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Old 08-21-2015, 03:10 PM   #1
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Problem? Or wanting more money..

When i got my tires i considered a wheel alignment. Went in, etc etc.

Well they cant do it. They said the rack and pinion is out and i need a new one, outer tie rods. So instead of a 65$ wheel alignment they want 540$ for all this..

Thought? does the rack and pinion have anything to do with wheel alignment?..inform me please. Also can you install one yourself?


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And it is a known fact the place i went will more than likely tell you you beed outer tie rods but dont.


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Take it somewhere else for a 2nd opinion.
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Take it somewhere else for a 2nd opinion.

I will, i want to see what others will say


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I was told the same thing as well and am curious
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Old 08-21-2015, 05:03 PM   #6
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How are they determining the rack and is out bushings

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Steering

If you are having a problem with the steering rack and pinion, your steering wheel will have a loose feel to it. The car may also wander on the road when you are driving, moving slightly to one side or the other instead of traveling in a straight line. Steering will seem harder than it should, and the car will not respond well to the movements of the steering wheel. It may also be harder to turn the car in one direction than the other. Another sign of a problem is that the car will be harder to steer in the morning than later in the day. You may also find that the steering wheel does not return properly to its normal neutral position after you have made a turn.

Noise

According to the New Jersey Division of Consumer Affairs, sounds such as thudding, clunking, or a persistent knocking can be warnings of a loose rack and pinion steering system. If you hear these types of sounds as you drive, you need to get the system checked out.

Tires

Unusual tire wear is another symptom of a steering rack and pinion problem, though there are other conditions that can cause uneven tire wear. If your tires show uneven wear, where they are more worn on either the inside or the outside than on the rest of the tire, you should suspect a rack and pinion problem.

Leaks

If you find that your car seems to be leaking fluid from the front end, it could be a leak from the rack and pinion steering system. If you want to verify where the fluid is coming from, put some newspaper or cardboard under the boots of your rack and pinion system. If the fluid drips from the boots, you will know that your rack and pinion steering system is compromised. Most likely you will see at least some of the other symptoms listed in this article together with a fluid leak.



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If you don't have these issues then you need to go somewhere else

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Also where did you go for an alignment

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If you don't have these issues then you need to go somewhere else

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Also where did you go for an alignment

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Southern tire mart. I do have a loose feel in my steering wheel but it is not something terrible. I drive just fine, its not hard to turn. Or anything.


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Old 08-21-2015, 07:27 PM   #10
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Well I would go get another opinion sounds like there trying for more money

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How many miles are on your car Joe?
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:09 PM   #12
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How many miles are on your car Joe?

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Well I would go get another opinion sounds like there trying for more money

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I will tomorrow, my steering has no problem. It is loose, and when i stop i mean the steering wheel turns to te left. But thats it.


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I will tomorrow, my steering has no problem. It is loose, and when i stop i mean the steering wheel turns to te left. But thats it.


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You mean it turns to the left without the wheels turning? if that's the case then it is possibly you're rack and pinion is bad

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Show us a video of this turning to the left

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You mean it turns to the left without the wheels turning? if that's the case then it is possibly you're rack and pinion is bad

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Show us a video of this turning to the left

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Alright i will try to do a video. And not necessarily, it will turn left but the car will to. But it will do it sometimes when i stop without me even doing anything expect applying brakes.


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If your car pulls left when you brake you need to get your brakes fixed asap

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Old 08-22-2015, 02:11 PM   #16
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Alright i will try to do a video. And not necessarily, it will turn left but the car will to. But it will do it sometimes when i stop without me even doing anything expect applying brakes.


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This has nothing to do with you rack that's a brake problem I thought you were saying when at a stop you turn your wheel to the left there was a lot of play without the wheels turning

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OK I re read what you said so what you mean is if you let go of the steering wheel it will pull left and if the brakes are applied it pulls left so that would be an alignment is and possibly brakes but more alignment

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OK I re read what you said so what you mean is if you let go of the steering wheel it will pull left and if the brakes are applied it pulls left so that would be an alignment is and possibly brakes but more alignment

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I have not had a issue with that. The ONLY thing i would consider is my steering wheel is somewhat like loose. But its not horrible.


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At 154k, it wouldn't surprise me if something is worn out in your front end... Like the tie rods.
If your steering seems relatively normal and the steering rack is not leaking, it probably doesn't need to be replaced. The steering rack bushings, on the other hand, very likely DO need replacing.
The tie rods and the rack bushings are pretty easy to replace yourself, with a minimal amount of tools. You could install any worn parts yourself and then find a REPUTABLE shop to do the alignment.
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At 154k, it wouldn't surprise me if something is worn out in your front end... Like the tie rods.

If your steering seems relatively normal and the steering rack is not leaking, it probably doesn't need to be replaced. The steering rack bushings, on the other hand, very likely DO need replacing.

The tie rods and the rack bushings are pretty easy to replace yourself, with a minimal amount of tools. You could install any worn parts yourself and then find a REPUTABLE shop to do the alignment.

The outer tie rods what they said, and i can do that.


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They are very simple to replace. The hardest part (for me) is getting it put back together with the alignment close enough to drive to the alignment shop! Lol

I would just replace the inner tie rod as well. While you have it apart.
The rack bushings are easy to do as well. You just need to unbolt the steering arm from the rack, and then remove the two bolts connecting it to the k-member. You can pull it out far enough to replace the bushings without removing the power steering lines.
If you can, check the ball joints for any play, as well.
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Stray Bullitt hit the nail on the head !!! Your Bushings are probably bad. About $30 for new ones. Check to see if yours are the Oval Shape or Round Bushings as they make 2 different ones. Really simple to change them out.
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You might also want to change your sway bar bushings while you're at it. About $20 & quite simple to do also. You could also buy a whole front end bushing kit for about $60 on Ebay.
You'll have a nice tight front end if you do that.
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