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Old 02-23-2016, 11:41 AM   #106
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Im leaning towards 17s then I go back to 18s. It will most likely come down the deal that is out there or even if I find something lightly used. Ill let the financial situation decide for me, sometimes that helps to make up your mind real quick

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Im leaning towards 17s then I go back to 18s. It will most likely come down the deal that is out there or even if I find something lightly used. Ill let the financial situation decide for me, sometimes that helps to make up your mind real quick

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Financial situation there is no contest between the 2. Unless you find a mint set of 18s with good rubber on them that you KNOW is in good shape. And even then the first time you have to get new tires for it you'll pay for just the tires about as much as a complete rim/tire combo for 17s.
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Financial situation there is no contest between the 2. Unless you find a mint set of 18s with good rubber on them that you KNOW is in good shape. And even then the first time you have to get new tires for it you'll pay for just the tires about as much as a complete rim/tire combo for 17s.
Thats true. Its hard to stay under $750 or so shopping for 18" tires really.

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I did it with the BFG Comp 2s when they were relatively new. I think I paid $130 per tire up front and $170 per tire out back. And then $550 shipped for the rims. $80 for the mount/balance and $50 shipping from Tirerack. So like $1200-$1300 all said and done which is CHEAP for 18s with a legit set of rubber that isn't Sumis. But those Comp 2s are way more now.

Although for as much bashing as we do on the Sumis, apparently the HTRZ III or whatever they are called are not half bad. Still not going to hold a candle to a much cheaper 315 wide Mickey Street Comp in 17" tho.
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It is amazing how such a simple mod will change the front of these cars. They basically did a "delete" with the pre 99 cars, don't know why they deviated in 99.

Unless you are absolutely in love with 18's, I would stick with 17's. More tire options, in some cases better tire options, and overall cheaper. You can get a nice sticky 315/35/17 for around $200. Good luck finding a decent 295/35/18 for that price let alone a 305 or 315. Trust me I know.

I personally don't like tons of sidewall on 17's, but with the right aspect ratio (given proper width) and a drop they can still look damn good. I run 245/45 Sumi's on 17x9" Bullitts on my 03 with a 2" drop and I have had numerous mustang guys ask if they are 18's.

I bought the satin gunmetal Rovos Durbans for the Mach. All together for 18x9/18x10.5's, Nitto 275/35 NT555's and 295/35 NT05's = $1900. And that was with Black Friday discounts.

They look amazing and aren't the typical Saleen or Bullitt which is what I wanted, but I could've done a full set of 17's with tires for almost half. I think Scotty picked up a full set of 17" wheels/tires from AM around the same time for ~$1100.

FR500's look sick on a lowered silver new edge. I always liked the GT4 wheels too but I believe they are discontinued.
You mentioned you used the SR springs on your Mach, how do you like them? I was thinking of these and no isos, approx 1.75" drop? I havent seen or read any horror stories on them, everything on them seems to be positive ive found

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I did it with the BFG Comp 2s when they were relatively new. I think I paid $130 per tire up front and $170 per tire out back. And then $550 shipped for the rims. $80 for the mount/balance and $50 shipping from Tirerack. So like $1200-$1300 all said and done which is CHEAP for 18s with a legit set of rubber that isn't Sumis. But those Comp 2s are way more now.

Although for as much bashing as we do on the Sumis, apparently the HTRZ III or whatever they are called are not half bad. Still not going to hold a candle to a much cheaper 315 wide Mickey Street Comp in 17" tho.
The Sumis arent bad from the reviews I have read. The HTR Z would be fine for me Im sure. Im not going to be drag racing, or auto xing anytime soon with either of my cars. Maybe an occasional drag race day with some friends but thats waaaaay off in the future for now.

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Well for the Comp 2s BFG is running a special right now on the 245/40/18s for $132 per tire so you can stick them up front with the 275/35/18s out back for $175 per tire. That's sub $650 shipped for tires. If you can get some rims for $550 shipped from AM and a mount/balance locally.... There is your $1200 set of 18s with good wheels and tires.


Or just get the AM combo with Sumis lol.


