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Old 11-04-2012, 03:54 AM   #106
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Only ones I usually see traded in anywhere are '10s. Wonder why?
This. I was looking for a 11+ Sterling Grey V6 Premium for months before ordering my 13', and within 500 miles all I found was 3 used ones. After looking up the vins on them only 1 was actually a premium, and was priced at $24,900. The others were listed as premiums, but the window stickers said they were base models.

Needless to say I gave up looking and ended up ordering my 2013. Got it for 26k out the door with pony package and heated seats. Pretty good IMO.
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from what i heard, even if you stomp the gas pedal on city/hwy you should average about 25
IME you have to baby the car to achieve that mpg or better. Jumping on the car severely decreases the mpg. Unfortunately, you don't get it both ways.
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A tune is a great way to lose mpg for the bit of hp gained. My mpg is really dropping in the cold weather. I will be lucky if I get 30mpg this tank.
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how much does mpg drops when performance package is equipped with v6?
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how much does mpg drops when performance package is equipped with v6?
Ford says 19/29. I do 100% city driving and I average 21.5 mpg. I am sure on the highway I could get 30+. The only thing that really affects the gas mileage is the 3.31 gear ratio, but that is a must have for the 3.7 IMHO.
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please answer my question above, also does the 19" wheel decrease mpg?
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:07 PM   #113
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Are those the stock lights?
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:14 PM   #114
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please answer my question above, also does the 19" wheel decrease mpg?
I did answer your question...I have the performance package. The gas mileage won't be noticeably different then the base model. Like I said, only thing that really affects the gas mileage is the 3.31 gear ratio. The 19" rims/tires will decrease mpg, but very slightly. For $1500 or whatever it costs, the performance package is a steal. I mean just the rims and tires alone are worth over $1500.
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I did answer your question...I have the performance package. The gas mileage won't be noticeably different then the base model. Like I said, only thing that really affects the gas mileage is the 3.31 gear ratio. The 19" rims/tires will decrease mpg, but very slightly. For $1500 or whatever it costs, the performance package is a steal. I mean just the rims and tires alone are worth over $1500.
The 19s increase your final drive ratio. It effectively drops your final gear ratio by 5.4%.

It helps mileage on the highway, but makes it harder to get going. Hurts city, helps highway, in theory. The 19/29 is with 17s on the stock, so the gearing helps ruin mileage...but the tires ruin the gearing and take away torque, essentially. If you ever see off reading Jeeps or work trucks, they often have little tires maximize the torque.
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You can use whatever rim size you want and find a tire with taller or thinner sidewalls and adjust the ratio. You can get almost identical ratios on 17" or 19" rims by doing that. Just use a tire calculator.
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You can use whatever rim size you want and find a tire with taller or thinner sidewalls and adjust the ratio. You can get almost identical ratios on 17" or 19" rims by doing that. Just use a tire calculator.
+1. The OD of the tires will be a negligible difference, the rotations per mile will not make a big difference. This keeps the speedometer correct. The milage difference comes from rotational mass, unsprung weight kills performance, the lighter the wheels the better the performance and possible mpg.

The 3.31 gears increase rpm about 20% for the speed your traveling at, and shows about 20% more torque for it. definitely a must have option IMO. I still average 31 mpg highway and 25mpg mixed going to work. I wouldn't worry about mpg with a mustang though, at least not the 1 or 2 mpg difference you'll see between 2.71 and 3.31 gears! This is a minimal negative impact option.

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You can use whatever rim size you want and find a tire with taller or thinner sidewalls and adjust the ratio. You can get almost identical ratios on 17" or 19" rims by doing that. Just use a tire calculator.
i see, i have no knowledge of tires what would the optimal ratio be for an all season tire on an 19"?
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i see, i have no knowledge of tires what would the optimal ratio be for an all season tire on an 19"?
Tire track calculates recommended sizes, and has free mounting and balancing for wheel packages.
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weird question
does 6 way adjustable seat goes up higher than 4 way?
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What kind of driving do you do? That will be a factor in real world mileage. Also, I have the stock gears, which give better mileage, and I haven't seen 30 mpg. Maybe you can get that on a highway without hills. I think that is achievable going down hill.

The performance pkg will give you more power to get going in a drag race. For that you will sacrifice a little mileage. One thread suggested 2 to 3 mpg less.

Most of my driving is on the highway. I drive 70 miles a day on the highway and 10 on back roads to my house.
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What kind of driving do you do? That will be a factor in real world mileage. Also, I have the stock gears, which give better mileage, and I haven't seen 30 mpg. Maybe you can get that on a highway without hills. I think that is achievable going down hill.

The performance pkg will give you more power to get going in a drag race. For that you will sacrifice a little mileage. One thread suggested 2 to 3 mpg less.

