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Old 03-09-2016, 10:53 AM   #1
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Suspension upgrades.

Finally got my state tax refund back and I ordered some upgraded suspension parts. Ordered a pair of Steeda rear lower control arms. TJ recommended the standard steel ones for my application.

Also saw American Muscle had Ford Racing lowering springs on sale so I grabbed a set of them.

Looking forward to getting rid of some wheel hop and the 4x4 stance.



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Cool! Car looks real clean. Always liked that color.

Can ditch the factory quad shocks after installing the new LCA's.
Which FRPP Springs did you go with? C's?
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Cool! Car looks real clean. Always liked that color.

Can ditch the factory quad shocks after installing the new LCA's.
Which FRPP Springs did you go with? C's?
Yes. Went with the C springs. After sale price and discount they were $165.

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Nice. Those will tighten up some of the fender gap but aren't so extreme that you need to revamp the entire suspension.
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Ordered some energy suspension spring isolators since I'm sure the factory ones are pretty much gone. According to the product info they should lower the car about an inch on all 4 corners. Will I need to purchase adjustable cast/camber plates to make my alignment good after the drop? Some people say I should be OK. Some say I should buy them just in case.

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Well, every car is different. The general consensus in the 99-04 community is that 90% of the time a drop less than 1.375-1.5" won't require aftermarket plates, despite the factory plates having virtually no adjustment built in.

You could do it two ways.

1. Buy the CC plates to be safe. Take the car in for an alignment and see if the shop can get into spec without them. If so, you can simply return the plates.

2. Or you can roll the dice, hold off on the plates and get the alignment. If the shop cannot get into spec you'll have to buy them and pay for another alignment. Worst case is you are out whatever the first alignment cost.

If it were me, I would pick up a set of plates to be safe. If you buy them from a reputable vendor, there should be no issue with returning them N.I.B.
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do it once, do it right. Get a set of plates. Plus then you can add in some custom specs for it to handle a bit better without sacrificing drivability or tire life.
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I dont think you will need the plates with a 1" drop, unless you want them for adjustability or performance reasons later on. If you get plates, do yourself a favor and get the MM ones. Dont try to save a little bit of money buying another brand, ask me how I know!

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Im starting to question the way now I was going to lower my 03 soonish. I was going to go 1.5" maybe with no isos as well, new ball joints, alignment, and call it good. But now with the sale on Koni STR.T products Im changing it up I think. Going to get new Koni struts, maybe Eibach Sportlines (off of craigslist new in box for 150-175), or another flavor of springs a little lower than 1.5", new ball joints, CC plates, and alignment. Roll with the new shocks in the back for now since they are easy to change later on and I'll have more funds too. But I question driveability on my crap roads and maybe should still stick with the SRs for the 1.5" drop, decisions, decisions. Its tough to decide!

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Im starting to question the way now I was going to lower my 03 soonish. I was going to go 1.5" maybe with no isos as well, new ball joints, alignment, and call it good. But now with the sale on Koni STR.T products Im changing it up I think. Going to get new Koni struts, maybe Eibach Sportlines (off of craigslist new in box for 150-175), or another flavor of springs a little lower than 1.5", new ball joints, CC plates, and alignment. Roll with the new shocks in the back for now since they are easy to change later on and I'll have more funds too. But I question driveability on my crap roads and maybe should still stick with the SRs for the 1.5" drop, decisions, decisions. Its tough to decide!

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I still have some time to figure out what I'm going to do. There is still 2 feet of snow blocking the garage door to where my mustang is stored at. According to tracking information the control arms will be here next Tuesday. The springs are still waiting for pickup from American muscle according to that tracking number.

I also plan on adding new rear shocks in the rear and eliminating the quad shock.

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Im starting to question the way now I was going to lower my 03 soonish. I was going to go 1.5" maybe with no isos as well, new ball joints, alignment, and call it good. But now with the sale on Koni STR.T products Im changing it up I think. Going to get new Koni struts, maybe Eibach Sportlines (off of craigslist new in box for 150-175), or another flavor of springs a little lower than 1.5", new ball joints, CC plates, and alignment. Roll with the new shocks in the back for now since they are easy to change later on and I'll have more funds too. But I question driveability on my crap roads and maybe should still stick with the SRs for the 1.5" drop, decisions, decisions. Its tough to decide!

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As someone who has a mustang with a 2" drop and one with a 1.5" drop I can give some real world feedback lol.

03: Super Sports, Tokico HP's, MM 4 bolt CC plates, X2's, no isos.
- 2" drop, stiffer ride. Usually avoid crap roads with potholes and severe crowning. Avoid steep entryways to save chin spoiler. Is not a daily so these "inconveniences" don't bother me.

04: SR Springs, Factory Tokicos and CC plates, no isos
- 1.6" drop, soft, stock like ride. Can still clear steep entryways with my chin spoiler and doesn't bottom out everywhere.

Lowering height is like exhaust, it's subjective. Some guys prefer slammed, others prefer stock height etc.

