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Old 11-12-2015, 10:03 PM   #1
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A/C delete questions

Been looking for a thread on what to actually delete and all I can find is stuff on older stangs or v6's..

I'm not going with the delete pulley, I'm deleting it all together and using a v6 ribbed tensioner pulley and using a shorter belt..

I'm just curious as what I have to delete as far as a/c goes: lines,condenser,compressor etc.

I would like to leave the heater core so I can have heat


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Old 11-12-2015, 10:26 PM   #2
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Just rip out the compressor, the lines (high and low), the dryer (looks like a cylinder and is close to the heater core usually, the condenser (usually in from of the radiator & anything else that seems to be associated with the ac. You will always have heat as long as the heater core is good and the coolant lines are still hooked up.
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Old 11-15-2015, 01:02 AM   #3
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I took out my condenser, pulley, and compressor and I still had perfect heater! Took out quiet a bit pounds also. No need to buy any pulleys. Just buy shorter belt and put it on with the correct spinning rotation on pulleys.


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Old 11-18-2015, 06:18 PM   #4
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Started on the delete today and made pretty good progress for 2 hours of work and no jack or jack stands..

Got all of the lines out, condenser is out and the accumulator.

I had to pull apart most of the stuff on top, radiator brackets, plastic piece covering the radiator gap up top, coolant reservoir, and pull the radiator, cold air intake and all that stuff..

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Tomorrow I'll crawl underneath and take off the compressor and swap the smooth tensioner pulley for the ribbed v6 pulley and run the shorter belt then put it all back together..

Also why I'm doing this I'm gonna start a wire tuck, everything is basically going in the fender wells, battery moved to the trunk etc.

Should be a pretty spiffy engine bay..

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Old 11-18-2015, 11:32 PM   #5
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That is going to look so good with the ac deleted, egr deleted, and then your wire tuck. Get it all clean up and paint if necessary if you can it will look awesome. Its tough to make the engine bay look good and clean on these cars. Wish i had the resources, tools, free money (damn family, house, daily drivers, etc), to work and improve mine as much as you have been the past few months. Everything is looking good and your car sounds amazing too. Im still very, very slowly piecing together my PI swap (been 7 months now collecting parts here and there) now need start buying my new parts, tb/plenum, injectors, CMS stage 2 cams, valve springs, etc. Ill get there eventually, but i will be having a local Ford performance shop do my install and tune. Probably still about a year out from when i get all the parts and money saved for install and tune. I was quoted $4200 for all that done with them supplying all the parts except the PI heads (they would be going thru the heads though), the steep price is why im gathering slowly and cutting out the jacked up parts prices they quoted me. I figure with the new shop i found ill be able to do it all for around $2800 total for my parts, labor, and dyno tune. Hoping for close to 300 rwhp in the end, ill be happy if im close. Then add a 75-100 shot to it the next year. So im about 2 years out now from my goal

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Old 11-19-2015, 12:19 AM   #6
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You will regret forking the $ out on the cam swap, I wish I wouldn't have paid anyone to do it.. It was simple..

But thanks man I appreciate it.. Crazy to think where this car started when I got it.
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As far as the wire tuck goes tho I have a pdf step by step manual for it if you wanna look into it


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Only had an hour of light today, got the compressor out, old belt off and was able to remove 2 other Pullies along with the compressor..

Swapped the smooth stock tensioner pulley for a ribbed v6 tensioner pulley and got the new shorter belt on.

Crazy the difference it looks already

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Gonna go in there tomorrow with some degreaser and clean it up a lot before I put her back together.. Should be pretty spiffy


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Old 11-19-2015, 11:08 PM   #8
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This is the new belt route if anyone is curious


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Old 11-20-2015, 03:00 PM   #9
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I just got it all buttoned up everything is hooked up, coolants in it, battery is back hooked up but I went to start it and it won't start. it's acts like it's getting electrical power but no fuel the belt is moving but it turn over... Click image for larger version

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Any ideas?


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You hosed the engine bay down?
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:07 PM   #11
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Nope didn't get it wet or anything.. Just pulled the a/c system.. Deleted the compressor and the two idler Pullies and put the shorter belt on.. I followed a delete thread step by step


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Old 11-20-2015, 03:10 PM   #12
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This is the thread http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...te.html#/enter


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I only asked because you had said you were going to degrease it and it was going to be pretty spiffy.

Something is either unplugged or wet.

That's my guess. But the removal of the AC should have zero effect on the car starting.
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Yeah I haven't cleaned anything yet, I'll let it sit over the weekend and try again once it's dried out, it has been raining and my hood was up but that shouldn't make it not start I wouldn't think.. Wasn't raining very hard..


What can't get wet? It doesn't have a distributor obviously. My f150 wouldn't start if the cap got wet but idk what can't get wet on this


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---------- Post added at 03:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:19 PM ----------

Does the belt need to spin a certain speed in order to start?


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I was just thinking the crank sensor is near the compressor, so if that's unplugged would it start? I may have forgot to plug that up


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I would bet you overlooked a sensor you unplugged. Just go back through and push on all sensor connections. One might not be pushed in all the way. Good luck bro


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Maybe belt system isn't turning the correct way?


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I was just thinking the crank sensor is near the compressor, so if that's unplugged would it start? I may have forgot to plug that up


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It wouldn't start if that was the case. I had to know where it's at to run
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Figured out he issue. When I pulled the compressor I yanked the the crank sensor out, and it broke the plastic piece that plugs into it..
I still have the 2 wires that went into the plug and I was able to plug those into the sensor and it ran fine, my only concern is them coming unplugged while I'm goin down the road..

Is that pigtail something a parts store would carry? Or is that a salvage yard deal?


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I have had success with a "pick a part" for something like that. Also you can look on eBay or just online in general for replacement pig tails with the correct connector on it. Then just swap out the connector or solder the new one on. You def don't want that thing shutting down on you while driving. That could get hairy.
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Here is what I found with a quick search. Now I know it says it fits a 1996, but if it's a 2 wire it's probably the same. Not sure, I've never owned a new edge or SN95

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How about calling them and asking or even call lmr late model restoration

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