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Old 10-24-2012, 11:29 PM   #71
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i dont need the loan i got enough money saved up, im just going to finance it instead. im still deciding if i should wait to see the '14..... all the rumors are saying its going to be minor upgrade with more appearance option. i dont like the '12 look, matter of fact i was not into mustang look at all until i saw the new aggressive look on the '13. thats when i say to myself i want a mustang before that i wanted a lancer but too expensive and cheap build/performance, thought about the evolution but it was far out of my price range. really liked the lancer car look........sexy. email was a complete failure for ford dealership in my city, send in multiple quote requests and not one returned. it would be nice and alot easier just negotiate through email, less stress/time than actually being there. the day i test drive the car they didnt have my color, so i had to drive a grabber blue v6 which was okay, kinda girly in my eyes. i asked for a black one with less than 10 mileage, sales guy told me he can order me one in 6 weeks. which sounds great but most importantly he was not wiling to negotiate the sticker price. ima try another ford dealership in my area
Great to hear you have the finance/cash in order. Only way to get under 10 is most likely to order, test drives tend to put miles on, my dealer let me test drive a 12 before ordering, took it on a 15mile loop.

Negotiating an order is real tough, don't pay over invoice, which you can ask to see. You can also try and get out of the documentation fee and dealer prep, which are dealer charges. Also find out if they would throw in any cheap dealer installed items like stripes or all season floor matts. Some dealers offer free lifetime oil changes and annual state inspection (at least in PA). They'll work for you if they want the sale. I got age discrimination at two dealers: "young guy, cool car, he'll pay full price." Not a chance, their lucky I don't have time/space to change my oil myself.

Try a couple dealers, you can always get service at your local after the purchase, service is where dealers actually make money. They might give a better deal if they know you'll be back for service.

I like the evo too, but build quality kinda sucked and a buddy of mine destroyed the head on his in 30kmi.

I wonder what 14 will look like, if there are any visible cosmetic changes, that makes 13 a pretty special car in my opinion. I agree, the aggressive styling cues from the 500 make the six look bad ***, main reason I sold my bmw, other then cost of repaires draining my wallet almost monthly.

sounds like your well put together, I don't mean to say things you already know, just saying what I wish someone would have told me when I bought my first car.
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Great to hear you have the finance/cash in order. Only way to get under 10 is most likely to order, test drives tend to put miles on, my dealer let me test drive a 12 before ordering, took it on a 15mile loop.

Negotiating an order is real tough, don't pay over invoice, which you can ask to see. You can also try and get out of the documentation fee and dealer prep, which are dealer charges. Also find out if they would throw in any cheap dealer installed items like stripes or all season floor matts. Some dealers offer free lifetime oil changes and annual state inspection (at least in PA). They'll work for you if they want the sale. I got age discrimination at two dealers: "young guy, cool car, he'll pay full price." Not a chance, their lucky I don't have time/space to change my oil myself.

Try a couple dealers, you can always get service at your local after the purchase, service is where dealers actually make money. They might give a better deal if they know you'll be back for service.

I like the evo too, but build quality kinda sucked and a buddy of mine destroyed the head on his in 30kmi.

I wonder what 14 will look like, if there are any visible cosmetic changes, that makes 13 a pretty special car in my opinion. I agree, the aggressive styling cues from the 500 make the six look bad ***, main reason I sold my bmw, other then cost of repaires draining my wallet almost monthly.

sounds like your well put together, I don't mean to say things you already know, just saying what I wish someone would have told me when I bought my first car.
totally agree, negotiating is probably the hardest part in the whole buying car process. your are spot on when you said "young guy, cool car, he'll pay full price." thats how i felt when i try to negotiate, salesman assume i went in and didnt do any homework. also thanks for the heads up on the fees that i can avoid, did not know that it could save me hundreds. ima try another dealer about 20min way this or next week. if it doesnt work out, i guess have to do it last 2 weeks of the year(hopefully mayan thing dont come true lol) where they really eager to make sales to clear the lot.
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I'd skip the auto and jump for a premium... The cluster display is cool and leather is a great reselling point. Plus upgraded sound system. That's a lot for the money. Manual is easy enough to learn if you don't know, try and learn on a friends/relatives if you can though.

Just my opinion! Some people, my wife, just dislike shifting.
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I'd skip the auto and jump for a premium... The cluster display is cool and leather is a great reselling point. Plus upgraded sound system. That's a lot for the money. Manual is easy enough to learn if you don't know, try and learn on a friends/relatives if you can though.

