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Old 02-14-2018, 11:26 AM   #1
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Victor Jr. install

hey guys, so I recently purchased a daily driver so that means ive now been doing more to my mustang mods wise. just finished up installing my new koni struts and some cosmetics. on to the next part of the project I'm going to be installing a Victor Jr. intake on it. got mmr fuel rails and the adaptor plate so I can still use my 78mm bbk throttle body/plenum. also got an aluminum fps adaptor as I was told I'll need one. also have new felpro gaskets I'll be using now I'm getting the intake so I can start this. as I said, I now have a daily so this can take a few days it doesn't matter. can someone whose done the intake give me some instruction on how I'm going to plumb these new rails in? what kind of fittings will I need and kinda how to go about it and also how and where to mount this fps on to the new rails? and what kind of bolts do I need to get to put the intake on I know I need shorter ones. I am capable of doing the job just need instruction on how to plumb these rails in thanks to whoever can help me. yes I know the intake does nothing on a stock car but besides the intake I'm full bolt ons geared and cammed and in time I will be super charging the car but thats gonna be a little bit so this intake will be a good upgrade for me i think it'll make power even as it is now with no boost. so if anyone can help me out thank you much.

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You will need 8an o- ring fittings for the MMR rails

Also MMR sells everything you need to make this work, vs trying to piece it together.


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Also are you still on the NPI heads?

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no it's an 01 gt it's a factory PI car. has a Windsor bottom and Romeo heads. the car has 125k on it I know it has a Windsor bottom because it has an 8 bolt flange on the crank for the flywheel and I believe only Windsor motors had the 8 bolt cast crank? and I know it has Romeo heads due to valve cover bolts and the cam caps are bridged together unlike Windsor heads. so idk how many miles this motor has because it seems like it's been apart plus the block is painted red so you know it's been out before

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no it's an 01 gt it's a factory PI car. has a Windsor bottom and Romeo heads. the car has 125k on it I know it has a Windsor bottom because it has an 8 bolt flange on the crank for the flywheel and I believe only Windsor motors had the 8 bolt cast crank? and I know it has Romeo heads due to valve cover bolts and the cam caps are bridged together unlike Windsor heads. so idk how many miles this motor has because it seems like it's been apart plus the block is painted red so you know it's been out before

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Ok your bio says 96

Also you will need to plumb in a return line to the tank. Since your car is return-less

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oh that was my old mustang that got wrecked I have an 01 gt now

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and really? I never heard of having to do that why would I have to do that

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and is there a way I can get these rails plumbed in without buying mmrs kit? the kit is 250 bucks that id rather not spend if I don't need to

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and is there a way I can get these rails plumbed in without buying mmrs kit? the kit is 250 bucks that id rather not spend if I don't need to

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Yea with some 8an 0-ringed fittings and building your lines.

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and is there a way I can get these rails plumbed in without buying mmrs kit? the kit is 250 bucks that id rather not spend if I don't need to

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Well, yes the kit is kind of pricey......but what is your time worth trying to find everything from 5 different places, and still trying to be sure you have all needed parts, and that every one of them is the right one?
My policy has always been “do it right the first time”, and I still have trouble not doing things over sometimes......get the kit......
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how much cheaper would it be for me to find all the parts myself? I feel like it would be much cheaper

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how much cheaper would it be for me to find all the parts myself? I feel like it would be much cheaper

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40-60 bucks cheaper

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this intake is getting expensive quick.. how much of a gain do people see with this? and do you feel it

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and do I really need to add a return line to my tank? noones ever told me this

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this intake is getting expensive quick.. how much of a gain do people see with this? and do you feel it

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With your setup it's not going to be verry beneficial, you will actually loose power down low.

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do I actually need to run a fuel line back to my tank? I never heard anyone needing to do that

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do I actually need to run a fuel line back to my tank? I never heard anyone needing to do that

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I'm a firm believer In doing stuff correctly. Also you want to run a blower eventually, so yes, Do it correctly.

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I'm going to buy the kit nut I don't understand how doing an intake swap on my car would be considered done "incorrectly" if I don't run a return line? I mean it's returnless from the factory what's the point in doing this?

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I'm going to buy the kit nut I don't understand how doing an intake swap on my car would be considered done "incorrectly" if I don't run a return line? I mean it's returnless from the factory what's the point in doing this?

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I'm just asking what the reason is how will it benefit me

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Would benefit you more to work on other stuff vs moving your powerband from low-mid to high. The stock intake is not restrictive. I'd put all this $$$$ into something that'll actually make the car faster.
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well that would make sense but I have already bought every thing I need but the intake so it's to late now. like I said I am planning on boosting it in the future

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Even with boosting it the stock intake is the best intake for you until you actually build the engine. And if you wind up going with a Kenne Bell or something then the intake is removed anyway.

I mean if you are set on doing it you do you... but don't expect a drastic difference. The car will pull harder up top but the PI engine redline is like 5800 before the stock cams fall on their face. It would make a way bigger difference pairing it with some MHS stage 2 cams and a degree and tune. Ppl with that combo pull to 6500 routinely and run pretty fast times. Not great MPH but 1/4 mile yes.
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my car is cammed. not 100% sure what kind I bought it like that but it's cammed

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It would be nice to know what cams you have now, especially if you are going boosted in the future. If I had a dime for every OP that told me:"yes the engine is rebuilt", "the clutch has low miles" etc etc, with out documentation........ who really knows what they have for sure without it and in your case even if cammed you really need the specs on them.
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the guy who had it before me didn't know what the car had he knew nothing I did a lot to it since I got it. I'm gonna pull the valve covers to do the gaskets and see if I can find a number or something on the cams but the car is 100% cammed

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You should always know What You are buying. I give all receipts, dyno sheets ect with every car I have sold.

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I bought it off a whole saler you expect him to know what it has he doesn't know cars and he didn't build it. I've found out a lot about the car and have done a lot to it

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I bought it off a whole saler you expect him to know what it has he doesn't know cars and he didn't build it. I've found out a lot about the car and have done a lot to it

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What's all done to it?

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suspension wise it has full length frame connectors eibach lowering springs Koni streets I just put on upper and lower control arms 10.5 inch bullet wheels in the rear. lots of cosmetics no need to really list them though. it's a 3650 car with a steeda tri-x exedy stage 2 clutch and lightened aluminum fidanza flywheel I got put in. 4.10 gears bbk tuned length headers pypes off-road H pipe with magnapack catback egr delete. bbk 1 peice 78mm throttle body/plenum underdrive pullies 90mm lightning maf with cai and I belive some kind of stage 2 cams but not sure yet. that's a lot of it I'm missing a few things im sure but thats what I can think of off the top of my head

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If I had a nickel for every time someone said "it definitely has this mod"... I mean I hope it does... pull those covers and see what they are. And if it is cammed I'd get a degree wheel on it and make sure the person who did the install did it correctly. If its got the stock crank gear and not a TFS multi keyway gear then they weren't degreed.
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how do I see if there degreed correctly? I've never cammed a car before so I'm unsure of how deegreeing works

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Google it or look it up on youtube. There is no "seeing" if its correct, you have to put a degree wheel on it. But visually, again you'd have to look at the crank gear which would mean pulling the front cover. But pull a VC off and see if they look stock or not. What makes you so sure its cammed?
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I mean it's pretty obvious when you hear the car... and all my buddies have mustangs most of them being 99-04 gts with bolt ons and gears and my car gaps them all. so that and if you hear the car you can tell it's obvious

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