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Old 02-10-2016, 12:08 AM   #1
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brake set up track days

with all these brakes options
i was hoping i could get some help deciding
i am trying to avoid spending 1,500 on the brembo package
i have a stock 2002 gt and they brakes do suck
i think i def need to change the calipers as well not just pads and rotors
would a 2004 cobra front brake set up work good i found one for 400 bucks with ss brake lines , also for balance would the stock rear brakes work fine with just some better pads?
i drive like a grandmother on the street but i will be doing a couple of track days on the car and some auto cross
anyone have a budget friendly set up that holds up on the track ?

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07-12 GT500 14" rotors
05-09 GT calipers
SS Brake Lines

And this kit SN95 14" S197 Retrofit Brake Kit Bracket - New Edge (1999-2004) - Mustang

And of course a good set of pads

That is a damn good brake set up for the price. Better set up than the 13" Cobra/Mach/Bullitt brake set up.
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ok i will start researching combos ,
how about rears you leave them stock ? or do you convert them as well
also since i have to go 18s what do you run without having a fender issues 18 X 9 , 18X10 in the back or do you go bigger in the back ?
soccer thank you very much for the help
I'm new to mustangs , with other brands options aren't as much but with mustangs it is unreal how many set ups you can choose from
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07-12 GT500 14" rotors
05-09 GT calipers
SS Brake Lines

And this kit SN95 14" S197 Retrofit Brake Kit Bracket - New Edge (1999-2004) - Mustang

And of course a good set of pads

That is a damn good brake set up for the price. Better set up than the 13" Cobra/Mach/Bullitt brake set up.
The problem I have with this kit on a track car is having to use an 18" wheel. Is the extra rotating mass worth the extra inch? If he's not wanting to drop $1500 on a Brembo setup then I don't see how buying a kit that requires 18s will be any more cost effective. Either way with a proper pad the Cobra brakes have more than enough grip to lock the front wheels up.




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ok i will start researching combos ,
how about rears you leave them stock ? or do you convert them as well
also since i have to go 18s what do you run without having a fender issues 18 X 9 , 18X10 in the back or do you go bigger in the back ?
soccer thank you very much for the help
I'm new to mustangs , with other brands options aren't as much but with mustangs it is unreal how many set ups you can choose from
Most braking on a track is done by the front brakes so personally I would just choose a good quality rear pad and some SS lines.

If you decide to go 18s with the brakes that Soccer mentioned I would personally run a square 18X9 setup on all four corners in order to reduce some understeer.
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Honestly I've had good success with my brake set up. DBA fronts and rears with a Hawk HPS pad. Lots of holding power and locking power pedal still feels stock. They're also slotted with their proprietary kangaroo paw internal webbing to help cool from the inside out.


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I agree, i use the DBA rotors with Hawk pads. I use the Hawk dtc70 fronts and dtc60 rears. The cars stops like you threw a boat anchor. They have great initial bite and little fade.

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which DBA rotors do you guys use ?
and no serious brake fade during track days ? at least 5-7 laps at a track like watkins glen
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I use dba 5000 front and 4000 rear. I never been to the Glen. But i had no problems at VIR full course. 3 long fast straights. I went 3 days memorial day weekend. Had a blast and no problems.

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They sell them on AM as the T2 series or you can go with the Xgold ones for slightly more. Xgold are drilled and slotted.


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just a update decided to stick with 17's living in nye area potholes are just 2 much
i am gonna go with hawk has pads , dab rotors and ss lines, plus some good brake fluid
my only question is the cobra calipers are 2 piston as the gt's are
are they really going to improve anything , i found them for 200 bucks
are they worth it ?
what do you guys think for 4-5 track days are they going to be adequate?
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The advantage to the Cobra front brakes is not so much the calipers... It is the 2 inch larger diameter rotors! They provide additional leverage compared to the stock GT brakes. This translates into more braking power, and, most importantly, they allow more time before the brakes begin to get hot and "fade".
I used to autocross with a guy who was using the stock GT brake setup, and they never seemed to be a problem for him... He was typically the fastest in the class (ESP)!
On an actual racetrack, the Cobra brakes can be an asset, especially later in the session, but the GT brakes are perfectly adequate for autocross, in my opinion.

For $200, the Cobra brakes are a great performance and cosmetic upgrade!
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Ultimately it depends on your tires and suspension. Mediocre tires with stock suspension you can lock the brakes easily. Good suspension with great tires and you will have much better stopping power. And then of course there is the factor of brake fade.


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