Just my opinion! Some people, my wife, just dislike shifting.
i have seen all the feature in a base model, im okay with it. premium is too much for me. im not planning to sale the car...........well at least for a long time since it going to be my only car. i just dont like manual, i prefer one of my hand and leg free while driving. i have seen my friends driving manual cars and it does not look fun.
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Shifting can be fun, more so than an auto. After a while it becomes second natures and you don't even think about it. It does have drawbacks if you do anything besides drive while cruising down the road.

Anyway, get what you want. That's the whole point. If I could have afforded a Premium myself, I'd have forgone the creature comforts and got a base GT.
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Winkawak the Mayans just ran out of Rock is all and the calendar just starts over. You'll have plenty of time to enjoy your Stang, God willing.
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Shifting can be fun, more so than an auto. After a while it becomes second natures and you don't even think about it. It does have drawbacks if you do anything besides drive while cruising down the road.

Anyway, get what you want. That's the whole point. If I could have afforded a Premium myself, I'd have forgone the creature comforts and got a base GT.
I agree completely. I did notice that the GT, at least in NJ, was an additional $80/mo for insurance, otherwise I'd have a base GT like you said. Lol.
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Picking up tomorrow a 2013 V6 Premium, Deep Impact Blue w/Perf Pkge, I think I got a great deal, vehicle MSRP at $31300, payed $26.900 after discount and rebates !
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Picking up tomorrow a 2013 V6 Premium, Deep Impact Blue w/Perf Pkge, I think I got a great deal, vehicle MSRP at $31300, payed $26.900 after discount and rebates !
Wow that is a superb deal. Make sure to posts pics once you can!
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Picking up tomorrow a 2013 V6 Premium, Deep Impact Blue w/Perf Pkge, I think I got a great deal, vehicle MSRP at $31300, payed $26.900 after discount and rebates !
great deal! what were the discount and rebates?
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great deal! what were the discount and rebates?
$2500 in rebates ($1500 cash back and $1000 lease conquest),
not sure of how much $$ was the discount, I do know they went into the hold back, I also had a trade with some equity ($500) and about $1510 tax savings from trade.
Total out the door incl taxes was $26953 + $395 for a remote starter.

A friend who was a salesman for Ford told me it was a great deal.
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I'm a little jelly of that deal!
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Picking up tomorrow a 2013 V6 Premium, Deep Impact Blue w/Perf Pkge, I think I got a great deal, vehicle MSRP at $31300, payed $26.900 after discount and rebates !
Very good deal. You'll love it!
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Wow beautiful. That is my favorite set up MCA and performance packge...well done
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I got the same car very nice i paid 29,490 wit taxes.
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does the v6 base model have a car charger of some sort?
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If you mean a DC outlet, there are two. One in dash, seemingly for GPS/radar and one in the center console for other things. Music, phone, what have you.
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Yeah that was a good price. You can't beat that. But if you look hard enough you can usually get a very good deal buying used with like 8-15k miles. Especially if the mustang is at a gmc dealer lol. Some morans would actually trade a beast in for a piece with a moon roof
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Only ones I usually see traded in anywhere are '10s. Wonder why?
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As a seasoned shaker 500 owner who on a few occasions likes to blast it it's okay.

Pros: Pretty clear and loud for a factory system, 2 in door subs, and 6 speakers, (4 front, 2 rear) technically Ford says 8 with counting the subs.

Cons: Low bass, a little under powered sometimes.

Over all I'd get the shaker again and take out the head unit and throw in 2 subs in the back. Oh yeah that's what I'm going to do soon.

