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Old 01-25-2016, 10:42 PM   #71
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Just got offered quite a deal.. Guy said he would trade me straight across my turbo kit for his new in the box F1 procharger kit..

What's the better option? I want to keep my comp 270 cams too so which will behave better with those cams?

I figured the procharger would be easier just because I could keep my exhaust as is, instead of forward facing headers with the on3


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Me personally I would just stay with the turbo.


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That's what I'm thinking to I mean I'm already pretty invested with it all..

My only concern with the turbo set up is how I can use those forward facing headers and fab exhaust up to where I can have bumper exit cut outs and full exhaust too


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It takes some thinking but it can be done. I'm sure there are posts on the Internet on how to do it and where to run it. Relocating the battery to the trunk will give you all that room and weight shift.


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I would stick with the On3 as well, unless you want to go superchargered. But sticking to your plan that you have mapped out already and planned for seems like the best bet. I would be intrigued also with that trade especially if you know you can leave your exhaust, less money and less labor..but it probably wont satisfy what you wanted to begin with in the end with the turbo set up. Having the bumper cut outs with the option of rear exhaust would be more unique as well.

Its seems in the past few months your car has been taken apart and put back together like 3 times, lol. In the end of this you will know every trick, nook, issue bolts, etc. Awesome learning experience, wish I had the guts to do it, and the tools, lift, etc ,etc, etc. Haha.

With all these experiences with this car and your truck you should eventually one day open your own performance oriented garage.

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Actually that's exactly what I'm going to school just so I can have ASE certifications to hang on the wall and then open my own performance shop have several bays, each kind of dedicated to specific things and then a dyno.

But that's a few years down the road though

But yeah no joke I've tore this car down a lot but that's how I taught myself because I did the same thing with my truck bought it second owner tore down painted it myself in a booth and then restored it from the frame up after I wrecked it 2 years ago.

Truck went from 96 F1 50 with the regular old 302 211 second twin turbo fox body 5.0 motor and it was quite fun especially being four-wheel-drive.

But that's beside the point lol I'll definitely be posting here for some help with this build, should start tearing the engine down tomorrow and then the real fun begins


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Used an engine analyzer with all the specs of my motor, internals, heads, cams and valve train,turbo, exhaust and everything it was at 350tq at 2000rpm and 696tq at 2500rpm on the desktop dyno at 15lbs of boost.

Max numbers were 598hp 707tq which I'm sure it's not the most accurate measurement ever but still that would be wicked to get 300tq in a matter of 500 rpms


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Since I made quite the mess with floor dry and fluids not much happened today, got the engine mounted to the stand and tranny off.

The clutch looks pretty rough so that's something new I'll be putting in Plus I'll need it for the extra power

But I degreased and power washed the main gunk off the 90k mile engine, got my spot cleaned up in the shop, I'll start tearing the engine down tomorrow so the real fun is going to begin..

These pics are kinda funny showing how crammed my car is with parts

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I'm gonna resurface my flywheel but will need a new clutch especially to handle the power of the new build, so what's a good clutch brand to start with? Something to handle between 5-700 should be enough for awhile


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I'm gonna resurface my flywheel but will need a new clutch especially to handle the power of the new build, so what's a good clutch brand to start with? Something to handle between 5-700 should be enough for awhile


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If you want to pay retail get a McCleod RST for that power level.

If you want to pay way less and get something just as good give this guy a call.

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You should be able to get a no **** dual clutch setup to your door for around the $500 range with everything to install it. Guy is super old school, you may still have to pay with a check/MO but lots and lots and lots of ppl have got stuff from him and its top notch.
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Old 01-27-2016, 07:53 PM   #81
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Progress update for the day

While I had some spare time I started my wire tuck, got the passenger side done, and cleaned it a little bit. Still gonna go thru the entire engine bay and do a better deep clean but it certainly looks better
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Also got started on the engine tear down today these are some before pics, I was shocked how clean it was
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Had to fight the crank pulley but got her off too then had to call it a dayClick image for larger version

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Tomorrow will be a lot more productive since I will get the cover off and what special tools I need to disassemble the heads I was slightly Ill prepared for how far I got


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Got ALOT done today.


