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Old 08-08-2016, 09:24 PM   #526
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Anybody feel like getting bent over on the price of this thing? http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/5721530848.html
That is ridiculous! I know I dont write the best but come on can you trust a CL listing where the dude doesnt even know how to spell brakes or exhaust correctly. CL ads crack me up. I could never buy a car from someone who cant even properly use words right or spell. Not even getting into the fact that he has totally unrealistic expectations on his price. Just because you have 9k or more into with the price of the car doesnt make it more valuable to anyone else, that only works on a few cars. Im sure its a nice car but come on! Tops I would say 7k and thats if the body, interior are mint and everything works as it should with quality craftsmanship. Im sorry but this guy is a moron. It would be like me trying to sell my 96 for 10k because if I factor in every single expense for the car it would equal that or more. Maybe he should up the price for the fuel he consumed while driving the car too!

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It sucks when see one of your old cars molested and passed around like a joint. Maybe one day you'll get her back.
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That is ridiculous! I know I dont write the best but come on can you trust a CL listing where the dude doesnt even know how to spell brakes or exhaust correctly. CL ads crack me up. I could never buy a car from someone who cant even properly use words right or spell. Not even getting into the fact that he has totally unrealistic expectations on his price. Just because you have 9k or more into with the price of the car doesnt make it more valuable to anyone else, that only works on a few cars. Im sure its a nice car but come on! Tops I would say 7k and thats if the body, interior are mint and everything works as it should with quality craftsmanship. Im sorry but this guy is a moron. It would be like me trying to sell my 96 for 10k because if I factor in every single expense for the car it would equal that or more. Maybe he should up the price for the fuel he consumed while driving the car too!

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It sucks when see one of your old cars molested and passed around like a joint. Maybe one day you'll get her back.
I don't want her back. It's been through 3 owners in 1.5 years and I'm sure it hasn't been taken care of.
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So I haven't made any further progress on pulling the engine apart, I'm stuck working 60hr weeks for the foreseeable future and that's making it tough to get work done on the car/motor. However I have begun to make a rough plan on what I want out of my motor and I have a few questions.

My goals are:
- 7k+ redline
- 600whp
- close to stock driveability

My questions are:
1. Will the stock cams support 7k rpms with aftermarket springs? I'm not a big fan of how the 4.6 sounds with some lope to it and would prefer a nice smooth idle.
2. Can the 3650 handle revving/shifting at that sort of RPM band?
3. Will my oil pump need changed out for a better flowing pump?
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1.Consider having a set of cams ground to your specifications. Someone can probably grind a turbo cam that is not too lopey.
2.I'm not sure, but you will find out!
3.I would upgrade the oil pump. I believe that there is some risk of the gears breaking at high RPM.
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I need to start watching videos on youtube to see how various cam setups sound. I figured oil pump gears would need done seeing as coyotes need an upgrade to spin up to 8k. Will I run into oiling issues at low rpm by putting a high volume oil pump on?
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It shouldn't be a problem.
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Have any of you guys heard of RPM rods before?
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Never heard of them.

Are they made in 'merica, forged from the bones of bald eagle carcasses?
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Google told me that they are Chinese made like Scat and Eagle. I believe all their products come with a disclaimer that no bald eagles were harmed in the making of their rods
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3650 doesn't really like to shift past 6k. At least mine doesn't. Although the Machs go to 6800 with it, so idk. But at 600 you would need a built trans anyway.


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Mine didn't have a problem shifting at 6200 and seemed to like flat foot shifting for the most part. I would like to end up in a T56, but if I can get some mileage out of the 3650 then I would be quite happy with that.
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Alright time for an update.

I've been getting quite a bad case of blue balls lately and want to get the car up and running while I build the motor. I want to do a NPI shortblock with my PI heads and intake and plan on buying an intercooler kit. I found a motor on craigslist and wanted to get a second opinion before hopping on it. http://cosprings.craigslist.org/pts/5705958797.html obviously I'm not gonna pay that much for a NPI motor, but I wasn't sure if I could use those exhaust manifolds or not. I'd love to hear everybody's thoughts on it.
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That with pi heads n cams!

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Thays what I was thinking of doing. I'm just curious if there are any "gotchas" with the super early 4.6's
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What's the benefit of a NPI short block vs a PI short block.
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What's the benefit of a NPI short block vs a PI short block.

NPI block with PI heads creates a higher compression ratio, equals more power!..


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What he said^ if I remember right it should put me at a 10.5:1 compression ratio
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Isn't 10.5:1 high for boosted engines?
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Isn't 10.5:1 high for boosted engines?
It can be, but motors like coyotes prove that you can still have a reliable boosted him compression motor. I'm not planning on running large amounts of boost so 10.5 should be fine
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It can be, but motors like coyotes prove that you can still have a reliable boosted him compression motor. I'm not planning on running large amounts of boost so 10.5 should be fine

That should put you at if not over 500hp!..


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Possibly. I'm realistically shooting for 450whp through an intercooler
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Welcome to the family! Just bought one myself! Good luck on the build!
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Welcome to the family! Just bought one myself! Good luck on the build!
Post up some pictures!
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It can be, but motors like coyotes prove that you can still have a reliable boosted him compression motor. I'm not planning on running large amounts of boost so 10.5 should be fine
A lot of Coyote owners supercharge their NA engines, but keep this in mind... When Ford supercharges a Coyote, they lower the compression ratio to 9:1.

I'm not sure what you are referring to when you asked about the exhaust manifolds. That link that you posted isn't working for me.
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A lot of Coyote owners supercharge their NA engines, but keep this in mind... When Ford supercharges a Coyote, they lower the compression ratio to 9:1.

I'm not sure what you are referring to when you asked about the exhaust manifolds. That link that you posted isn't working for me.
When I build my motor it will probably be stock PI compression, for the used motor 10.5 should be fine.

The link is of a 4.6 out of a 94 Crown Vic. It comes with the factory exhaust manifolds on it, but I don't know if those are the same as the mustang manifolds.
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You will be swapping out the heads for PI though, right?
You can just use your existing manifolds.
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Yes I'll be swapping my heads on. I sold off the FRPP manifolds and my midpipe in preparation for a turbo, but got impatient and changed my mind. So now I'm stuck searching for new maniolds and a midpipe
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The seller of that NPI motor isn't dropping below $500, however I did find a Teksid long block for $375. Only down side is the seller thinks it has some rod knock.
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Another option would be to put a set of rods and pistons in your existing engine and reinstall it. Then find a good Teksid block, and a forged crankshaft, and build that engine for crazy turbo power.
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Another option would be to put a set of rods and pistons in your existing engine and reinstall it. Then find a good Teksid block, and a forged crankshaft, and build that engine for crazy turbo power.
Yeah that's always a possibility. I've got this set of rods and pistons, they're .020 Manley pistons on RPM rods. The only issue is the pistons have some knocks and I'm not sure how use able they would be.
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That's a shame.
You might take them to a reputable machine shop and see what they have to say about those nicks and dings.
Maybe they could be cleaned up and used again?
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I've thought about it, it can't hurt to try at least. I just haven't had the time to send them out.
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holy mother of sweet baby jesus that under the hood pic gives me chills lol love the turbo need one for my bullitt
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holy mother of sweet baby jesus that under the hood pic gives me chills lol love the turbo need one for my bullitt
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