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Old 01-09-2009, 09:32 PM   #1
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Question pi swap aggitation...

been doing alot of reading on the pi swap. finding out more & more that i didn't know about. some say the crank & cam bolts need to be replaced. this true? also read that these bolts are tty like the heads. true? i'm guessing the exhaust manifolds from my car will work. seems to be a pain in the *** in rounding up the small items...i saw where parkway ford has a complete kit for around 1400.00. minus the heater tube & water pump nipple... also, do i HAVE to get a tune when all this is done? no tune shops around here. you guys that have done the swap, is all this worth it? maybe i should just look for a complete engine. i need some input from you all, good, bad, & the ugly truth. thanks guys...
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Re: pi swap aggitation...

Cam bolts don't have to be touched if you get heads with assembled heads (IE PI heads removed and sold as a whole) Also I believe they are TTY, but I also recall seeing somewhere APR makes a set that are not TTY, even if the bolts are torque to yield, it's not too difficult.. torque to proper spec, then turn a set # of degrees

crank bolts don't need to be touched unless you're replacing the crank for some reason -and I would say.. you could run the car without a tune, it'd probably handle it fine, OBD II adjusts fuel and timing based off of air/fuel (O2 and MAF ) BUT in your case its' basing it off the non PI motor, so you would get the best gains with a tune, for sure
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:55 PM   #3
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thanks man. reason i said crank bolt is i was thinking about changin the timing chains while i was at it... oh yeah, it's got 140k on it..
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thanks man. reason i said crank bolt is i was thinking about changin the timing chains while i was at it... oh yeah, it's got 140k on it..
Timing chain should be fine, wouldn't hurt to replace the tensioners while you're in there, though, those fail a lot more often than timing chains

The balancer is coming off regardless to get the timing cover off, you don't have to touch the crank bolts in either case (just the one going into the crank for the balancer - that's NOT tty)
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Re: pi swap aggitation...

the crank bolt is about 7 bucks or so from ford and the nipple was about the same price. u would really benifit from the tune but i am running without one now and im running rich as hell and its been about a year. get the head assemblys with the camshafts, the ford racing head changing kit because its the cheapest set ull find for it. it comes with head gaskets, head bolts, dipstick tube, and exhaust manifold gaskets. ull need to buy the timing cover gasket set, valve cover gaskets and the intake gaskets. i did the swap myself, so if u need help, let me know man.
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Re: pi swap aggitation...

If you find a better price on ARP 4.6 head studs than $470.00, would you mind posting it?
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