But performance wise... 17s. And this is me doing a complete 180 from even recently when I was an 18 bandwagoner. There is just literally no reason to have them minus looks.
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You mentioned you used the SR springs on your Mach, how do you like them? I was thinking of these and no isos, approx 1.75" drop? I havent seen or read any horror stories on them, everything on them seems to be positive ive found

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Yes, I currently have that exact setup. The drop is ~1.6-1.7" all the way around. Definitely less gap than factory but no too much to cause issues on roads/steep entry ways etc. Also the ride is still smooth with the factory Tokicos. I did get an alignment and was able to get back into spec without new CC plates.
The SR springs are one of the better SR made products. They drop the advertised amount and are a great option for someone looking for a mild drop with improved spring characteristics.

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The Sumis arent bad from the reviews I have read. The HTR Z would be fine for me Im sure. Im not going to be drag racing, or auto xing anytime soon with either of my cars. Maybe an occasional drag race day with some friends but thats waaaaay off in the future for now.

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I have the HTR Z's on my 03. 245/45/17 up front and 315/35/17 out back. Great tire for a cruiser. I have at least 40K miles on those tires. They will need to be replaced next season so I expect around 50k before I pull them. Not my first nor 2nd or 3rd choice for traction, but for normal use they are great for the price. Not terribly loud either with good tread depth. Now that they are getting worn they are slightly louder.

If you only plan on the occasional track day I'd pick up a cheap set of 17x10.5's around black friday and throw on as set of radials.
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Yes, I currently have that exact setup. The drop is ~1.6-1.7" all the way around. Definitely less gap than factory but no too much to cause issues on roads/steep entry ways etc. Also the ride is still smooth with the factory Tokicos. I did get an alignment and was able to get back into spec without new CC plates.
The SR springs are one of the better SR made products. They drop the advertised amount and are a great option for someone looking for a mild drop with improved spring characteristics.



I have the HTR Z's on my 03. 245/45/17 up front and 315/35/17 out back. Great tire for a cruiser. I have at least 40K miles on those tires. They will need to be replaced next season so I expect around 50k before I pull them. Not my first nor 2nd or 3rd choice for traction, but for normal use they are great for the price. Not terribly loud either with good tread depth. Now that they are getting worn they are slightly louder.

If you only plan on the occasional track day I'd pick up a cheap set of 17x10.5's around black friday and throw on as set of radials.
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I think I will go the SR route with no isos and wrap them in heavy duty elec tape or Ive seen a thin bike tire intertube used too before to keep it thinner but add some anti squeak. Like Sonicpony said with his Mach he didnt need CC plates to get fairly close or back into spec with alignment. If I do then I do and Ill be out 50 bucks for abother alignment after I put the CC plates on. I will see how these new springs/shocks hold up and go from there, maybe upgrade them if need be next season. But if its somewhat of a "stock" feel with a little inprovement from the springs Ill be happy since I wont be hitting any road courses. Just back and forth to work about 3 days a week in the summer.

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Well for the Comp 2s BFG is running a special right now on the 245/40/18s for $132 per tire so you can stick them up front with the 275/35/18s out back for $175 per tire. That's sub $650 shipped for tires. If you can get some rims for $550 shipped from AM and a mount/balance locally.... There is your $1200 set of 18s with good wheels and tires.


Or just get the AM combo with Sumis lol.


But performance wise... 17s. And this is me doing a complete 180 from even recently when I was an 18 bandwagoner. There is just literally no reason to have them minus looks.
Wow thats some good pricing. I will have to see how long the sale lasts, if it goes until the end of the month when I get my bonus check, then Ill scoop a set up. If not then Ill get a cheaper set and go 17s and get the wheels and tires then instead.

Thanks for the info Scotty, I really appreciate it!!

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I meant the end of March when I said month, now thinking about that statement I realize its the end of Feb now, haha

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Got my grill delete today, was a little late, was supposed to be here Thurs last week but came today. If it had been here on time it was an abnormal 60 out on Sunday and would have been perfect to put it on. Getting a snow storm starting right now and colder temps so it wont happen soon.

