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Old 09-29-2015, 01:52 PM   #1
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What order to lower?

Ok so as all of you know it costs well over 1k to successfully lower your mustang and have the rest of the suspension components still be reliable. I know a lot of us can't afford to do springs, caster camber plates, ball joints, bump steer kit, shocks, struts all at once.

So with that said what is the most efficient steps to take to lower them? Like without having to get an alignment after every install.


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Why not just start buying the parts as you can afford them and set them aside until you have everything. I did this with mine and it was the best way todo it in my opinion.
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Why not just start buying the parts as you can afford them and set them aside until you have everything. I did this with mine and it was the best way todo it in my opinion.
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Ok so as all of you know it costs well over 1k to successfully lower your mustang and have the rest of the suspension components still be reliable. I know a lot of us can't afford to do springs, caster camber plates, ball joints, bump steer kit, shocks, struts all at once.

So with that said what is the most efficient steps to take to lower them? Like without having to get an alignment after every install.
Loved the meme below but I honestly think that this could be done without the joints and bump-steer kit unless you're really looking to go balls to the wall on this.

I ran roughly this setup on my '01 for about 3 years and between PA's notoriously lovely roads, multiple track days and the occasional auto cross I never had an issue.

Just for instance:

Eibach Pro-Kit - $249.99
Eibach Pro-Damper Shock & Strut Kit - $479.99
J&M Caster Camber Plates - $183.80

Total - $913.78
Discount that I just PM'd you
= $858.78

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858.78 to the door!


Edit - Throw in the cost of an alignment too.
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Loved the meme below but I honestly think that this could be done without the joints and bump-steer kit unless you're really looking to go balls to the wall on this.

I ran roughly this setup on my '01 for about 3 years and between PA's notoriously lovely roads, multiple track days and the occasional auto cross I never had an issue.

Just for instance:

Eibach Pro-Kit - $249.99
Eibach Pro-Damper Shock & Strut Kit - $479.99
J&M Caster Camber Plates - $183.80

Total - $913.78
Discount that I just PM'd you
= $858.78

Plus shipping....



858.78 to the door!


Edit - Throw in the cost of an alignment too.

Sweet thanks for that! If I did springs and cc plates for the first step would I have to get another alignment after I get shocks and struts also? And then another when I decide to do the ball joints and bump steer kit?


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Sweet thanks for that!

If I did springs and cc plates for the first step would I have to get another alignment after I get shocks and struts also?

And then another when I decide to do the ball joints and bump steer kit?
Debatable brother!

If you did springs + plates off the bat and then struts and shocks down the road I would still get another alignment to be on the safe side.

The last thing you want to is be blindly burning through your front tires without even knowing it!

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Why not just start buying the parts as you can afford them and set them aside until you have everything. I did this with mine and it was the best way todo it in my opinion.
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^What he said! Or put your money away and when you get enough, order and install the whole suspension at the same time.
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Debatable brother!

If you did springs + plates off the bat and then struts and shocks down the road I would still get another alignment to be on the safe side.

The last thing you want to is be blindly burning through your front tires without even knowing it!

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Very true. You might also look into a place that offers "lifetime" alignments. So you pay like say 150 vs 100 but can come back whenever you want and get it aligned again. Leave out the part where you swapped parts out. I have had friends get away with this many times.
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As mentioned above, do all the work at once.
Lowering springs, SN95shocks/*Fox Body struts, C/C plates, the Steeda X2 balljoints, and a bumpsteer is a must.
That's been my experience with my builds.
I don't care if Mr. Ford himself told me otherwise, X2 balljoints and bumpsteer kit is needed.
JUST REMEMBER THAT YOU CAN NOT GET YOUR CAR ALIGNED WITHOUT USING A (MUSTANG) SHOP THAT HAS THE BUMPSTEER ALIGNMENT TOOL.
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Old 10-01-2015, 02:58 PM   #10
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How does this setup look?

http://www.maximummotorsports.com/Mu...ruts-P507.aspx
---375$

KONI STR.T FRONT STRUT (2)--275$

Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates----210$

Steeda x2 ball joints---136$

Steeda bump steer kit ---136$

Koni rear shocks (2)--- 140$

http://www.maximummotorsports.com/Co...-IRS-P510.aspx
---386$


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That's over a 1600$ setup tho.... Maybe I'll just keep my 4x4 stance...


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Depending on how low you go increases the cost. Under 1 inch you can usually just do springs.

And at $1600 i'd just go coil overs. Thats what i did.
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How does this setup look?

Mustang Coil-Over Kit with Springs, Front, Koni/Tokico/Strange/Lakewood Struts
---375$

KONI STR.T FRONT STRUT (2)--275$

Maximum Motorsports caster/camber plates----210$

Steeda x2 ball joints---136$

Steeda bump steer kit ---136$

Koni rear shocks (2)--- 140$

Coil-Over Kit with Springs, Koni 30-Series Shocks, rear, 1979-04 Mustang non IRS
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My EXACT set-up with H&R SS springs!!!
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My EXACT set-up with H&R SS springs!!!

You can run H&R SS springs with coilovers?