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Pistons and rods are out, left the crank just by a couple cap bolts to hold it so it's easy to pull tomorrow.Click image for larger version

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Cylinders are damn near perfect just a slight hone for the new Pistons and I should be good there, heads will get ported and polished and a valve job but the valves them selves also looked goodClick image for larger version

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Nice job...you rock!!

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Actually that's exactly what I'm going to school just so I can have ASE certifications to hang on the wall and then open my own performance shop have several bays, each kind of dedicated to specific things and then a dyno.

But that's a few years down the road though

But yeah no joke I've tore this car down a lot but that's how I taught myself because I did the same thing with my truck bought it second owner tore down painted it myself in a booth and then restored it from the frame up after I wrecked it 2 years ago.

Truck went from 96 F1 50 with the regular old 302 211 second twin turbo fox body 5.0 motor and it was quite fun especially being four-wheel-drive.

But that's beside the point lol I'll definitely be posting here for some help with this build, should start tearing the engine down tomorrow and then the real fun begins


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You've got my attention with that truck stuff- if I ever come into a large sum of money, my 95 needs a wake up and I know who to talk to now!


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Old 01-28-2016, 09:30 PM   #85
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Lol when it was the 11second truck t was full weight 4x4 launched in 4wheel high. Twin turbo fox 5.0 689hp
But now I'm selling the truck to build this mustang lol


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That's awesome!


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What all ARP hardware should I get? Main studs? I need a list lol


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Mains, rods, and heads, headers if you don't already have them. I'd personally get the stage 8 locking if you can. Don't want a turbo header leak at the block.


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Flywheel as well


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Got my timing cover primered and painted. Before you ask it is a ford red, I wanted to be different from the typical blue and also my filter, msd coils and wire looms are red to match
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Got the crank out
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Was pretty surprised at how clean the block was without even being washed, but I'm hot tanking it as we speakClick image for larger version

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Put it threw the big parts washer at school "hot tank" twice for 30 min but it still doesn't look as good as I would like it to, I'm going to paint it anyway but would like it to be cleaner before so the paint job doesn't flake later on


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Decided to save the $ on getting the block professionally cleaned and just pulled out the sanding blocks/degreaser and a rag and went to town. Click image for larger version

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Going to put them on a flow bench, before I order the rotating assembly so I make sure to get the right compression ratio. Then I'll be giving the heads a valve job, a slight port just to clean up the factory flash, and polish them.

Also have quite the brake project going on. I deleted the abs/traction control module and instead of buying the 200$ delete block I just followed the lines off the master cylinder, used some couplers and t blocks to tie the rear lines together and the fronts together. So I spent 50$ on lines fittings and fluid instead of the 200$


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Nice I'll be interested to see how your abs delete works in the real world. Not saying it's not going to work. But just wondering how it's going to feel.


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Still have a little air to work out, the pedal is firm but I can push it to the floor on the first push and by the 3rd push I can't. So I've got a little more bleeding to do but I'm just going to wait until I get the tubular k member in and the wheels back on before I bleed the rest out.


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Got some more cleaning done, heads got washed and blasted Click image for larger version

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Also just to be different and get some laughs, I am candy cane painting my drive shaft lol

Got the red on today, going to mask it off and spray the white or maybe silver tomorrow


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Have you thought about new valves that are shaved for better PTV clearance? I am pretty sure MHS does this and can do it for you.


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I can do that here at school and my Pistons will be notched for my higher lift cams anyway


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Cool deal then. Seems like you have a lot figured out. I'm jealous of your car and what you're doing. Lol. One day mine will be there though.


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don't be jealous just yet lol i've got a long road ahead. but i have alot of resources available and the plan to have a hell of a car when i am done.

I was looking tho, would i see many gains of stroking it to a 302? I can get a rotating assembly about the same as i would if just staying stock bore and forged. So basically the only thing i would be paying more than before would be the boring.
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Since it's not assembled, you could go with a Boss Block instead. Uses the same internals as the 4.6 just with 3.7" Pistons, that alone pushes it to 5.0L, then a stroker kit gets you to 5.3. You would see a very nice gain that way.


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idk if i wanna fork out another 3k for a block tho lol if i did that i couldnt afford the turbo kit too
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So this happened today, I didn't measure it so yeah they aren't spaced the best but no one will really see it but will get some laughs and smiles Click image for larger version

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Looking great. The candy cane is funny, haha.

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