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Old 03-28-2016, 11:32 PM   #1
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last piece of the puzzle , track| street tires

car almost complete , brakes , seats suspension all done on the 1997 gt
last but not least is the rims and tires
i got some 17x9 front , 17x10 in rears
i was thinking of going 275/40 front 315/35 rear
what do you guys think ? ,
also for brand i have been having a tuff time finding much
car is gonna have 3-4 track days and around 2k a year max on street , it will be parked outside all year round , what are you guys running

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last piece of the puzzle , track| street tires

If you are doing corners you really are going to want a square set up so you don't understeer too much. I'll be using a square 295/35-18 set up on 18x10s all around as my track wheels.

And when you say brakes and suspension as "done", specifically what parts does that entail?

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+1^ on the 315s. Mine would understeer so bad with them. That being said, I know The Nitto NT05s come in both those sizes and might be a good option.

Personally I would try to find a square setup to swap for track days. My old GT had troubles maxing out my old 255/40R17 Hankook Ventus RS3 setup in the corners.
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Thanks guys ,
I'll go 275/40 all around
Does it matter that rims in back are 17x10 ?

Also what do you guys think of the nitto 555 ?
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Brakes
Dot 4 , cobra calipers , new rotors , hAwk pads , ss lines front and back

Seats
Put in sparcos with harness with bar

Suspension
Shocks , struts , springs , swap bars , camber plates , bushings , subframe connectors

Basic stuff but good enough to have a good time
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Well if you already have staggered rims and are a 1/4 mile car I would get the original combo you were looking at. Get Mickey Thompson Street Comps.


If you were to run a square setup I'd go 17x9 or 18x9 (or 9.5) all around with the appropriate tire size. Its going to look dumb if you put 275s all around on a staggered setup. Also if your rims are 17x10.5 like most are a 275 will be too narrow.
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I'm not it's what just came with the car ,
Do you think 275 on 17x10 will be stretching it ?
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Is it a 17x10.5 or a 17x10 since most aftermarket rims in that size are 17x10.5 but not all.
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They are def aftermarket so I would be on the safe side and say 10.5 then
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Get the staggered Mickeys. The car handles like crap with the stock 4 link anyway, lots of work needed to really get it to stick to the road like a newer car.
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Also what do you guys think of the nitto 555 ?
For a corner carver these tires wouldn't even be in the top 10 of my list. They can't handle the power my car makes in a straight line and I have no doubt that they would suck going around a corner.
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If corners are on your mind, then Nitto and Mickey Thompson can't be.

I just picked up a set of 315/30-18 BFG Rival S for my car. Very entertaining to drive. I will have a report on the Kuhmo V720 for time trial use in three weeks, I will be doing a few runs on those at gripfest in the s2000. I would not use the RE71R for time trial, they overheat easily and get greasy (strangely only under transitions though, peak cornering force does not drop significantly).
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Did he ever explicitly say that his track days were cornering or 1/4 mile? I dunno, why I'm asking. Didn't see it in the thread but may have missed it.


Can always find a cheap beat up set of 17x9s and get some dedicated track tires if its for corner carving or ET streets to swap on the back for 1/4 days.


Car is going to handle like butt comparatively until the 4 link is taken care of anyway.
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Did he ever explicitly say that his track days were cornering or 1/4 mile? I dunno, why I'm asking. Didn't see it in the thread but may have missed it.
I'd say it's implied by his username. But if I remember from a couple months back he did mention that he wanted to make the car handle well. One give away to me is the upgrade to Cobra brakes. Most drag guys won't step up to that setup on a GT.
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Oh, then he should sell his rims/tires and get a square setup.
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last piece of the puzzle , track| street tires

For suspension you definitely have a long way to go. A pan hard bar and torque arm will make a world of a difference in how the rear end grips the road.

The NT05 that JDF mentioned is what I'll most likely be using with my 295 square set up.

Some 275s can work. The Nitto NT01 actually looks damn perfect as a 275 on a 10", but since it'll be extreme cornering I do kind of want a little buffer on my wheel lip.


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A staggered set up "can" work. It works on a lot of high end cars. But you need the suspension to put you more on the oversteer side.


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Guys thank you for the advice ,
My 02 gt at 6'5 I couldn't fit with helmet in stock seats and adding all the parts came out to not being worth it ,

I bought a 97 , has sparcos , harness , bar usual Boltons for motor , cobra brakes , 60k on motor ,new clutch .paid 3k for the car .
I just ordered nt05's on the rims I have now discount tire hooked it up came out to 780 installed .
The car is slow dynoed at 195 at the wheels .
t first track day for this car is in lime rock this Monday ,My first in 8 years .
There is still some spots left if anyone is interested .
Again guys thank you for all the input
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You throw some cams and a PI swap/tune at that motor and you'll be near 300rwhp. Be careful of that T45 transmission, they have issues at higher mileage with the paper blocker rings disintegrating and will grind at high RPM shifts after awhile. But if yours is still good then roll with it.


Next step suspension wise would be subframes if it doesn't have them (Steeda) and then start figuring out what you want to do with the rear end. The stock setup is horrible for handling... like really bad. Needs to be converted to 3 link, 5 link or IRS. IRS in a 94-98 is a little more involved than a 99-04 but not much more. 3 link and 5 link are the same as far as install.
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Thank you Scott , if I could find a 3 or 5 link pref used for fair price in next 72 I would do it , but there is always next time
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In running 275/35/18 on my 10x18 rims and they fit great
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Thank you Scott , if I could find a 3 or 5 link pref used for fair price in next 72 I would do it , but there is always next time
Only way you're finding a 3 or 5 link setup used is if someone is parting out a wrecked car. IRS is the one you find used as they are obviously not available new.

You will not truly be able to handle correctly until you take care of the 4 link and that's just the sad truth about the 04-down solid rear axle...
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shop is welding on subframe connectors , ( at least that should help)
ill do the 5 link once i sell the 02gt got post it tomo at some point
it will be fun to see how it handles with the springs struts anti roll bars , brace , camber plates and sub frame connectors

anyone know a good performance alignment shop in tri state area
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Yeah Wicked Motorsports in Toms River, NJ. Talk to Kevin.
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You don't really need to do any modifications to the rear suspension if you are just going to be a "recreational racer", a few times a year. As a matter of fact, if you ever plan to autocross the car competitively, modifications to the rear suspension will get you bumped up into classes that will be very difficult for a Mustang to compete in.
Get some sticky tires with a UTQG rating of 200 or less, and make sure that there is nothing worn out in your front and rear suspension. Also, you should PI swap your engine. You will be a little under powered with only 195 rwhp.

You don't need to build a full-on racecar to go out and have some fun on the weekends. And driving a less than perfect car will force you to learn the nuances of your vehicle.
Work on the "driver mod" first. Then you can figure out what needs to be done to the car to make you faster.
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ty scott , going to kevin this sat to install subframe connectors .

bullit you are correct all about the fun its been 8 years but before then i prob did 40 trackdays but not in a mustang .
i have a motor from my 02 dyno at 240 hp 285 torque to the wheels , if i don't get a decent price now that i am trying to selling the car , i am just gonna take it out and put it in the 97
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Nice, Kevin will do a badass job and uses the Steeda units. Will get your car up on a lift, weld them in and then hit them with a roll on sealer to keep everything from corroding.
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