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I think I will go the SR route with no isos and wrap them in heavy duty elec tape or Ive seen a thin bike tire intertube used too before to keep it thinner but add some anti squeak. Like Sonicpony said with his Mach he didnt need CC plates to get fairly close or back into spec with alignment. If I do then I do and Ill be out 50 bucks for abother alignment after I put the CC plates on. I will see how these new springs/shocks hold up and go from there, maybe upgrade them if need be next season. But if its somewhat of a "stock" feel with a little inprovement from the springs Ill be happy since I wont be hitting any road courses. Just back and forth to work about 3 days a week in the summer.

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Every car is different with how it reacts to an alignment. My car didn't need the plates to get back to stock specs, but your car might just fall short. You don't know till you go in for the alignment. Like you said, if it falls in, you're good to go, if not you're out whatever the first alignment cost is.
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Every car is different with how it reacts to an alignment. My car didn't need the plates to get back to stock specs, but your car might just fall short. You don't know till you go in for the alignment. Like you said, if it falls in, you're good to go, if not you're out whatever the first alignment cost is.
Thats true I have read that and seen it before. My 96 didnt really need the CC plates but I already had them on it. The tech said he could have got it damn close if not right on without them typically.

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Guy on Craigslist has Eibach Sportlines for $200, but he will take $175 he says. Their brand new in the box so not used at all. Its about $65-70 cheaper than ordering them, but I wasnt really considering the Eibachs, maybe I should and offer him $150. I dont think their gonna sell real quick.

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I would for sure. Just make sure they are the exact ones you want.
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I would for sure. Just make sure they are the exact ones you want.
Yeah I will match up the model numbers, there in the box so shouldnt be too hard. I will give it a few days then low ball him, lol

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Well, kind of got my bonus funds figured out now somewhat. Talked to my wife and she made a deal with me (for me), selfish reasons it turns out but it benefits me nonetheless. I think I will have close to $2k of my bonus money I can set aside for mods, and still make the savings accounts happy. I want to get wheels/tires (leaning towards the FR500s in Anthracite or MMDs in charcoal more $$$ tho), lowering springs (possibly SR, H&R, or some Eibachs I found on CL locally new in box Sportlines), CC plates if I go H&R SS or Eibach Sportlines, off road mid H pipe (still hoping to find a slightly used one, if not Ive been researching the Pypes H pipe-seems to have good reviews), chin spoiler, already have the grill delete, and maybe a new headunit for the stereo. The chin is I think an absolute must but the headunit may be the odd mod out budget wise. Anyway, if I get creative and find some deals I think I can do it for the $2k, especially if I go with the SR springs and dont have to get CC plates right away if they can get close to spec that is. From forum members (sonicpony03) I think I may have a shot at the alignment without CC plates if I go SR and leave out the isolators, it will probably be low enough to look good with the staggered wheels. Plus I plan on driving this one more than my other in season so I may want to be more around the 1.5"-1.6" lowered amount vs the almost 2" from the other 2 mentioned.

Sorry I get stuck on one subject too long, to indecisive at times with this stuff. Want to spend wisely, lol.

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Just ordered these frivolously tonight! Could not pass up the price and sleep on this one! Got the 18x9, 18x10 set for $281 shipped with the forum discount. Cant believe they were this cheap. I know AM has done this before but I always missed it by like 6 mths. Wanted charcoal for the silver 03 but silver will do the trick for me. If I dont like them on the silver, Ill put them on my laser red 96 and see how they look! Thanks soccer and scotty for posting about this sale, I wouldnt have known otherwise. Saved me over $500!!

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Those should look pretty good. I've been eyeing that sale myself but haven't decided for sure if I want to buy anpther set of wheels. I may try to pick up a set of saleens
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Its a great sale. I was leaning towards the anthracite FRs but liked the MMDs but they were too expensive for my budget.

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I'm thinking about these actually. The only issue I'm having is trying to figure out if they will clear my rear brakes.
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I like those for drag wheels will look TUFF on your Bullit.

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I was looking at Tirerack and they have good prices on the Sumi HTR II and III. These will be fine for me as far as what I will be doing with the car and budget friendly. Possibly have new 18" wheels with new tires for a little over 800 or less if I go with the HTR IIs.

