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Old 04-22-2012, 10:25 PM   #1
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Jacks, jack stands and late model Mustangs

First of all: UGH!! I bought a caliper paint kit and fully intended to use it this weekend, but couldn't get the car off the ground because 1) no jack came with mine because no spare came with it because I got the Performance Package and 2) the jacking points's holes in the plastic molding are too small to clear the pad on my hydraulic jack!

Really, Ford? Really?? Some days I miss my truck: Put something, anything you want, under a frame rail. Done.

Anyway, my jack has a fixed head, so I guess I'll have to get an OEM scissor jack off eBay or from Ford. Not just for this but for rotating the tires. But seeing how the jack points have vertical lips...Will regular jack stands work, at least? Or will the lips buckle resting on a flat surface?
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Those are what's called pinch welds, they are actually incredibly sturdy. You can lift up on any point of them that you want and they won't buckle. Any car with the uni-body design has them.
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I think his complaint is that the plate from the jack is wider than the cut out on the skirt so the plate would press the under/inner side of the skirt causing some damage. Which it does. I just deal with it because it is under the car.
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Jack off k member and rear diff. Problem solved
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Jack off k member and rear diff. Problem solved
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Jack off k member and rear diff. Problem solved
I was thinking about the k member too. But the manual specifically states not to use the diff so it only solved half the problem. Dunno why they say not to; seems the best place to do it.

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Those are what's called pinch welds, they are actually incredibly sturdy. You can lift up on any point of them that you want and they won't buckle. Any car with the uni-body design has them.
Awesome -- Thanks! My regular jack stands it is, then.

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I think his complaint is that the plate from the jack is wider than the cut out on the skirt so the plate would press the under/inner side of the skirt causing some damage. Which it does. I just deal with it because it is under the car.
Yeah, I was afraid they'll crack or splinter or something -- How bad is it?
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It's a solid rear axle so it won't hurt nothing!.. Just be sure it won't slip off that's all!.. I do it all the time on mine, and I know the newer cars axle has to be as strong if not stronger!..
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Yeah, I was afraid they'll crack or splinter or something -- How bad is it?
It presses up. I have a few scattered cracks but I jack there then place jack stands under the car not at the pinch welds though. I place under the body under the long rails under the car. My jack stands cups around them like a glove. Now, if I had to have the car off the ground on all four, I would definitely lift at the sides.

I have had my car roll off jack stands when under the axle when I was putting relocation brackets on. Very scary.
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It's a solid rear axle so it won't hurt nothing!.. Just be sure it won't slip off that's all!.. I do it all the time on mine, and I know the newer cars axle has to be as strong if not stronger!..
Their concern is the jack head will put pressure on the diff cover breaking the seal and causing it to leak. Just make sure the jack is not touching the cover and is nice and sturdy under the pumpkin.

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It presses up. I have a few scattered cracks but I jack there then place jack stands under the car not at the pinch welds though. I place under the body under the long rails under the car. My jack stands cups around them like a glove. Now, if I had to have the car off the ground on all four, I would definitely lift at the sides.

I have had my car roll off jack stands when under the axle when I was putting relocation brackets on. Very scary.
About a month ago mine slipped off my jack (using cross member) when lowering it off the jack stands and punched a whole in the oil pan....not very much fun.
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Their concern is the jack head will put pressure on the diff cover breaking the seal and causing it to leak. Just make sure the jack is not touching the cover and is nice and sturdy under the pumpkin.

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About a month ago mine slipped off my jack (using cross member) when lowering it off the jack stands and punched a whole in the oil pan....not very much fun.
When I unbolted the drivers side LCA the axle swung outward toward the rear of the car, not allowing the LCA to reach the mounting holes by about a foot. It ALMOST fell when I tried to pull the axle back. I believe this was caused due to a passenger side LCA from J & M that was slightly off. Since I had a ***** putting that side on. Upon releasing the drivers side, the pressure it had must have swung out.

My friend ran around and pushed the car forward and it teetered back onto the stands. It never quite hit the ground.
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Their concern is the jack head will put pressure on the diff cover breaking the seal and causing it to leak. Just make sure the jack is not touching the cover and is nice and sturdy under the pumpkin.

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About a month ago mine slipped off my jack (using cross member) when lowering it off the jack stands and punched a whole in the oil pan....not very much fun.
I assumed that they would not be using the diff cover to jack the car up with!.. Lol. As that would be pretty dumb!... Lol
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For tires jack from k and the diff. theres a flat spot behind the pumpkin. i use jack stands on the frame rails only. if you really are having issues get a set of sturdy subframe connectors. jack from them.

I should add... You can pretty easily get a lo profile jack under the frame rails to lift the car too... ive had to do that as well. for higher lifts, i drive the car up on jack stands then lift. safer and your jack placement is easier.
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Yes it would, but its been done before. Now they just say don't use the diff at all. There is a lot of stuff that ford says not to do to help protect their cars from dumb people.
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Re: Jacks, jack stands and late model Mustangs

buy a good low profile jack, even the one in the trunk (if it had one) would be a POS anyway.

I also would recommend buying some 2x10 pieces of wood, cutting them in staggering pieces so you can drive your car up on it, three high overall then you can jack it up MUCH easier and put it on stands.
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When I unbolted the drivers side LCA the axle swung outward toward the rear of the car...My friend ran around and pushed the car forward and it teetered back onto the stands. It never quite hit the ground.
And then you changed your drawers?
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I've had one fall completely off stands with no wheels on. Always block the tires. Always
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I've had one fall completely off stands with no wheels on. Always block the tires. Always
What kind of damage did that do?
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None actually. Bent the dust shields back out and never had a problem out of it
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