While the ride height on the Mach is a bit more convenient, I absolutely love the killer stance a 2" drop gives. So much so I am switching my Mach over to the same setup in about 4 hours lol. Only I went with Koni Yellows (Sports) over the HP's and STR.T's because I wanted adjustability. The STR.T's are an excellent choice if you don't need adjustability. I'd choose them over Tokicos.
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Ordered the rear spring isolators. American muscle had their SR performance ones for cheap. I'm sure they will work just fine.

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Springs showed up today.

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Control arms showed up today.

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Sweet! Are those Steedas?
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Sweet! Are those Steedas?
They sure are!

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Awesome. Have to let us know how well they installed and perform. I plan on getting a set of LCA's this summer.
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Have you installed the lowering springs yet?
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As someone who has a mustang with a 2" drop and one with a 1.5" drop I can give some real world feedback lol.

03: Super Sports, Tokico HP's, MM 4 bolt CC plates, X2's, no isos.
- 2" drop, stiffer ride. Usually avoid crap roads with potholes and severe crowning. Avoid steep entryways to save chin spoiler. Is not a daily so these "inconveniences" don't bother me.

04: SR Springs, Factory Tokicos and CC plates, no isos
- 1.6" drop, soft, stock like ride. Can still clear steep entryways with my chin spoiler and doesn't bottom out everywhere.

Lowering height is like exhaust, it's subjective. Some guys prefer slammed, others prefer stock height etc.

While the ride height on the Mach is a bit more convenient, I absolutely love the killer stance a 2" drop gives. So much so I am switching my Mach over to the same setup in about 4 hours lol. Only I went with Koni Yellows (Sports) over the HP's and STR.T's because I wanted adjustability. The STR.T's are an excellent choice if you don't need adjustability. I'd choose them over Tokicos.
Also has to do on your location, I know for a fact you won't see a car slammed up north like you would in South Florida lol.I'm on KW coils with CC plates about a 3" 5" rear drop and love it lol
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Awesome. Have to let us know how well they installed and perform. I plan on getting a set of LCA's this summer.
I have them on the current car and I had them on the blue 98 GT. I had MM LCAs on my 95 Cobra. The Steedas are every bit as good for less money.
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Also has to do on your location, I know for a fact you won't see a car slammed up north like you would in South Florida lol.I'm on KW coils with CC plates about a 3" 5" rear drop and love it lol
Oh there are cars with a drop like yours up here. But it's mainly the import crowd, not mustangs. I have seen a couple S197 Coyotes slammed on coils/bags at a few shows but not nearly as many as down there.

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I have them on the current car and I had them on the blue 98 GT. I had MM LCAs on my 95 Cobra. The Steedas are every bit as good for less money.
Good to know. I am partial to MM, they make very good products, however I am not opposed to other quality products, especially if they're less money!. The Steeda products I currently own have all been excellent.
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I'm partial to MM as well but I'm not a brand loyal zealot lol. Not saying anyone here is. I honestly may UPR K my car as much as I nutswing on MM.

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Sonic, how hard is it to do a 1.6" drop on a 2003 GT vert?


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Sonic, how hard is it to do a 1.6" drop on a 2003 GT vert?


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Im not Sonic, but he said to achieve a 1.6" on his Mach 1 he used SR lowering springs, no isos just use elec tape on the first 6" of the coil on both ends. That is anywhere between 1.6-1.7 lower. He had the stock Tokico dampners on the Mach.

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I'm partial to MM as well but I'm not a brand loyal zealot lol. Not saying anyone here is. I honestly may UPR K my car as much as I nutswing on MM.

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Lol for a street only car its fine. For road race/autox, no way in hell.
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Lol for a street only car its fine. For road race/autox, no way in hell.
At least get Team Z if you are going that route.

Being a street car is even more of a reason to get MM IMO. It is built the strongest out of all of them.
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I haven't gotten the parts installed yet. Mother nature played a nasty April fools joke. Dropped 3" of snow. My driveway is never gonna harden up.

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Finally got my state tax refund back and I ordered some upgraded suspension parts. Ordered a pair of Steeda rear lower control arms. TJ recommended the standard steel ones for my application.

Also saw American Muscle had Ford Racing lowering springs on sale so I grabbed a set of them.

Looking forward to getting rid of some wheel hop and the 4x4 stance.



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Do you run in the front by any chance ?? What tire size do you have

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Do you run in the front by any chance ?? What tire size do you have

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245/45ZR17 front
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Shouldnt rub with a 245 45 17 unless you are like 2.5" or more lower, from what I have seen. Phatspeeds fronts dont look like they have a crazy amount of gap tho in that pic? Maybe its the angle or the way its parked? Usually 17" wheels with stock tires it looks like much more gap, like mine currently, haha.

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Got the springs installed. Went with energy suspension isolators. Car looks a little lower. I'm sure once it settles it will look good. Install took about 4hrs with just basic hand tools and my buddy Kirk watching most of the time. Lol

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How much is the drop on those springs?

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