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Old 02-06-2012, 07:19 PM   #1
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Alright so I saw a zex wet kit today on craigslist for a good price. I have a mostly stock v6 (cai, exhaust, and tune) i just read the nitrous article on facebook, but still had a few questions. Is it really even safe to run it without a dynotune? I have the sf3/x3 tuner with tunes, so will that be good enough? Also, my car his nearing 100k miles...still safe to do a major mod like nitrous?
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I ran a 75 shot of nitrous on my 4.0 up until 90,000 miles - then pulled the nitrous off and put the Xcharger Xtreme on the car. Sits with 195,300 today, still running strong. I was using the Zex kit as well, easy to install, but running the lines from the trunk was a pain laying on my back with the car up on jack stands in the driveway.

My tuner (Lidio at Alternative Auto) said he didn't recommend more than the 75 shot - and I had him set up a nitrous specific tune for me for safety.
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Alright, well thats good news! I'm thinking of making it my summer project/mod. Did you have to put it on a dyno? Or did he just write the tune? Or datalogging...?
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Put your car on a dyno and have it professionally tuned. A canned tune isn't bad for a minor bolt-on car, but on a car with nitrous definitely pay the money for a real tune. Every car is different and a tune is alot cheaper than a new engine.
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Lidio dyno tuned my car - spent some time to make sure the AFR was correct and made some more adjustments. After a couple of hours in the shop it was time to road test it in the area behind the shop that he uses. That first time the nitrous hit was something.
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Ok...how much was the dyno? I know they aren't cheap, and it will vary some, but around $100 an hour? Also, how does it run on a tune for nitrous when most of the time nitrous idn't being used...?
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It was $100 an hour, but Lidio gave me a break and treated it simply as a tune update so I didn't have to pay for all the dyno time - he tuned my car originally.

I had him do a specific tune for nitrous and he left my daily driving tune on the car. It was okay if I left the nitrous tune on coming home from the track, but like Lidio said for naturally aspirated driving it had some compromises. So a second tune made sense.
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Hm...where in MI do you live? (checked your profile...not a stalker haha) if its close enough, maybe he would be able to tune mine? I just don't know of any dyno's anywhere close to me, and it would be nice to use someone who has already tuned a 4.0 with nitrous.

When you say "compromises" does that mean a little lost performence, or would it be bad on the engine to DD on the nitrous tune?
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Alternative Auto is in Chesterfield (between Port Huron and Detroit) Alternative Auto Peformance | Ford and GM Performance Experts

The compromise means that for daily driving you lose some performance characteristics and you leave some on the table for track use of nitrous. The compromise goes both ways.

It isn't bad on the engine, it just doesn't respond the same - so better off having a daily driving tune and a track tune. That way you can have the full performance for the track and full daily driving performance.
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The compromise means that for daily driving you lose some performance characteristics and you leave some on the table for track use of nitrous. The compromise goes both ways.

It isn't bad on the engine, it just doesn't respond the same - so better off having a daily driving tune and a track tune. That way you can have the full performance for the track and full daily driving performance.
Sounds like what I would want is a chip, so I can switch tunes without waiting like I would have to for my tuner...hm...well, thanks for all the help!
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For the S197 you use your tuner (SCT is what Lidio tunes with, as do 99% of the tuners) - we don't use the chips like the earlier cars.

Changing the tune isn't that difficult - plug in, choose the tune, upload, done.
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For the S197 you use your tuner (SCT is what Lidio tunes with, as do 99% of the tuners) - we don't use the chips like the earlier cars.

Changing the tune isn't that difficult - plug in, choose the tune, upload, done.
I didn't know that the chips were just for older cars...I thougt they had both. But yeah, i'v changed my tune plenty of times haha...
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The older chip systems do have some advantages - a friend with a 94 (I think) GT has a box that he just has to flip a switch at the track and he changes the tune. I forget how many chips he has, but one is for his nitrous tune.

The SCT though just takes a little longer is all.
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