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Old 12-14-2015, 04:06 PM   #141
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Most likely took it in as a trade in


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Old 12-14-2015, 06:32 PM   #142
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You never can tell with cars like this. Someone might have built the drivetrain, broke in the engine, did a few pulls, then for whatever reason, lost interest in the project and never got to the suspension.
The only way to really get a good idea of the condition of the car is to go and have a close look at it.
Assuming that is the case, and the car has not been abused, what do you guys think that it would cost to set up the suspension to be able to take that kind of horsepower?
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Old 12-14-2015, 06:34 PM   #143
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What would need to be done? He said it has new shocks and springs


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Old 12-14-2015, 06:40 PM   #144
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Reinforce the torque boxes, aftermarket rear control arms, sub-frame connectors, etc.
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Old 12-14-2015, 06:47 PM   #145
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Well hopefully it has subframe connectors thats one of the first things anyone should do


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Although everyone has been talking about the rear...........subframe connectors...welded in not just bolted in........upper and lower control arms, boxed torque boxes....welded in by someone who knows what they are trying to accomplish....at least C clip eliminators and 31 spline axles...some "REALLY" good brakes up front and out back also.......aftermarket upper and lower front control arms and a lightweight K member...........good driveshaft and driveline hoop........and I could go on and on. This could be the reason it's being sold for the price..........
I wonder if the person who built the car just ran out of money and thought he would maybe do the suspension later. Spending $30k just at this one shop sounds a little over the top to me.........like was said, the only way to make a good determination is to look at in person and get it up on a lift..................then take it for a "quick" drive............
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Old 12-14-2015, 07:09 PM   #147
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Yeah to bad its so far away from me, i asked him if i could talk to the owner who built it and im now just waiting for an email back


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Old 12-14-2015, 07:38 PM   #148
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The salesman said that it doesnt have subframe connectors or control arms


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Old 12-14-2015, 07:53 PM   #149
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well think of it this way. Point out the obvious. Missing rollcage? no 31 spline axles/safety loop? no subframes? no reinforced torque boxes? The thing is a rolling death trap, the frame is obviously going to be tweaked. offer him 12,500 for it. Get it home, strip the car down to rolling chassis. Sell the motor, turbo kit, fuel system for 10k, piece out some of the other goodies for another couple k, then sell the notch as a rolling chassis for 3500 and you'll come out 5k ahead at least in parts /shrug
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Old 12-14-2015, 08:15 PM   #150
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Since im in canada it would be probably 18k to get the car here after the exchange rate


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So after christmas im going to go look at the built 351 foxbody for 6500


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Well, I did some research on LRS Performance and I can't find any bad reviews. As a matter of fact, the owner of the shop is considered to be one of the best boosted Ford tuners in that part of the country. The only reservations that some of his customers seem to have, is that he does his tuning on the street, rather than a dyno. He apparently hasn't wrecked any cars yet, and all of his customers were pleased with the end result.
This explains the marked up prices on the parts and the "higher than average" labor costs.The guy apparently takes his time, doesn't take any shortcuts, and turns out good work. People will gladly pay for that.

The owner of that Fox probably ran out of money to do the suspension. He definitely wasn't originally intending to cut any corners on that build though.
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Well, I did some research on LRS Performance and I can't find any bad reviews. As a matter of fact, the owner of the shop is considered to be one of the best boosted Ford tuners in that part of the country. The only reservations that some of his customers seem to have, is that he does his tuning on the street, rather than a dyno. He apparently hasn't wrecked any cars yet, and all of his customers were pleased with the end result.

This explains the marked up prices on the parts and the "higher than average" labor costs.The guy apparently takes his time, doesn't take any shortcuts, and turns out good work. People will gladly pay for that.



The owner of that Fox probably ran out of money to do the suspension. He definitely wasn't originally intending to cut any corners on that build though.

Would it still be worth it though?


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Would it still be worth it though?


