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Old 04-08-2016, 08:36 AM   #1
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i need to get the car aligned , its a 97 gt
it has ford motorsports lower spring the progressive ones and tokico blue's all around ,
from what i have seen t he springs are only about a 1 inch drop .
can i get away with not putting on cc plates ?

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forgot to add it has 275/40 17 in front and 315/35 in back
if that makes any diff with alignment
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When I did my springs also Ford racing I left out my isos which gave me about 1 3/4 drop and I didn't need cc plates

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You shouldn't need cc plates, I have them on my car but I'm DROPPED a lot more than you.
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You shouldnt need them for a 1" drop. It may be a suspension upgrade you will want in the future for more adj since you are autoxing the car though. But for now you won't need them. Im doing the same drop as Jeno, except SR, Eibach, or H&R springs at 1.5 drop, no isos. Im banking on not needing them to get close to alignment spec.

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I got a 1.5 inch drop from my Sr springs. Although people said i didn't need the plates i got them. Really helped out and reduced that negative camber. I would recommend if you're planning on doing any suspension work in the future.
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outside of a panhard bar in the back thats about it ,
and if i can get away with no cc plates i can buy the panhard sooner .
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Always want to get the maximum motorsports cc plates , factory has little to 0 adjustment for camber or caster.

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outside of a panhard bar in the back thats about it ,
and if i can get away with no cc plates i can buy the panhard sooner .
I think that you will be alright without the plates. You actually want about 1.5 degrees of negative camber to help improve the handling.
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Always want to get the maximum motorsports cc plates , factory has little to 0 adjustment for camber or caster.

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There is quite a bit of adjustment with the factory plates. It is common for Mustang owners, who autocross their cars, to drill out the rivets in the OEM plates and then readjust them at the track by pushing the top of the struts all of the way towards the center of the car, thus, maximizing the camber setting.

The factory plates are adjustable for caster and camber. For some reason, most alignment technicians are hesitant to drill out the rivets so that the plates can be re-adjusted from the factory setting.
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You can also slot the upper bolt hole of the strut where it bold to the spindle to get more camber adjustment without using camber caster plates. Old school alignment trick


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There is quite a bit of adjustment with the factory plates. It is common for Mustang owners, who autocross their cars, to drill out the rivets in the OEM plates and then readjust them at the track by pushing the top of the struts all of the way towards the center of the car, thus, maximizing the camber setting.

The factory plates are adjustable for caster and camber. For some reason, most alignment technicians are hesitant to drill out the rivets so that the plates can be re-adjusted from the factory setting.
That is awesome info. I havent heard that yet. Thanks for sharing. Everyone is always so quick to say you need CC plates even when they dont even know how much the car has been lowered, lol. I know their necessary for many applications and are a great suspension mod anyway. I have them on my 96, I went with H&R supersports and the alignment tech told me he didnt really need them to get it into spec, it was borderline. Ive had no issues with wear. He did adjust them because I have them but like I said, it didnt absolutely need them.

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That is awesome info. I havent heard that yet. Thanks for sharing. Everyone is always so quick to say you need CC plates even when they dont even know how much the car has been lowered, lol. I know their necessary for many applications and are a great suspension mod anyway. I have them on my 96, I went with H&R supersports and the alignment tech told me he didnt really need them to get it into spec, it was borderline. Ive had no issues with wear. He did adjust them because I have them but like I said, it didnt absolutely need them.

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"Poor man's" CC plates!
Yes. They are not an ideal replacement for quality aftermarket plates, especially on "slammed" cars. But for cars that are lowered only an inch or so, the factory plates usually work fine.
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i need to get the car aligned , its a 97 gt
it has ford motorsports lower spring the progressive ones and tokico blue's all around ,
from what i have seen t he springs are only about a 1 inch drop .
can i get away with not putting on cc plates ?

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You won't know until you get your alignment, CC plates are needed for the Steeda springs I have, which weren't much of a drop (1 1/2")....still out .5° on my right side, CC plates going on next month.
It's really hit and miss until you see the alignment guys

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You won't know until you get your alignment, CC plates are needed for the Steeda springs I have, which weren't much of a drop (1 1/2")....still out .5° on my right side, CC plates going on next month.
It's really hit and miss until you see the alignment guys

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I have heard it can be vehicle specific for some reason. Same year car, same drop and one will get into spec and an other wont.

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Could be how worn the bushings are or how stretched the strut tops are it all has an effect.
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Could be how worn the bushings are or how stretched the strut tops are it all has an effect.
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Just saying lol, I'm not suspension expert, but if you are doing springs or coils, I'd change all the bushings as well, because once you lower the car you will put more strain on those parts and tear them most likely.
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Just saying lol, I'm not suspension expert, but if you are doing springs or coils, I'd change all the bushings as well, because once you lower the car you will put more strain on those parts and tear them most likely.
Thats good advice for sure. Should always at least get some good quality ball joints

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I agree.
Replacing the worn front end components should be the first thing that is done.
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I agree.
Replacing the worn front end components should be the first thing that is done.
Best thing to do, when I dropped it I changed the tie-rod bushings, ball joints, control arms. everything.. lol but I am a lot lower than a lot of the people on here. Also how do you post a pic of your car in the sig. section.
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