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Old 02-06-2016, 08:41 PM   #1
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first post and first dyno pull

hello to everyone ,
just got my first mustang a couple of weeks ago my brother in law got me hooked and moved me away from bmw and subaru ,
I am slowly in the process of building it into a track car , but first a baseline
its a 2002 mustang gt , i bought it for 2,700 new tires new clutch , only mods i can see is a cold air intake and some sort homemade exhaust with no mufflers on it
car has 140,000 miles on it , compression test came out perfect , changed oil put new plugs and coils and fuel filter ,
i am not sure if the chart will come up but the numbers are
max power 238.42 at around 4,500 rpm
man torque 283.86 at 4,000 rpm
air/fuel was 12.93
how does this sound to you guys ?
is it average numbers or less than what you guys have seen
thank you in advance
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Old 02-06-2016, 08:48 PM   #2
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Sounds about right to me. Welcome to the forum! I'd assume by your name that it's gonna be an auto-x car? I'm in for some pictures of it
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Welcome! Congrats on the new stang and welcome to the club. This generation of mustangs certainly weren't the best handling mustangs from the factory but with some solid upgrades and proper tuning they can hang with some beamers and Scoobys.

Numbers look about right, actually pretty good for the mileage, still running strong. Torque curve is typical for those cars.
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Welcome! Congrats on the new stang and welcome to the club. This generation of mustangs certainly weren't the best handling mustangs from the factory but with some solid upgrades and proper tuning they can hang with some beamers and Scoobys.

Numbers look about right, actually pretty good for the mileage, still running strong. Torque curve is typical for those cars.

Numbers seem high aren't we like ~220 rwhp on a dynojet


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Numbers seem high aren't we like ~220 rwhp on a dynojet

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Well the hp does seem slightly inflated, but I have seen 2v's make similar numbers as well as making much less, ~215 rwhp. Generating numbers on chassis dynos is so loaded these days, whether it's what data is being fed into the software, roller settings, correction factor, to the external uncontrollable (or should be ) factors such as barometric pressure.

I'd focus more on the torque and the trend within the curve, hp is just a derivative of torque anyways. Not saying it doesn't mean anything, but people get far too hung up on horse power as a number imo and ignore torque characteristics.
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i agree with the dyno numbers , as long as the car is in the ballpark of what it should and motor healthy i am happy be 5hp more or less it doesn't really mean much . From what i have read in the forums so far you have to spend around 3 grand to see some real power improvements . On the to do list adding power is the last thing.
as i dive into it more i will post about each stage of build i am going thru
1 st ) brakes ( big brembo kit)
2 ) suspension ( def max motorsports road and track box of some sort , or maybe a IRS swap if i can find a deal on one
3 ) seats and harness
4) rims and tires
i am working on a list , and hopefully when its ready i can get lucky and find some of the parts at a good price second hand

as for pics i will get one but its basically a stock burgundy gt with a gray leather sofa for seats
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Nice. Decent price and the numbers look good for its mileage as others have stated. Ive seen many in the 230-240 whp range so seems about right to me.

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i agree with the dyno numbers , as long as the car is in the ballpark of what it should and motor healthy i am happy be 5hp more or less it doesn't really mean much . From what i have read in the forums so far you have to spend around 3 grand to see some real power improvements . On the to do list adding power is the last thing.
as i dive into it more i will post about each stage of build i am going thru
1 st ) brakes ( big brembo kit)
2 ) suspension ( def max motorsports road and track box of some sort , or maybe a IRS swap if i can find a deal on one
3 ) seats and harness
4) rims and tires
i am working on a list , and hopefully when its ready i can get lucky and find some of the parts at a good price second hand

as for pics i will get one but its basically a stock burgundy gt with a gray leather sofa for seats
For the most part yes, FI is the best bet, but it really depends on how much power you want and what your intentions are. Coming from bmw's and Subaru's I'm sure you know that power alone doesn't win on the track. Suspension, braking and tires matter as much if not more.

I would advocate some exhaust work, slightly steeper gears (3.73s), short throw shifter and a tune. They would help out some in addition to your suspension/braking upgrades without breaking the bank.

One person to talk to would be Soccerluvr4. He is pretty involved in the curves with his 01 Bullitt and has quite a bit of experience with his setup(s).
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Ford's version of IRS for the 99-04 is junk. Invest the money in upgrades for that 8.8 and you'll come out much faster.

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Gears, tune, exhaust. Cams and heads if your budget allows. That's where all you power gains will be Unless you go fi. The SN95 platform definitely needs help in the suspension department. Getting a quality suspension setup with also provide drastic improvement.

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