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Old 12-28-2015, 10:31 AM   #1
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Abs causing car to bog?

I just got new wheels and tires, weld pro stars, 15x10 in the back and 15x3.75 in the front..

Sometimes, (mostly at highway speeds) the abs light will come on, causing my traction control to turn off..

Then once I stop and start it back up or slow down the light will go off but the car will be really doggy under 20-30 mph then it's fine once I'm going faster than that.

What is causing that?


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After this occurs, and the ABS light turns off, have you tried turning off the TC and seeing if the bogging still happens?
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No I'll have to try that next time I get a decent day to take it out before the actual winter weather comes along


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If your actual tire diameter difference between the front and the back is off by too much you can trip the ABS which is my guess. What diameters are you at front and back?
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15x10 in the back 15x3.75 in the front


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Ok... But what is the actual tire diameter? That tells me nothing.

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Sorry didn't see "tire" misread your post I'll double check when j get back home


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Ok... But what is the actual tire diameter? That tells me nothing.

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Sorry didn't see "tire" misread your post I'll double check when j get back home


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You are not ALLOWED to make mistakes on here!! Didnt you know that!!???? JK. But that probably is the issue i would bet. Had this happen on a Jeep Liberty once, fronts were about a 1/4" taller in the front than the rear (same tire size different manufacturer), it tripped the ABS a couple times and also made the trans feel at times like it was slipping. Driveshaft wasnt lined up correctly from that small amount and caused the slipping feeling here and there. Also like i said, a couple times it made my ABS light up too. Took a bit to figure out what it was at the time, thought the trans was going.

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You are not ALLOWED to make mistakes on here!! Didnt you know that!!???? JK. But that probably is the issue i would bet. Had this happen on a Jeep Liberty once, fronts were about a 1/4" taller in the front than the rear (same tire size different manufacturer), it tripped the ABS a couple times and also made the trans feel at times like it was slipping. Driveshaft wasnt lined up correctly from that small amount and caused the slipping feeling here and there. Also like i said, a couple times it made my ABS light up too. Took a bit to figure out what it was at the time, thought the trans was going.

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I have not experienced ABS issues with a half inch tire diameter difference but it might just depend on the car. Its not really supposed to start to matter until you near the 1" difference range and even then I have heard of ppl getting away with it.

You can always just disable and remove all the ABS components. I'm not a huge fan of it anyway and will probably be trashing mine for a multitude of reasons.
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My abs light is always on with my drag setup. No issues with sluggish feel.

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Old 12-31-2015, 10:53 AM   #12
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Tires up front are 165/80/15's and rear are 275/60/15's


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Your front tires are spinning at 794.6 rev/mile compared to your rear tire spinning at 720.9 rev/mile. Overall diameter of front vs rear is 25.4 inches in the front vs 28 inches in the rear. So if you are going 80 mph your front might be going 80 but your rear tires want to go at 88. Your ABS pump must be going out of it's mind.
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Old 01-01-2016, 07:51 AM   #14
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Found info in this site https://tiresize.com/calculator/
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Old 01-01-2016, 12:19 PM   #15
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So would a 17" wheel up front and taller tire help? I don't think j could find a taller front tire for that wheel size


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Try using this web site https://tiresize.com/calculator/ you can play with tire numbers and combinations to find the right fit for you.
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I wasn't going to do his homework for him after asking him how tall his rear and front tires were like 3 times lol. Not hard using tirerack or any other calculator where you punch in your tire specs and get the diameter.

Anyway, yeah if he is over 2" difference in diameter... well yeah no **** that'll make your ABS freak out. This is one of the main things to consider when buying big/littles with ABS. I'd just delete the ABS with a skinny setup up front anyway. There are places that make delete blocks or just make your own delete lines.
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I found a company that makes delete blocks that don't require any flaring of the lines or anything..

So I guess I'll just delete the ABS since I don't ever drive the car in bad weather and it's pretty much strictly a drag car and some weekend cruising to shows and meets..

And I'll pull the bulb for the ABS in the dash


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Yeah these guys

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I'd recommend deleting your ABS anyway with skinnies up front even if there wasn't any issue.
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Sounds like a plan plus getting that abs out of the way allows more room for piping for my on3 kit


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I may have to pull mine out of necessity due to the intercooler piping for my Paxton. We shall see.
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Plus it drops like 13 lbs off the front end.

Question tho, is the abs box up by the front of the car all that's involved and needs to be pulled or is there more you can pull with it


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That's really all you need to do. You can delete all the sensors in the wheels to clean that up too. IIRC you need to pull the bulb out of the cluster because even a tuner won't get it to turn off. I dont THINK you will throw any codes that would keep the car from passing inspection but that might be something to consider. I know in NJ all we have is emissions and a fuel cap test but some states are cray.
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I'll pull the sensors as well then, and I planned on pulling the bulb, and as for the inspection I have my inspectors license so it'll pass lmao


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