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Old 07-21-2016, 09:50 PM   #1
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hello everyone i registered here for my nephew who bought a 2000 mustang gt with a 4.6 liter sohc engine and we changed the oil we checked it first and it was in the range and when i drained it only about 2.5 quarts came out???? wtf?? i understand its supposed to be like 5-6! the gomer at ford says it should take 6 quarts to fill it, well it took like 3! plus a touch more for the filter can someone here help explain this to me because i just dont understand it the dip stick says and said the oil was in range at least half way i would love to hear your comments thanks mark
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Do you have the correct dipstick, or is it too long?

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its a possibility i know he got a 2000 mustang gt 4.6 and a 2000 serpentine belt wont fit we had to get one for a 97 we could have a can of worms here so that being said can anyone of you measure your dipsticks ( no pun intended ) and let me confirm it with ours, please and thank you
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its a possibility i know he got a 2000 mustang gt 4.6 and a 2000 serpentine belt wont fit we had to get one for a 97 we could have a can of worms here so that being said can anyone of you measure your dipsticks ( no pun intended ) and let me confirm it with ours, please and thank you
I am actually headed out to check my oil. Bear with me and I will give you a measurement.

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quick question while i got ya

hey revv is it a 4.6 4v if its injected? right? i mean they dont use carbs anymore i usually associate 2v.4v as 2 and 4 barrel. i got a feeling we have a different year engine here
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No carbs anymore. 2002 GT 4.6 two valve engine.

Dipstick is 29" from the yellow stop to the end.

The housing or piping sits level with the valve cover.







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Only on a mustang forum will you find a man wondering whether or not his dipstick is too long.

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ok

ill swing by my nephews tomorow after work and measure his dipstick ( ha ha ) so you say 2v=2 valve and 4v=4 valve heads? i have been checkin around and one other guy some place else says his is 27" now that would certainly add some oil but let me check tomorow is your dipstick ha ha twisted?
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Yes, the dipstick is twisted. I'm not entirely certain whether or not the oil pans were changed throughout the SN95 body style.

2v= two valve
3v= there valve
4v= four valve.

Welcome to the confusing world of Ford. I'm a Mopar guy lost and in love with Mustangs. I had to learn the terminology as well.

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---------- Post added at 12:40 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:39 AM ----------

4v will only be on Cobras and Mach 1s in our year model cars.

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ok well.. ill assume for the moment its a 2v, revvv do you know where the engine serial number is? supposed to be? and thanks for your time really been a big help i hope his stick is too long that would answere alot
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I am certain your nephew has a 2 valve.

As for the serial number; I will have to look that up. If Scotty comes along and sees this thread he will likely know without thinking.

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Its gonna be in a spot real hard to see. As for 2V vs 4V, your nephew has a 2V, they are physically very different looking engines. Not to mention they both take 6 quarts to fill.

If you want to see the differences just look up 2001 Cobra engine and then look up 2000 Mustang GT engine.

Now as far as how much oil came out... you did wipe off the dipstick first and then put it back in to check right? And you should be getting a lot more than 3 quarts out of it. At any rate, do NOT run it with just 3 quarts of new oil in it. Get back out there and put the full 6 quarts in. Never measure with the dipstick when doing the oil change, its 6 quarts and that's what you put in it every time regardless of what the dipstick says.
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Its gonna be in a spot real hard to see. As for 2V vs 4V, your nephew has a 2V, they are physically very different looking engines. Not to mention they both take 6 quarts to fill.

If you want to see the differences just look up 2001 Cobra engine and then look up 2000 Mustang GT engine.

Now as far as how much oil came out... you did wipe off the dipstick first and then put it back in to check right? And you should be getting a lot more than 3 quarts out of it. At any rate, do NOT run it with just 3 quarts of new oil in it. Get back out there and put the full 6 quarts in. Never measure with the dipstick when doing the oil change, its 6 quarts and that's what you put in it every time regardless of what the dipstick says.
I didn't consider mentioning that the oil needs to be at capacity.

I knew the faithful and knowledgeable New Edge Mustang guru would make it to this thread and save the day.

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Eh... I wouldn't call myself all that, I've been on here way way less than in the past. But thanks for the kind words.

Yeah he needs to be damn sure he isn't running the thing at half oil capacity. That'll turn into a bad time real fast.
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thanks gentlemen

i will do it scott i knew it wasnt right it couldn t be ill put six quarts in it and while i am at it ill measure the dipstick i really appreciate the help fellas i drive a diesel pick up so this new hot rod crap is new to me and my nephew, it didnt seem to have a deep sump oil pan but still it was very little oil from a normal vehicle once again thanks alot i am sure i will be back with more mustang drama
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Eh... I wouldn't call myself all that, I've been on here way way less than in the past. But thanks for the kind words.

Yeah he needs to be damn sure he isn't running the thing at half oil capacity. That'll turn into a bad time real fast.
If he runs it at half capacity he will get the chance to learn more than he wants about the engine. It will fry bearings, cams, lifters, and every other moving part.

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i will do it scott i knew it wasnt right it couldn t be ill put six quarts in it and while i am at it ill measure the dipstick i really appreciate the help fellas i drive a diesel pick up so this new hot rod crap is new to me and my nephew, it didnt seem to have a deep sump oil pan but still it was very little oil from a normal vehicle once again thanks alot i am sure i will be back with more mustang drama
Bring it on. Some of us enjoy the challenge.

As for the dipstick, the tube could have broken and been replaced with a shorter one at some point.

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If the engine ever pops in my GT I will store and preserve it until I can bastardize it with a V10 or a 6.4 Hemi.

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old school

i know the old ones but this new generation of things ya never know i love the shelbys of old and all the muscle cars of old but the new stuff is a different animal
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What is the consensus? Status update is needed to stop my curioisity.

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29.25 inches from tip to the rim on the handle and its a "T" type handle there is a part no. on the stick its xr3e-6750-ba with 3 qts in it, it read at the top of the range but i put all 6 in today befor i did anything else
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29.25 inches from tip to the rim on the handle and its a "T" type handle there is a part no. on the stick its xr3e-6750-ba with 3 qts in it, it read at the top of the range but i put all 6 in today befor i did anything else
With 6 quarts in the pan, drill a 1/16" hole at the full point on the dipstick.

Something is not sitting as it should. I personally would need a picture to see what the oddity is.

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i was just looking over at corral.net another mustang forum and they have quite a bit of misguided info over there i just dont understand why is it so difficult for ford to make a proper length dipstic? according to them ford has changed lengths and amounts like crazy. i looked over there because i googled the part number on the stick and that is a link to it
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i was just looking over at corral.net another mustang forum and they have quite a bit of misguided info over there i just dont understand why is it so difficult for ford to make a proper length dipstic? according to them ford has changed lengths and amounts like crazy. i looked over there because i googled the part number on the stick and that is a link to it
Interesting.

I am curious to know why the belt length on the car you are working on is a different length than it should be.

If it is shorter the car could have underdrive pullies. If it's longer there are a lot of questions in my mind.

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yea i am really confused on all this revvv if you get a chance put that dipstick part no. up and google it and one of the links was to another forum read what they had to say about it if ya want someone said it was superceded by another dipstic part number heck even a vw beetle takes 4 qts of oil. my nephew is off at maine corp duty this weekend i dont know if the new belt was longer or shorter but they gave him a 97 belt and it fit thats all i know, i also dont know what kind of moron looked up the belt number either
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From 1999-2001 the Ford part number should be 1R3Z-6750-BA.

I have an 02 GT, and apparently there is a difference somewhere. I have no idea what or where the difference is.

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