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Old 03-31-2016, 08:45 AM   #1
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Guys how come nobody uses stage 5 cams on sn95's. Most guys do the stage 3 cams and call it a day. Im guessing the stage 5 would require you to do the heads because of the lift so they dont want the expense. But why dont they go with a stage 5 cam?

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It's unnecessary for starters. Stage 3 is enough for a 2V.


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Cam number please. "Stage" is a marketing gimmick. Everyone will have different profiles for different recommended performance levels anyway.


Also where do you get the information that "most guys use stage 3 and call it" from? Plenty of people making big power with relatively mild cams because they have the correct profile for the power adder they are using.
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It's unnecessary for starters. Stage 3 is enough for a 2V.


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What's the difference between the 3 and 5? I know it's going to be a bigger loop so why wouldn't you recommend it for a "starter"? What application would it be used for?

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Cam number please. "Stage" is a marketing gimmick. Everyone will have different profiles for different recommended performance levels anyway.


Also where do you get the information that "most guys use stage 3 and call it" from? Plenty of people making big power with relatively mild cams because they have the correct profile for the power adder they are using.
Well most of the 2v guys on youtube only run 3. Probably one or two run 4. And can you give me some examples where you would use a more aggressive cam?

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As Scotty said its a marketing gimmick. Stage 3 is a given name for cams with certain dimensions. Being not all stage 3 cams have the same dimensions between manufactures. So cams with X dimensions to Y dimensions are all called "stage 3," or are consider to be in the stage 3 class. Goes for every stage as well. Hell, I've seen stage 10 cams.


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As Scotty said its a marketing gimmick. Stage 3 is a given name for cams with certain dimensions. Being not all stage 3 cams have the same dimensions between manufactures. So cams with X dimensions to Y dimensions are all called "stage 3," or are consider to be in the stage 3 class. Goes for every stage as well. Hell, I've seen stage 10 cams.


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Got it. So what applications would I want to use a "stage 5" cam for?

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Got it. So what applications would I want to use a "stage 5" cam for?

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Got it. So what applications would I want to use a "stage 5" cam for?

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It's as Scotty said, he knows what he talking about. Don't just say I want a stage 3; look at your build and your other mods. Then determine what cam is best for your build. It might be a stage 1, 2, or 3. If a stage 2 is the best cam for the build and you put a stage 3 in it, your power band will change. Low end will be a pig but gain power in top end. Goal is to have both. So, baddest cam isn't always the answer.


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I still Lol when they call the camshaft profiles by " Stages "

**** is BS .. get custom grinds to meet your goals .. end of discussion.

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"Most of the youtube guys use Stage 3"... What?


Go to an actual Mustang meet, go to a dragstrip or road course/autox and actually talk to ppl. Youtube is marketing, showing off and whatever. Anyone can say "omg stage 9 cams!" on youtube. Hell the cams I am getting are regrinds that aren't any stage, they are HP292s. They sound just like a Comp 270 tho which is sometimes called a Comp Stage 3. I could tell you I had a "stage 3" cam and you'd never know they weren't.
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Thanks for the clarity

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I find it amusing that some people build around running a certain cam.....

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Got it. So what applications would I want to use a "stage 5" cam for?

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In 1919, Ed Winfield, who is considered by many as the father of hot rodding, began experimenting with camshaft grinds for Model T Fords. He was the first "aftermarket" supplier of performance camshafts. Ed started out selling only two different camshafts, a semi-race cam, and a full race cam. Soon thereafter, due to popular demand, he began to offer a 3/4 race cam, which was in between the semi-race and the full race cams. Even almost 100 years ago, Ed realized that if he tried to sell his cams using only the camshaft specifications, that very few people would understand what they meant, and how the cams could change the performance of the engine.
The same holds true today. Camshaft manufacturers have always had some sort of name for their cams. Nowadays, the manufacturers seem to favor calling them "stages".

What most camshaft manufacturers call a "Stage 5" cam, would be considered very aggressive. A camshaft like that would typically be used in a naturally aspirated engine that has at least an 11:1+ compression ratio. Not really a daily driver engine. And it would certainly not work well with the stock compression ratio of our modular engines.
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In 1919, Ed Winfield, who is considered by many as the father of hot rodding, began experimenting with camshaft grinds for Model T Fords. He was the first "aftermarket" supplier of performance camshafts. Ed started out selling only two different camshafts, a semi-race cam, and a full race cam. Soon thereafter, due to popular demand, he began to offer a 3/4 race cam, which was in between the semi-race and the full race cams. Even almost 100 years ago, Ed realized that if he tried to sell his cams using only the camshaft specifications, that very few people would understand what they meant, and how the cams could change the performance of the engine.
The same holds true today. Camshaft manufacturers have always had some sort of name for their cams. Nowadays, the manufacturers seem to favor calling them "stages".

What most camshaft manufacturers call a "Stage 5" cam, would be considered very aggressive. A camshaft like that would typically be used in a naturally aspirated engine that has at least an 11:1+ compression ratio. Not really a daily driver engine. And it would certainly not work well with the stock compression ratio of our modular engines.
Thank you for being so detailed.

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