they know they do work lol
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I live in NJ, if you get busted for speeding on the highway you were doing 90+ lol.
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I live in NJ, if you get busted for speeding on the highway you were doing 90+ lol.
Haha, sounds like SC, and GA. Speed limit 55, flow of traffic 75+. Your at a greater risk of an accident doing the speed limit in some places.

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If you are doing 55 in the highway you are going to maybe maybe not get run off the road if you are in the right lane. If you are in the left lane you had better be doing 75-80 at least and during rush hour... left lane during rush hour is 90-100 if its clear.
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As far as the topic of this thread... don't speed like an *******. Keep up with traffic on the highway and backroads... there are random houses with hidden driveways and kids (or deer). A distant cousin of mine was killed because he ran out into the road from a hidden driveway and that guy wasn't even speeding...


I've had Mustangs since I was 19 and have never needed a detector and have 0 points and have not been pulled over for speeding in years (knock on wood). And I still have fun. Radar detectors are a waste of money and will only piss off the cop when he/she does nail you doing 80 on a 45mph county road and has your car impounded. And rightfully so.
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No doubt, I also believe in NOT speeding. But its hard to let a Camaro RS on the highway at midnight when no traffic is out to NOT show him what the Sixxer's are made of. So radar helps there. Its just my opinion, even though i made a suggestion I dont even own a radar product at all.

I am looking for one though...
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Growing up a kid of a chief with cousins who are on the job and siblings who are practicing law and in politics and myself career military it just honestly never occurred to me that people worry about police. Even the tumes when I was young I was never looking out for them I just acted as if I was supposed to be doing that crazy **** and when I would politely speak with law enforcement my confidence usually got me off and the few times it didnt I never worried because I always kept prepaid legal for tickets

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I suppose many people can speculate that a detector saved them from a ticket but even if I were given one for free, I just wouldn't use it. It's a target for thieves and looks just like a twenty dollar bill sitting on your dash. It's a pain to put away and reinstall all the time.
And I can't say this enough...in my experience as the guy that wrote speeding tickets, if I walked up with the idea that this guy can get a warning from me instead (because of refreshing honesty or otherwise a pleasant encounter etc) that all went out the window if I saw a detector.
My overall sense was that the driver speeds frequently and doesn't get caught and will laugh at my gullibility if I let him drive off with a "shucks parder, just ease it up a bit "
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I suppose many people can speculate that a detector saved them from a ticket but even if I were given one for free, I just wouldn't use it. It's a target for thieves and looks just like a twenty dollar bill sitting on your dash. It's a pain to put away and reinstall all the time.
And I can't say this enough...in my experience as the guy that wrote speeding tickets, if I walked up with the idea that this guy can get a warning from me instead (because of refreshing honesty or otherwise a pleasant encounter etc) that all went out the window if I saw a detector.
My overall sense was that the driver speeds frequently and doesn't get caught and will laugh at my gullibility if I let him drive off with a "shucks parder, just ease it up a bit "
What if I had 2 detectors will that give me twice the coverage

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Just wear a tinfoil hat and if that fails, call the officer a lying pos. This will throw him off his game and you can follow up with : Aren't there real crimes going on right now? I pay your salary.
Don't make eye contact with him, this seems like you're guilty. Instead, overtly stare at his sidearm.
He will let you go.
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Just wear a tinfoil hat and if that fails, call the officer a lying pos. This will throw him off his game and you can follow up with : Aren't there real crimes going on right now? I pay your salary.
Don't make eye contact with him, this seems like you're guilty. Instead, overtly stare at his sidearm.
He will let you go.
That's what I figured and I'm in luck I have a tin foil hat

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Easy solution for me. Don't speed near the military base and include military ID along with the license/insurance/registration. Not that I have needed to recently but its actually required if I am stopped in another state and have mix/match insurance/license. If you are active duty you can do 2 out of 3. Like registered and insured in the state I'm stationed but licensed in my home state. Which is always what I do with the way NJ insurance is. I've been back in NJ for 8 years tho...
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If you are doing 55 in the highway you are going to maybe maybe not get run off the road if you are in the right lane. If you are in the left lane you had better be doing 75-80 at least and during rush hour... left lane during rush hour is 90-100 if its clear.
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So if you do the speed limit, get the **** outa my way"


Looks like you guys have the radar detector discussion about covered.
If I was ever going to take my decades of experience, and turn professional speeder, I would probably skip the radar detector altogether, or at least do a hidden installation. I would take a more "proactive" approach by installing LIDAR jamming equipment. It is probably illegal in most states but, unlike radar jamming equipment, it is not a federal crime. As a matter of fact, in CA, it is an infraction, in most cases, if you get caught with such equipment on your vehicle. The fine is less than most speeding tickets, and it is not a moving violation so no points on your driving record.
Still, this would be a less-than-foolproof way to speed down America's roadways. For one, if you do get caught, they are going to confiscate all of your equipment. And, a Law Enforcement Officer doesn't need radar, lidar, or anything else to write a speeding citation. They can issue one based solely on their experienced observation. The fancy "tools" just makes it much easier for them if it ends up going to court.
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California people are crazy. Cops will pass you even if you are above the limit. Down in SoCal with their giant highways you can get passed while doing 90mph


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I've seen and heard of the LIDAR jammers but I just don't think I would trust it working. In all the years I used laser, I never once had a vehicle that just wouldn't lock or gave me an obviously incorrect speed and you would have to think that in the South Florida area where I worked, those LIDAR jammers were out there and being used by some.
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I've lurked around in the LE forums a bit and found a couple of reports of not being able to lock on to a vehicle. One was a Corvette, for no explainable reason, and the other was a brand new high end luxury car... A Mercedes I think. They seemed to come to the conclusion that the Mercedes "lane assist" and the sensors that help to keep you from rear ending other cars while texting, those devices may have been interfering with the LIDAR.
I agree with you though, the best that you could possibly hope for is that it would maybe take the gun longer to lock on and may give some time to slow the car down.

And I didn't mention anything about the rear of the car. Those guns work equally well with the vehicle moving away from the gun as they do towards it. So you would need to provide coverage for the rear of the car as well.
That's how I got my last speeding ticket... The guy shot me from behind.

Really, for superdrift, since he is doing most of his speeding on the highway, a CB radio might be the most reliable way to avoid speed traps. Truckers always send that info out over the airways, but you are going to have to listen to a lot of their chatter to hear it.
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