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Old 02-29-2016, 01:32 PM   #1
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I have a blown head gasket. The engine has 150k miles on her. Would it be better to just rebuild the engine or to swap it out. For the 04's I was told I can just swap it for an engine off a GM or a crown vic. I found a GM engine for 755 with shipping off LKQ and that has a warranty. I was quoted for 1500 to 2200 depending on if I want to upgrade the pistons when I rebuild it. The GM engine has 71k miles on it. IMO that is very little mileage so itll be like brand new for me. I plan on Keeping the car and eventually go turbo.

My mechanic told me he'll swap the engine for 500. so rebuild could be up to 2700 vs the 1255 for the complete engine swap from the GM. Is the GM good enough or would it be better to just do a rebuild on the engine.
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4.8, 5.3, 5.7?

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Your mechanic is going to do all the labor to LSX swap you for $500?


Um... ok.
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What do you mean by "GM"?
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I think he may mean Grand Marquis?


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Ah...

Rebuild will be new... 71k is not a ton but... not brand new either.

I found a Marquis engine with 39k on it for $575 to my door. I'd try to find a lower mileage one than 71k TBTH.
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Your mechanic is going to do all the labor to LSX swap you for $500?


Um... ok.

Is that too much? He's a buddy of mine so I didn't argue.

I'll keep looking.

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4.8, 5.3, 5.7?

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Sorry thought you meant GM as in General Motors.


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LSX swap??? JK!! Look for a lower milage one, if you look around and have the time to do so more importantly youll find one. But for $500 to swap it, that sounds like a great price to me. Typically its from $1200-$2000 to swap a motor at a reputable shop. Does that price include the engine too? If so but Im sure that cant be, but I would take that deal with 71k miles anyday!

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There is no way its $500 with engine. But $500 to swap the motor is a really good price as long as its not Uncle Jimbob.
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LSX swap??? JK!! Look for a lower milage one, if you look around and have the time to do so more importantly youll find one. But for $500 to swap it, that sounds like a great price to me. Typically its from $1200-$2000 to swap a motor at a reputable shop. Does that price include the engine too? If so but Im sure that cant be, but I would take that deal with 71k miles anyday!

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There is no way its $500 with engine. But $500 to swap the motor is a really good price as long as its not Uncle Jimbob.

Yea 500 to swap motors. He changed my clutch, motor mounts, rear main seal, flush out the radiator, change the spark plugs for 240
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Yea 500 to swap motors. He changed my clutch, motor mounts, rear main seal, flush out the radiator, change the spark plugs for 240
I need to drive there and get some work done then if thats the case. Good price and if you trust him I say find a motor and let him have at it.

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I need to drive there and get some work done then if thats the case. Good price and if you trust him I say find a motor and let him have at it.

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I used to know a mechanic that worked out of his personal garage and his prices were like this. He would do an engine swap for 350-600 depending on what it was. He was very good too. Lost contact though and I dont know if he still does that kind of work.

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I used to know a mechanic that worked out of his personal garage and his prices were like this. He would do an engine swap for 350-600 depending on what it was. He was very good too. Lost contact though and I dont know if he still does that kind of work.

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If you're in Southern California he's the place to go to. So 500 is a good price that's good to know, I trust him so I never argue with prices unless I'm low on funds then he'll let me make it up to him or pay him in payments.
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If you're in Southern California he's the place to go to. So 500 is a good price that's good to know, I trust him so I never argue with prices unless I'm low on funds then he'll let me make it up to him or pay him in payments.
Yes $500 is one hell of a deal. I would say most places would charge at least double that

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I take GM as General Motors too

But I have a dumb question though. Do you need get a new transmission to work with the swapped engine or your original transmission can handle it?
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He won't have to do the trans unless something is wrong with it. A pi motor is a pi motor.

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Don't even bother with a modular swap. Do it right and go lsx


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Rebuild will be new... 71k is not a ton but... not brand new either.

I found a Marquis engine with 39k on it for $575 to my door. I'd try to find a lower mileage one than 71k TBTH.

Where did you find this engine ? I'm having trouble finding any engine that's not lkq. Started reading that they tend to send dirty engines.
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Thank you. found a 2011 crown vic for a good deal.
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Don't even bother with a modular swap. Do it right and go lsx


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Does anybody make a kit to install one in a Mustang, and still be emissions legal?
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The LS1 almost bolts right up to our K members, just needs DIY adapter plates or I think UPR makes a kit. Or just buy a K member with LS1 mounts setup already. After that most ppl run the GM ECU and go mechanical gauges or there have been a few ppl who really know their **** who have machined up some parts to use the Mustang ECU to run everything. Or go carbed or megasquirt or something.


Seems the most common thing is to run the GM ECU and then figure the gauges out later. The problem with OBDII emissions is that when you plug in they also scan your door for the VIN (at least here) and the VIN must match the computer. You have to use HP Tuners to change the VIN if you need to pass OBDII emissions. I don't think EFI Live has that feature or if they did they added it recently.


Trying to think what else... mostly "gotcha" stuff. Fuel, random electronics, AC, power steering etc... If you hit up ls1tech or some other forums there is a ton of info on building a "hybrid". Swap headers are available as well as a lot of the stuff for the swap already pre-fabbed since people like to drop LS1s into everything. Real holy ****balls cheap fun fast as all hell car is a FC RX7 with a LSx in it. The FD is probably nicer but just a roller for those in good shape is $$$$. Although my personal favorite is a real nice E36 BMW with a LSx in it. Best of every world there and Samberg makes a full swap kit for it.
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Yeah, doing engine swaps on computer controlled vehicles is a lot more difficult than back in the carburetor days! Lol
I suppose that is why a lot of people in California favor pre-1976 vehicles to heavily modify. There is no emissions testing on those cars.

I think that an LS powered Pinto would be pretty cool. Sort of a copy of the Pro-stock car that Bob Glidden used to race in the 70's. Only Chevy powered! Haha
I'm usually not a fan of bastardizing cars by mixing makes like that, but it's difficult to dismiss an engine that will handle the power, in stock form, like an LS will.
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Lol yeah living in Cali I'd be all about finding a classic. And like REALLY classic like a 1951 Mercury chop top.
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