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Old 05-29-2016, 10:21 AM   #1
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Hey guys , I have saved a couple of pennies got about 2,500 towards suspension mods, right now I have full steeds sfc , mm camber plates , ford c line springs , tokico Blues , strut tower brace on a 97gt
I'm thinking the first and most expensive is a 5 link .
Any one know realistic install time
And also what else should I install since I will be there
Plus do you guys see any other set up that would be bettering
Car will be driven on street occasionally in NYC , some autox and track days as well

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2500 pennies is only $25.


Is this car a daily driver? Or is it going to be mostly a track car that won't see very much street driving?
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It will be driven about 1,500 miles a year on the street.
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xxr staggered 17's, ford racing c springs, tokico blue struts, koni orange shocks, shorty billit antenna, billit gas cap, UPR CAI, UPR O/R Xpipe, Magna flow exhaust, Mach1 grill delete w/ chin spoiler, honeycomb blackout, Bama tuned 93 OCT.
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Hey guys , I have saved a couple of pennies got about 2,500 towards suspension mods, right now I have full steeds sfc , mm camber plates , ford c line springs , tokico Blues , strut tower brace on a 97gt

I'm thinking the first and most expensive is a 5 link .

Any one know realistic install time

And also what else should I install since I will be there

Plus do you guys see any other set up that would be bettering

Car will be driven on street occasionally in NYC , some autox and track days as well



Thanks in advance

With $2500 you can get MUCH better than that 5 link.

1. MM LCAs $260
2. FTR Watts Link $1,000
3. MM Torque Arm $ 450
4. MM Rear Sway Bar $370

My set up is:
MM subframe connectors
MM LCAs
MM Panhard Bar
MM Torque Arm
MM Coilovers all around
MM Camber plates

I got the Panhard bar before the FTR Watts Link came out (my friend's design).

The rear end in my suspension is pretty on point right now. I need more front suspension to balance it out, but definitely does the job.


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That FTR Watts Link is pretty sweet!


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The 5 link is a good setup but the install will be $$$ unless you are good at welding. TBTH, if you want a street car that goes around corners... IRS.
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IRS would need a lot more $ needed to be as competitive, and it would definitely dig into his funds to just get a bone stock IRS. Get the right shock and spring in the rear on a SRA and it can be plenty comfy.
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It is a really nice unit. Cool thing about being friends with the owner of FTR, when i eventually have money to build my car right i will be able to just drive over and pick up all the parts lol. Still gotta get back with him to finish up the diffuser design. Just gotta fix my car first.

But the pan hard bar is one of the most noticeable mods i did to my car for cornering, and a Watts Link is so much better.
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IRS would need a lot more $ needed to be as competitive, and it would definitely dig into his funds to just get a bone stock IRS. Get the right shock and spring in the rear on a SRA and it can be plenty comfy.
You've got the Watt's link, control arms and torque arm right around $1700 or so which is what a good IRS and a FTBR or MM kit is going to cost if he does the install himself.

I dunno its not for everyone, I like it. The Watt's or TA/PHB setup, the IRS and the 5 link are all good choices IMO and are all going to be about the same cost.

I still kick around doing a poor man's 3 link and calling it good for a 400hp street car.
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You've got the Watt's link, control arms and torque arm right around $1700 or so which is what a good IRS and a FTBR or MM kit is going to cost if he does the install himself.

I dunno its not for everyone, I like it. The Watt's or TA/PHB setup, the IRS and the 5 link are all good choices IMO and are all going to be about the same cost.

I still kick around doing a poor man's 3 link and calling it good for a 400hp street car.
I have been considering the IRS, though. A bit more predictable, and the weight may actually help balance out the car.
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It will be driven about 1,500 miles a year on the street.
I would do everything on your list except the five link. Also replace any of the suspension/steering components that are worn out. Depending on the mileage on your car, that may be everything that moves in the suspension.
And invest in a set of super sticky tires!
Save whatever is left, and put it towards a PI swap on your engine.

You should go do a few autocross/track day events before deciding to add substantial suspension modifications. You may want to race the car in a specific class that does not allow certain suspension modifications.
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I have been considering the IRS, though. A bit more predictable, and the weight may actually help balance out the car.
Yep, its heavier but it balances the car better. The FTBR or MM kits aren't exactly expensive or super hard to do while the rear is out and then you are good to go. I'm for sure doing one, actually going to try to trade my 34k mile SRA/control arms/exhaust/3.73s for a good condition IRS and catback.
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Yep, its heavier but it balances the car better. The FTBR or MM kits aren't exactly expensive or super hard to do while the rear is out and then you are good to go. I'm for sure doing one, actually going to try to trade my 34k mile SRA/control arms/exhaust/3.73s for a good condition IRS and catback.
I'm sure i'd be able to trade my PHB, TA, LCA, 4.10, coil over rear end for a decent IRS.
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Hello ,

The car has the pi swap already and i have nitto nt05's , brakes all sorted as well .
I have done some autox and a track day on the current set up .
It's right at the edge of being a dd , with the sparcos and harness and no Ac . It's not that comfortable lol

I just want the next level of handling
On a realistic parts budget . I can do most installs as long as we aren't talking about welding
So maybe I should have asked
What dd/ autox / track day upgrades would you guys do considering what I already have on the car for about 2k?
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Hello ,

The car has the pi swap already and i have nitto nt05's , brakes all sorted as well .
I have done some autox and a track day on the current set up .
It's right at the edge of being a dd , with the sparcos and harness and no Ac . It's not that comfortable lol

I just want the next level of handling
On a realistic parts budget . I can do most installs as long as we aren't talking about welding
So maybe I should have asked
What dd/ autox / track day upgrades would you guys do considering what I already have on the car for about 2k?
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With $2500 you can get MUCH better than that 5 link.

1. MM LCAs $260
2. FTR Watts Link $1,000
3. MM Torque Arm $ 450
4. MM Rear Sway Bar $370

My set up is:
MM subframe connectors
MM LCAs
MM Panhard Bar
MM Torque Arm
MM Coilovers all around
MM Camber plates

I got the Panhard bar before the FTR Watts Link came out (my friend's design).

The rear end in my suspension is pretty on point right now. I need more front suspension to balance it out, but definitely does the job.


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When you autocross the car, do you race in a specific class? Or do you just do "fun runs", and go out and try to turn fast laps?

The reason that I ask is because if you want to race competitively, there are rules about what modifications are allowed. Mods that change the geometry of the stock suspension will bump you up into classes that are difficult to be competitive in with these generation of Mustangs.

I raced my Bullitt on a basically stock, completely rebuilt suspension, and it was a reasonably competitive car on sticky street tires. After I felt like I reached the limits of the car on street tires, I purchased a set of Hoosier A6 tires and the car suddenly became VERY competitive.

So my recommendation is, if you feel like you can proficiently drive the car faster than it will go on street tires, move up to a set of R-comps. Once you feel like you have mastered the car on those tires, then start thinking about what modifications need to be done to the suspension to make you faster.
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