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+1 I was like that at first. Not too hard on the gas, easy off the line, but as time goes on, you end up driving like you stole it! Haha
I did a stupid thing and wired my alpine r to the rear deck speakers. Just got bored really and wanted to see if it really passed power along to the sub. I turned the setting to half rear and the bass to 4. It shook the mirror and it sounded descent actually. But with that came the rattle. Dynomat the doors, roof, trunk, and somehow the mirror? I broke my mirror and windshield with this sub so I'm not surprised. I agree it needs more thump and low end.
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I did a stupid thing and wired my alpine r to the rear deck speakers. Just got bored really and wanted to see if it really passed power along to the sub. I turned the setting to half rear and the bass to 4. It shook the mirror and it sounded descent actually. But with that came the rattle. Dynomat the doors, roof, trunk, and somehow the mirror? I broke my mirror and windshield with this sub so I'm not surprised. I agree it needs more thump and low end.
Haha that's awesome,Coty! Not so awesome about the windshield and glass.
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Haha that's awesome,Coty! Not so awesome about the windshield and glass.
It was on my 02 and the mirror just broke off first then the windshield flexed. I already have one chip in my 11 and I don't want to make it worse. I live my bass but I love my windshield and being able to see behind me more lol
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after negotiating with the internet manager, the best she can do was $24,190 for a v6 with auto transmission. the price is 1k over the true market price on websites that i checked. this price had the 1.5k incentive included. i think this price is crazy, the guy above me had a premium and a performance package for 26k while my base model with auto cost me 24k. ima try another ford dealership. anyway a question about the visibility, hows the rear visibility when backing up? also the front visibility do you see the middle of your hood? when i test drive i only can see the end of the hood.
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after negotiating with the internet manager, the best she can do was $24,190 for a v6 with auto transmission. the price is 1k over the true market price on websites that i checked. this price had the 1.5k incentive included. i think this price is crazy, the guy above me had a premium and a performance package for 26k while my base model with auto cost me 24k. ima try another ford dealership. anyway a question about the visibility, hows the rear visibility when backing up? also the front visibility do you see the middle of your hood? when i test drive i only can see the end of the hood.
That sucks. Could be the area too. Bigger dealers can do better deals. Base models are hard to talk down, try talking down a model with a few options. Good luck!
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That sucks. Could be the area too. Bigger dealers can do better deals. Base models are hard to talk down, try talking down a model with a few options. Good luck!
well, manual is cheaper though. i paid $25,056.40 out the door including taxes and everything with PP, recaro seats, man transmission and i talked them into throwin in Pony mats

I love the recaro seats btw, very comfy, but 1800 (after talking them down) still is a bit expensive.....probably would have been almost 23k out the door without the recaro seats...

the only thing i'm really upset about is the gas milage. i was expecting 25 miles to the gallon, i'm getting closer to 20-21...and i'm not whalin away on it (but i'm not always babying it)
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well, manual is cheaper though. i paid $25,056.40 out the door including taxes and everything with PP, recaro seats, man transmission and i talked them into throwin in Pony mats

I love the recaro seats btw, very comfy, but 1800 (after talking them down) still is a bit expensive.....probably would have been almost 23k out the door without the recaro seats...

the only thing i'm really upset about is the gas milage. i was expecting 25 miles to the gallon, i'm getting closer to 20-21...and i'm not whalin away on it (but i'm not always babying it)
somethin is wrong with your gas mileage, shouldnt be that low
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well, manual is cheaper though. i paid $25,056.40 out the door including taxes and everything with PP, recaro seats, man transmission and i talked them into throwin in Pony mats

I love the recaro seats btw, very comfy, but 1800 (after talking them down) still is a bit expensive.....probably would have been almost 23k out the door without the recaro seats...

the only thing i'm really upset about is the gas milage. i was expecting 25 miles to the gallon, i'm getting closer to 20-21...and i'm not whalin away on it (but i'm not always babying it)
How many miles do you have on the car so far? I started getting better milage just over 1k. The other variable is your percentage of highway to city driving. Stepping on it will drastically lower your mpg. Hard not to step on it though. It is a Mustang after all.
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How many miles do you have on the car so far? I started getting better milage just over 1k. The other variable is your percentage of highway to city driving. Stepping on it will drastically lower your mpg. Hard not to step on it though. It is a Mustang after all.
from what i heard, even if you stomp the gas pedal on city/hwy you should average about 25
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from what i heard, even if you stomp the gas pedal on city/hwy you should average about 25
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I get 22 combined before intake. Worse after intake. Depends on your driving habit
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well, manual is cheaper though. i paid $25,056.40 out the door including taxes and everything with PP, recaro seats, man transmission and i talked them into throwin in Pony mats

I love the recaro seats btw, very comfy, but 1800 (after talking them down) still is a bit expensive.....probably would have been almost 23k out the door without the recaro seats...

the only thing i'm really upset about is the gas milage. i was expecting 25 miles to the gallon, i'm getting closer to 20-21...and i'm not whalin away on it (but i'm not always babying it)
Yeah, mine is a MCA with comfort, security, and the mats. Didn't get the recaro seats cause I wanted then heated. manual is more fun and saved enough money to get the mca.

I average 25 to 27, but stop lights can kill that. goes down to 22 in heavy traffic and stomping on it! Got 30 avg going from nj to nh.

Glad to hear you got the pp! I liked the mca wheels more though
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from what i heard, even if you stomp the gas pedal on city/hwy you should average about 25
I wish I can get 25. Probably do a light form of city driving. In town 8 mile commute to work. Just disappointed I'm not getting at least 25. But looooove the car.
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