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That's difficult to answer without seeing the car in person. And, in my opinion, not for $16,000.
But if the car was in good condition, and the price negotiable... Maybe.
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Old 12-14-2015, 08:37 PM   #154
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Well if i go right after christmas i wouldnt be paying the whole 15,800. I would put a dosn payment of like 4 grand down and paying it off. Would still probably offer him like 12,000. And i just emailed the shop that did it


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What you need is for someone knowledgeable from this forum, who lives in Chicago, to volunteer to go take a look at it and give you an unbiased report on its condition.
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That would be the best idea


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Old 12-14-2015, 09:03 PM   #157
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How does he get those wheels and tires in the back? Even if i dont get that foxbody i will have one by summer and i want 315 on the back. How is that possible?


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The salesman said that it doesnt have subframe connectors or control arms


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In the pictures something is hanging down which look like "lift bars" which the lower springs attach to..........can you get him to take some pictures of underneath the car.......even if he uses a cell phone and takes 3 or 4 pictures infront of the rear tires and behind on each side.
Buying a car and parting it out can take a lot of time and with a motor like that and you knowing very little about it.............I doubt you could get $10k for it. As I said earlier if the body was tweaked you would see uneven gaps between the front fenders and the doors.......also the bottom of the doors would show a different gap...........just a guess.
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How does he get those wheels and tires in the back? Even if i dont get that foxbody i will have one by summer and i want 315 on the back. How is that possible?


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Buying wheels with the right offset will get you close....assuming they wouldn't have to be special made.........also it looks like he has cut part of the inner fender away....at least it looks like that in the picture. It also looks as though he has planted his right foot hard enough to bring the rear of the body....at the fender well....on top of the tire....if you look close at the rear tire you can see the cut the body made in the tire.........It would help to just see some pictures of the underneath of the car in the rear end area.......that would tell a lot.
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So just simple fender rolling wouldnt make 315 fit?


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So just simple fender rolling wouldnt make 315 fit?


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It looks like he had to cut the inner fender.........although rolling may get you close, it's all about wheel offset and suspension ride height.
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Okay because i had 255 on my old foxbody and it wasnt big enough i seemed


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Okay because i had 255 on my old foxbody and it wasnt big enough i seemed


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When I had my 86 Mercury Capri I ran 245/60/15 on the stock aluminum wheels. The 225's came stock and were just too small. I could have gone 245/40/18 but at the time the 18's were $500 a piece.....that was in 1987 or 88. I loved the 5spd and 5.0l........first car I pushed to 140mph. See it in my pictures.........had a great license plate at the time.............
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If i do get the 351 foxbody instead of the turbo one i want to put 315 on the back


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Was that the one that was close to me.........I'd be willing to look at it for you.
Anything can be accomplished on the Fox Body.....just takes some thought, the right tire/wheel combination and $$$$
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Yeah it is in portland


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The add says Vancouver, WA and that's where the phone number is........if you want I could give him a call and try and arrange a time to look at it...........weekends are going to be pretty full for me until after the new year...........or you could call him and tell I'd come out and scope it out..........just let me know.
I'm very skeptical that it's a 500 hp motor and unless he has proof. Do you have to go through DEQ up there as the car is over 25 years old?
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Im not sure what id have to go through to get it in canada, and if you want to go look at it id appreciate it alot! After the new year would be fine because i wouldnt get out there until then anyways


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Im not sure what id have to go through to get it in canada, and if you want to go look at it id appreciate it alot! After the new year would be fine because i wouldnt get out there until then anyways


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Ok, I will try and make contact with the person and take it from there.
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Thank you! I need someone who knows more than i do when im getting a non stock 5.0, i really appreciate it


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Thank you! I need someone who knows more than i do when im getting a non stock 5.0, i really appreciate it


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No problem....I enjoy looking at cars and a I've done appraisers as a hobby for over 25 years.........still do on occasion if expenses are paid.
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Cant wait to see what you think about it


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I wonder how much hp it would take to take on a hellcat or 13-14 gt500


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I wonder how much hp it would take to take on a hellcat or 13-14 gt500


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You could beat a hellcat in a Prius as long as the other driver puts it in the ditch first


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You could beat a hellcat in a Prius as long as the other driver puts it in the ditch first


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That is true


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