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Old 09-26-2015, 07:45 PM   #1
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Nitrous time

Finally got the funds right and have the time to get this goin.

I'm wanting to get a kit.. But I'd like to be educated on spray first. What are do's and dont's? Brands to stay away from? Basic nitrous need to know stuff..

Also what exactly do I need to get..

I was thinking wet kit, purge, bottle heater, window switch and an extra bottle or 2 lol

Zex, nitrous outlet good brands
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I believe there is a thread on here somewhere called "Myths of Nitrous" Google that and find it, real good thread.
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Finally got the funds right and have the time to get this goin.

I'm wanting to get a kit.. But I'd like to be educated on spray first. What are do's and dont's? Brands to stay away from? Basic nitrous need to know stuff..

Also what exactly do I need to get..

I was thinking wet kit, purge, bottle heater, window switch and an extra bottle or 2 lol

Zex, nitrous outlet good brands

Go with the nitrous outlet plate kit for your car.
Window switch or a progressive
Purge
Bottle heater. The blanket style heaters sucks

Dont go over a 200 if pulling of the rail.
Don't spray with a 1/4 tank or less
Proper plugs depending on shot
Dedicated fuel system is the best route more $ but a lot safer.
Zex sucks don't use them
Start with a 100-150 shot and work your way up depending on traction ect.
If you are wanting more than a 200 look into a direct port.
Keep bottle pressure between 800-1000
2-3 quick little purge hits is all you need. No need to hold it down and make a fast and furious purge show.

2 10lb bottles and maybe a single 5lb on the ground behind your seat.



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You can't get better advice than raps. He's the forum giggly gas master.


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I will help you with anything you need when it comes to nitrous. Have more than enough experience using it on 4 wheels and 2.

Don't let my a$$hole ness discourage you.


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Nitrous time

Rap what's the major differences between a plate kit and wet?

Also I won't list my mods but if it's a bolt on I have it + cams.. (Minus a blower or turbo) so hopefully with supporting mods I can get down in the 11-12's
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The plate kit is a wet kit.

The Plate kit just mounts behind the throttle body. A lot better when it comes to proper distribution to all cylinders vs a single nozzle.

They have 2 types of nitrous systems dry and wet


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Gotcha, makes sense thong
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Omg lol my fiancé made me hit buttons.. Makes sense though...


What about purging.. How does that hook up and work
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Purge will hook up to the nitrous solenoid itself. It will be a smaller solenoid. Then it will have the tubing ran to the windshield area or wherever you choose. Will be activated by a actual button.


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I'm thinking of going thru my holes for wiper fluid since it doesn't work anyway lol
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That should work. It will hit the windshield directly on and make a nice little cloud effect.
I put mine right in the middle of the wiper cowl.


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Well I was going to try to turn the sprayers toward the front because I thought it would make the windshield hard to see out of lol or does it just go away
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Why do people run dry systems? It seems more complicated and more stuff to fail
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It just goes away.


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My knowledge is pretty slim but wet systems somewhat fuel themselves but dry systems need added fuel to compensate?
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My knowledge is pretty slim but wet systems somewhat fuel themselves but dry systems need added fuel to compensate?

Yes
A wet system sprays nitrous and fuel at the same time.

Dry system - just nitrous. So you need bigger injectors and or fuel pump depending on size of shot.


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So what the heck is the benefit of dry over wet?
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So what the heck is the benefit of dry over wet?

Wet = safer and for a lot better as far as tuning
For instance a direct port - say one cylinder is running lean you can jump the fuel up in that specific cylinder.

Dry = cheaper good if your looking at a 50-75 shot.


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Alright makes sense now. I have been wondering that for awhile now because in my mind wet seems better in every aspect
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Alright makes sense now. I have been wondering that for awhile now because in my mind wet seems better in every aspect

It is. All 3 kits that have been on my coyote have been wet kits.

I ran a dry kit on my bike though.


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That was actually going to be my next question haha. Max shot someone should do on a bike?
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That was actually going to be my next question haha. Max shot someone should do on a bike?

Depends on the bike.
I started with a 20 went to a 40 and finally a 60 on my gsxr600.
I still have no clue how it didn't blow up or lift the head on the 60 shot.
If I ever get around to getting another bike it will be a wet kit. It was a headache with the tuning for the nitrous on that thing.

I would say stock bike 600-1000cc 40 shot is all that's needed.

A 20 shot on a bike is like a 100 shot in a car. Feeling wise.


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A busa with a 100 shot would be nasty one day.

Or a 2015/16 Harley 883 sportster. With the 1250 big bore kit and a 40-60 shot. Oh yea that's what I'm talking about.


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So what the heck is the benefit of dry over wet?
These intake manifolds were not meant to have fuel mixed with the air flowing through them. They are more prone to allowing fuel to puddle in the intake manifold. The fuel has more mass than the air, so fuel droplets that are too big will separate from the air when it changes direction too fast. This affects each cylinder differently, so you can get maldistribution of the fuel and air. One cylinder might be making 30 extra horsepower, while the one on the far end might only be making an extra 6 horsepower and running lean AFR. The higher the RPMs, the safer you are with this

Wet kit is fine, but port injection is more ideal when you are running a port EFI manifold.
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Depends on the bike.
I started with a 20 went to a 40 and finally a 60 on my gsxr600.
I still have no clue how it didn't blow up or lift the head on the 60 shot.
If I ever get around to getting another bike it will be a wet kit. It was a headache with the tuning for the nitrous on that thing.

I would say stock bike 600-1000cc 40 shot is all that's needed.

A 20 shot on a bike is like a 100 shot in a car. Feeling wise.


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Well rap I'm gonna do some shopping tonight..

Will I need a designated fuel system?

I'm running big injectors, and I need to upgrade the pump because I have no idea if its stock or not..

And a wideband a/f then I should be set
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You only need a dedicated if you plan on going over a 200.
Anything below that you will be fine pulling from the fuel rail.


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Im thinking about spraying. Daniel on here is making damn good numbers for a stock engine. 420rwhp on 100shot.


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Im thinking about spraying. Daniel on here is making damn good numbers for a stock engine. 420rwhp on 100shot.


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What car


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What car


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User is speed_mister. We live in the same state. That car and him are like one. He knows how to drive. Beat a bolt on 5.0 from a dig if that tells you something..


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Also, it says 385 but he has upgraded to 125 shot. I know for a fact he makes 400 or more.


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His car does pretty well
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User is speed_mister. We live in the same state. That car and him are like one. He knows how to drive. Beat a bolt on 5.0 from a dig if that tells you something..


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Lol you ridding it pretty hard eh


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