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Old 05-11-2016, 01:56 PM   #1
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CMS stage 2 NA cams finally here!

40 days from order to my door step but I finally have them in hand.







Also have a set of their stage 2 valve springs for the build. Hopefully I can get the rest of the parts I need and have them installed next month.

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I am going to order the same ones very soon! Please be sure to do a write up so I can follow your build!!! I have the money to buy them now, I am just in a place right now where I can't spend unnecessary money.


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I am going to order the same ones very soon! Please be sure to do a write up so I can follow your build!!! I have the money to buy them now, I am just in a place right now where I can't spend unnecessary money.


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Im in that place too, I actually took a job making less money (well Im 80% sure) Im going to take it. Less hours by about 25 to 30 a week will be nice though, and being hourly verse salary for a while anyway.

Regardless I envy you guys and your damn cams! Ive always wanted a car with a nice big cam in it, I know a lot of people say their a waste of money, and I get the point as to why, but I still love the sound of them and will eventually have the funds one day. Ever since I was a kid and my brother had his 69 Chevelle 396 with a huge cam, Ive always dreamed of having a car that even remotely sounded like that. They may not add FI power but the way they sound at idle, is worth at least 150hp in my book, ha.

Im looking forward to living vicariously through your guys builds to come this summer! You have to do a good long video of it running, Kenneys was short when it came to the acual car running, still appreciated it and it sounded great but hes a tease for sure, lol.

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Can you do step by step details of the install for rookies like myself Or some pics? 😃

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Was researching tools I may need and ran across this awesome valve spring compressor.



http://www.euroexportinc.com/ford-va...-valves-engine

They have different models depending on what cylinder head you have. I'll be ordering one later this afternoon.

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Yea I saw that myself when doing research as well. They look pretty neat and that they work pretty well. I might order one. I've seen people do it with the regular tool and it didn't look to bad.


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Got the tool ordered. Stoked!

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Im in that place too, I actually took a job making less money (well Im 80% sure) Im going to take it. Less hours by about 25 to 30 a week will be nice though, and being hourly verse salary for a while anyway.

Regardless I envy you guys and your damn cams! Ive always wanted a car with a nice big cam in it, I know a lot of people say their a waste of money, and I get the point as to why, but I still love the sound of them and will eventually have the funds one day. Ever since I was a kid and my brother had his 69 Chevelle 396 with a huge cam, Ive always dreamed of having a car that even remotely sounded like that. They may not add FI power but the way they sound at idle, is worth at least 150hp in my book, ha.

Im looking forward to living vicariously through your guys builds to come this summer! You have to do a good long video of it running, Kenneys was short when it came to the acual car running, still appreciated it and it sounded great but hes a tease for sure, lol.

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Alright alright I'll make a longer walk a round video and give the people what they want lmao


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I might have to see if they have a 4V version of that tool... With the cams out you can't use the regular OTC tool.


This is the one most everyone uses with the cams in place.


http://www.amazon.com/OTC-Ford-Valve...ing+compressor




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I might have to see if they have a 4V version of that tool... With the cams out you can't use the regular OTC tool.


This is the one most everyone uses with the cams in place.


http://www.amazon.com/OTC-Ford-Valve...ing+compressor




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The tool looks like it works very well from the YouTube video I saw.

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Alright alright I'll make a longer walk a round video and give the people what they want lmao


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Hahaha. Your video was great, I showed my wife last night and she even enjoyed it. I told her see, we need to do some damage to our savings acct and build mine, and mine is silver to, so it makes perfect sense to copy you, lol

It really sounds great tho man!

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The tool arrived yesterday. Fast shipping for free shipping.

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Since they won't be in before the Mustang Run next weekend I made a note below the decal.

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Old 05-15-2016, 05:55 PM   #14
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That tool looks solid. I think I'm going to order that as well tomorrow


2003 GT: JLT CAI, summit 75mm TB, C&L plenum, 24# injectors, Mac Prochamber, SLP LM1 cat back, 3.73 Gears, FR500 Diff, FR500 diff cover, Jmod trans and shift kit, Max Motorsports subframes, Koni oranges front and rear, DBA discs front and rear, shrader performance rear seat delete, APSX D2 wideband, MPT happy customer.
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Hey Phat, did you have CMS degree your cams? I made my purchase today of the same cams and all supporting parts.


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Old 05-17-2016, 09:30 AM   #16
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Hey Phat, did you have CMS degree your cams? I made my purchase today of the same cams and all supporting parts.


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I have a buddy who's brother built his motor. He did the degree service on his. Next winter hopefully I'll be doing long tubes and his old procharger set up when he goes turbo.

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Old 05-17-2016, 09:33 AM   #17
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Oh ok. Well please be sure to post install pics!


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Congrats man! Can't wait to hear her when you got her back together.
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My buddies brother is going to help me with the install of the cams since he did the install on my buddies car. Problem is finding time to get my car over to his place, and doing the install. I'm hoping to get them installed, and the car tuned before the Oreilly Street machine nationals in July. He works a full time job, plus works weekends bar-tending.

Nothing is harder than having HP just sitting on the floor of my room.
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I know what you mean. I haven't even got mine yet and it's eating me up. I'll probably be in the same boat you are. No time. Did you buy lash adjusters?


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I know what you mean. I haven't even got mine yet and it's eating me up. I'll probably be in the same boat you are. No time. Did you buy lash adjusters?


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No. I'm winging it with the bare minimal.

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Replacing my ticking lash adjusters is the way I justified spending all this money on cams and everything else to the girlfriend. Might as well replace it while I'm in there!


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Buddy has this tool, but loaned it out and has since went missing. I just ordered another one. Should save hours of work.

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Are you not going to take off the timing cover?


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Are you not going to take off the timing cover?


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This tool makes it so you don't have too. My buddy had his hi tech cams installed in his Mustang in an afternoon by his brother. Mine will take a little longer since I'm also doing springs. Bought the air valve spring holder too also. Next weekend will be the day we hopefully do the install.

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I just figured you would take the cover off to inspect your chains and tensioners. And for the fact that it's easy for the tool to slip and allow the chain to skip a tooth.


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I just figured you would take the cover off to inspect your chains and tensioners. And for the fact that it's easy for the tool to slip and allow the chain to skip a tooth.


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My buddy who used the tool has had his cams in his 01 GT for almost 6 years now and 50k miles. 20k of them making 500hp with 9psi of boost. No problems.

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Also one thing to remember. Ford bases the right and left cyl head as sitting in the drivers seat.


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Well my buddy found his cam gear holder tool. I'm currently talking with another buddy in letting me use a bay in his shop possible tomorrow or Friday afternoon to get these cams installed.

My holder should be here tomorrow. Just in case.

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Very nice! I'm glad he found it. Make sure to post pictures of the install!!


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Talked to Perfect performance in buhl MN. He's going to help me with the install tomorrow. I told the guys I'd buy pizza for letting me use the shop.

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Awesome man! I'm glad you got it all sorted out. I hope everything goes smoothly for you!


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Passenger side tear down first.














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Sweet. Have you got the valve springs out yet?


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3hrs to do one head for springs. Last valve I lost one keeper in the engine bay. Robbing parts off a parts motor the shop has. Don't even have the one came installed yet.

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