I was wondering if I could go with the 275 40 18s on all 4 wheels, I know they will fit on the fronts fine, but the backs sre 10"? I have 275 40 17s on my 17x10 Bullit wheels on my 96 and they fit fine for me, a little stretchded but look good. If I could use all the same size at a 275 40 18, that would be cool, give me a little taller sidewall at 26.7" tall vs 25.9 on the 285 35 18 tires, and still not look like a balloon with too much side wall. If so I can get 4 HTR IIs in the 275 40 18 size for $439 on Tirerack. If I go with the 275 35 18, and 285 35 18 its not that much more either I guess.

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I was looking at Tirerack and they have good prices on the Sumi HTR II and III. These will be fine for me as far as what I will be doing with the car and budget friendly. Possibly have new 18" wheels with new tires for a little over 800 or less if I go with the HTR IIs.

I was wondering if I could go with the 275 40 18s on all 4 wheels, I know they will fit on the fronts fine, but the backs sre 10"? I have 275 40 17s on my 17x10 Bullit wheels on my 96 and they fit fine for me, a little stretchded but look good. If I could use all the same size at a 275 40 18, that would be cool, give me a little taller sidewall at 26.7" tall vs 25.9 on the 285 35 18 tires, and still not look like a balloon with too much side wall. If so I can get 4 HTR IIs in the 275 40 18 size for $439 on Tirerack. If I go with the 275 35 18, and 285 35 18 its not that much more either I guess.

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I just realized we had the same conversation span 3 threads. I'm currently running 475/40R18s up front and 285/40R18s in rear on mine without an issue other than scrubbing the fender liner on full lock. Sumitomos tend to run narrow so I think a 275 will look a little stretched on the 10" wheels, but it shouldn't be too bad. You'll need a tuner to correct your speedometer though.
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I ran 275 40 18 on the rear just fine. No way in hell they would clear up front at 26.7" tall tho. Not on a lowered car anyway.

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Mine actually clear just fine up front. I've got just enough camber in to avoid hitting the fender.
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My 2 rear 18x10 wheels came today, and just like my luck they are the wrong color! Their flat black, which I like too, but I want to stick with the silver. I know AM will take care of it as they always do but I think silver is out of stock now. Maybe they will ship me the gun metal ones for my troubles lol, thats the ones I wanted over the silver but they were sold out and more money.

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Mine actually clear just fine up front. I've got just enough camber in to avoid hitting the fender.
I remember you saying that, thats why I was thinking of them. I liked the height you used on your tire set up.

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So if I go with a 275 35 18 up front and a 285 35 18 out back, my total wheel and tire set up will be $882 before install. So roughly $940 mounted, balanced, and installed. Not bad at all.

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I think ive decided on my tire set up possibly, finanly. Gonna get a 265 40 18 up front for the 18x9s, and get 275 40 18s for the rear. Ill go with something that runs a little wider like the BFGs Sport Comp 2s in the rear on the 10s, they are 10.7" tread width according to Tirerack, but I know Ive seen it where they measure closer to 11" wide. Those will be wide enough for the rears for me. I may even do a little more research and see if there are other options too. Im gonna research the Sumis in a 275 40 18 as well, some say they will fit fine and others say they wont be wide enough. On my 96 I have 275 40 17s on my 17x10 rears and they fit fine, their made by Nexen which are actually decent tires and have served me well for 4 yrs. They are ever so slightly stretched, not to where the sidewall is not straight or angled or anything. Actually I like the way they look being just a touch stretched, if it looks about like this with the Sumis on the new wheels I would be happy and their about $110 per tire. The 265 40 18s are 26.3" tall so they should be fine when lowered, the 275 40 18s will be 26.7" tall and will work well. The rears will be just slightly taller than the front by less than 1/2", and the sidewall size is pretty close too, a little thicker sidewall in the rear, but thats where I would want it anyway.

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Sumis 275s will not be wide enough on a 10" rim.

Here is a pic of my 98 with those exact BFG Comp 2s on a 18x10 rim.



As you can see, the fit is perfect. They are damn near as wide as the Nitto 315s they replaced. I'd say they are more like a 295 or even a 305 for "normal" sizing.
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