Most of my driving is on the highway. I drive 70 miles a day on the highway and 10 on back roads to my house.
You should be seeing 30+, it really depends how you drive. Took a 110 mile trip the other day, 35 mpg going up, 38 mpg coming back on the highway. The cold weather, near me, is ruining mileage. This was my worst tank in months, only 30.01 mpg for the tank. I usually drive more city, and the engine warm up time is killing me right now.
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so after 2 days of negotiating, i finally placed an order for the 13' v6 auto & pp. dealer told me should be here in 6-8 weeks. if im lucky ill get it on 25th(yay christmas) if im not it will be the first week of new year.
its black on black btw...............so sexy and aggressive.
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so after 2 days of negotiating, i finally placed an order for the 13' v6 auto & pp. dealer told me should be here in 6-8 weeks. if im lucky ill get it on 25th(yay christmas) if im not it will be the first week of new year.
its black on black btw...............so sexy and aggressive.
That sounds awesome and would make an even better Christmas gift
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awesome deal

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$2500 in rebates ($1500 cash back and $1000 lease conquest),
not sure of how much $$ was the discount, I do know they went into the hold back, I also had a trade with some equity ($500) and about $1510 tax savings from trade.
Total out the door incl taxes was $26953 + $395 for a remote starter.

A friend who was a salesman for Ford told me it was a great deal.
I am new on this forum, I am currently looking to buy the 2013 V6 and you got a sweet deal, can you point me to the dealership? I am in california btw, thanks and congrats on your Mustang
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You should be seeing 30+, it really depends how you drive. Took a 110 mile trip the other day, 35 mpg going up, 38 mpg coming back on the highway. The cold weather, near me, is ruining mileage. This was my worst tank in months, only 30.01 mpg for the tank. I usually drive more city, and the engine warm up time is killing me right now.
I would welcome it. The best I've seen is 27.5 and I have yet to step on it. I keep the mpg screen on and record all fill ups in a journal. By the end of the week I average 23-25. I have yet to drive aggressively. I let the car accelerate slowly on the highway. Just not seeing 30 or more.

Congrats on your order. Get yourself a pressure washer. Black really shows the dirt. Mine is Deep Impact Blue and it shows the dirt too. I've had the car two months now and have washed it more than any other car I have owned.
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I would welcome it. The best I've seen is 27.5 and I have yet to step on it. I keep the mpg screen on and record all fill ups in a journal. By the end of the week I average 23-25. I have yet to drive aggressively. I let the car accelerate slowly on the highway. Just not seeing 30 or more.

Congrats on your order. Get yourself a pressure washer. Black really shows the dirt. Mine is Deep Impact Blue and it shows the dirt too. I've had the car two months now and have washed it more than any other car I have owned.
Get to speed quickly, and get to 6 th as soon as possible, and just try not to ever stop, keep your momentum.
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i just came from allmustangs and one of the member said the order was closed on Nov 1st. im starting to worry if its true, if it is i dont think the dealership i order from aware of this..............anyone have any information regarding to this?
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I would welcome it. The best I've seen is 27.5 and I have yet to step on it. I keep the mpg screen on and record all fill ups in a journal. By the end of the week I average 23-25. I have yet to drive aggressively. I let the car accelerate slowly on the highway. Just not seeing 30 or more.

Congrats on your order. Get yourself a pressure washer. Black really shows the dirt. Mine is Deep Impact Blue and it shows the dirt too. I've had the car two months now and have washed it more than any other car I have owned.
Dang my old GT gets 21 mpg when I cruise no aggressive driving
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Get to speed quickly, and get to 6 th as soon as possible, and just try not to ever stop, keep your momentum.
I live in New York. There's no way to keep a steady speed around here. Where do you live?
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I live in New York. There's no way to keep a steady speed around here. Where do you live?
Cleveland, ohio. What part of new york?
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Just took a 900 mile trip in the stang, 34.3 mpg with cc at speed limit to MD, about 420 miles, way back to OH was 470+ miles using fuel efficiency techniques (speeding) got me 35.9 mpg.

I know these numbers are low, and that is from driving up and down those hills in PA. Here is the whole detail in my fuel log.
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I just drove across Canada 4500km's in my brand new 2013 with 3.33.1's where my average speed was about 100km/h and I averaged 8L/100km's. which for you Yankee's is roughly 30mpg. If you want better than that buy a hybrid. I was expecting much worse. I am looking for more aggressive gearing now.
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I just drove across Canada 4500km's in my brand new 2013 with 3.33.1's where my average speed was about 100km/h and I averaged 8L/100km's. which for you Yankee's is roughly 30mpg. If you want better than that buy a hybrid. I was expecting much worse. I am looking for more aggressive gearing now.
They don't make a hybrid Mustang, and I did get better than that....
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Cleveland, ohio. What part of new york?
I drive from Putnam to Southern Westchester every day.
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anyone here experiencing advantrac problems while driving? i notice the car computer slam the break on my right rear wheel while i was performing a left u turn. i was turning alittle aggressive but not too much.
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anyone here experiencing advantrac problems while driving? i notice the car computer slam the break on my right rear wheel while i was performing a left u turn. i was turning alittle aggressive but not too much.
Its what it does when it feels wheel spin . Its anticipating traction loss so it cuts power before it happens
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it seems the feature is super sensitive and tend to intervene too much
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That's why i always have it off unless its raining
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anyone here experiencing advantrac problems while driving? i notice the car computer slam the break on my right rear wheel while i was performing a left u turn. i was turning alittle aggressive but not too much.
Depending on road conditions, road type, weather conditions, time of day, familiarity with the road, so on, I turn off the TC as soon as I get rolling. It is usually off after I shift to second pulling out of my drive.

Usually at the first light I turn off the 2nd TC, I feel like when I engine brake the car reacts a bit to it with TC1 on, like it is using the rear brakes or something. I downshift to save brakes! Lol
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