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Ideally, doing it all at once would be the most efficient and you would only have to get one alignment, but since budget is a factor, you can do it other ways and still be able to drive around. My suggestion (since budget is a factor here) is to install lowering springs and C/C Plates at the same time. You'll have the look you want and the alignment will be correct, so you can drive around like you were before, but without the hideous 4x4 look and not worrying about chewing up your front tires. I did this on my last GT and it worked out just fine for daily driving, and is also why I still have my H&Rs still sitting in my garage, still waiting to order C/C Plates.

Eventually you'll want to get the other parts, but you can buy struts & shocks and have them installed without screwing up the alignment. Do the balljoints and bumpsteer kit at the same time, so you'll only have to get it aligned one more time.
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Ideally, doing it all at once would be the most efficient and you would only have to get one alignment, but since budget is a factor, you can do it other ways and still be able to drive around. My suggestion (since budget is a factor here) is to install lowering springs and C/C Plates at the same time. You'll have the look you want and the alignment will be correct, so you can drive around like you were before, but without the hideous 4x4 look and not worrying about chewing up your front tires. I did this on my last GT and it worked out just fine for daily driving, and is also why I still have my H&Rs still sitting in my garage, still waiting to order C/C Plates.



Eventually you'll want to get the other parts, but you can buy struts & shocks and have them installed without screwing up the alignment. Do the balljoints and bumpsteer kit at the same time, so you'll only have to get it aligned one more time.

Good info here! So alignment after springs and cc plates and again after ball joints and bump steer. Sounds good!
I'm also looking at the H&R SS springs. 2in. in the front and 1.7 out back will give it a sweet stance. I'm running 17-35-315s out back, will I need to roll my fenders? Also how was drivability with the H&Rs? I'm worried about picking up all the dead animals on the road. My girlfriend literally just completely split her bumper in 3 pieces last night after hitting a family of raccoons lol.


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Good info here! So alignment after springs and cc plates and again after ball joints and bump steer. Sounds good!
I'm also looking at the H&R SS springs. 2in. in the front and 1.7 out back will give it a sweet stance. I'm running 17-35-315s out back, will I need to roll my fenders? Also how was drivability with the H&Rs? I'm worried about picking up all the dead animals on the road. My girlfriend literally just completely split her bumper in 3 pieces last night after hitting a family of raccoons lol.


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Yup! That's the order to go with. I've had the H&Rs on my 04 and I loved them. They were firmer, of course, but they still rode pretty decent for the street. When you upgrade your shocks, it'll be just as good, if not better, so long as you get shocks that work well with lowering springs. On my current 2003, I installed Bilstein HDs before anything else, only because the originals were beyond shot.

You will definitely need to roll the fenders, otherwise the outer sidewall will rub for sure, when you hit hard bumps or go up driveways. That being said, once you roll the fenders, all will be fine. Just make sure your exhaust isn't hanging too low (the midpipe, and long tubes, if you have them), along with the catback rubbing the tire. They shouldn't be, but it doesn't hurt to look.

Besides that, you shouldn't have any problems. Just remember you're lower, so be mindful of parking curbs and the angle you take steep driveways. And as for any furry animals, you won't have to worry about them
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YEP, What he said!
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Hello guys, I'm new to the forum and have set of springs that will be here Wednesday. Anyone in the Vacaville California area that wants to help me install them.


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Probably about an hour from me. I'm in Moraga, near Walnut Creek. Unfortunately I don't have much time on my hands lately with school and work.


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You could price out shops. Usually springs arent that bad as far as labor. I had springs, CC plates, shocks, struts, ball joints installed for a labor charge of $400. To me to have a professional shop do it and do it right it was worth it. Drop it off, pick it up the next day lowered, it was nice. Im sure for just springs it would be close to $200 or a little less

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The best price I've found so far is 270 and that doesn't include an alignment, which I would do after the springs settle. They said 3 hours labor. Seems reasonable but I'm thinking it would take more like 2 hours at most with there fancy lifts and air tools.


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What order to lower?

Regardless I dont have 270 extra dollars laying around


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Probably about an hour from me. I'm in Moraga, near Walnut Creek. Unfortunately I don't have much time on my hands lately with school and work.


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Unless you want to wait until December and drive up to Sacramento. Thats when i'm on winter break lol. Can't guarantee there would even be a garage spot available.
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I don't mind driving to sac but I may have a hard time waiting till December lol.


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That seems a little high but not crazy. Im sure their trusty labor manual says 3 hours so thats what they charge. It would take them less than 3 hours with their lift, air tools, and i assume know how. Do you have a good floor jack and jack stands? I didnt and priced out buying the jack and stands, and some tools i didnt have for the job and for decent products it was close to $200 bucks, and that was deal shopping. If you have the tools and space at your disposal then research it, watch videos, and prep as best you can, im sure you can get it done. Have a buddy over for a helping hand (wait until your almost done to present him with the beer and pizza you offer for his services).

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welcome to the forum, I'm in Antioch, but busy as always. I did all four corners myself, first time, pretty easy. If you have a jack and jack stands just do it yourself and save the money. did you get new isolators cuz yours are probably going to be toast?

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