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Old 10-17-2013, 09:45 PM   #1
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2010 v6 vs 2011 v6

I've been wondering what it would take for a 4.0 v6 to beat the 3.7 without going f/I. I googled it and couldn't really find anything about it.
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40 lb ft of torque and 95 horses :p

But yeah jokes aside, you will need this extra torque if you wanna beat a 2011 in 1/4 mile. The fun begins after 3000 rpms in a 3.7, which could prove significant if the other racer does a quicker launch.

My idea would be a MPT tune, CAI and headers with cat back exhaust.
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I'd think you'd need more than that^
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Cams, ported heads, full bolt ons ( gears, tune, exhaust ect) good tires some weight reduction and a good driver
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^ or that extra cash, his 2010 and some loonies towards a 5.0 GT lol
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:51 PM   #6
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Cams, ported heads, full bolt ons ( gears, tune, exhaust ect) good tires some weight reduction and a good driver
It's amazing it takes all that just to beat the 3.7 stock!
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I've been wondering what it would take for a 4.0 v6 to beat the 3.7 without going f/I. I googled it and couldn't really find anything about it.
I would say its going to be tough because of the huge lack in HP and slight lack in torque of the 2010 V6 compared to the 2011 V6. My recommendations would be the following

93 MPT Tune
CAI
4:10 gears
Ceramic Headers
Off Road or Catted X Pipe
One piece aluminum driveshaft.

Remember, you have to make up 95 HP and 40 lbs torque. That's quite a bit. The key is you getting a quicker start off the line. The weak part of the 2011 V6 is it having 2:73 gears and does not come off the line hard. With the 4:10 gears in the 2010 you should accelerate way harder off the line and get ahead from jump. With the aluminum driveshaft your rotational mass will be cut down and that
will help with quicker off line acceleration.

Your gonna need to get ahead and get a good lead because when the 2011 V6 hits the 3k rpm's that's when the magic happens. Its gonna grow closer and closer in the quarter. I feel your pain bro. I purchased my 2011 back in October 2010 and a 10 model V6 was not even a thought. I would of gone with a 10 GT but at that time late into the end of the model season, I couldn't buy the Gt for the price of my 2011 V6. The dealers only had loaded 10 Gt's for around 36k. No way there was a base automatic GT that late into the season.
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:55 AM   #8
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Dang it's crazy how many improvements Ford made to the engine.
I remember when I drove my 07 I could beat my friends 12 off the line as long gone as I didn't spin the wheels. Both were stock. I did have rally stripes so that might have made it possible... Haha
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I'm positive a 4.0L will need more than a tune, cai, full exhaust, 4.10 gears and a driveshaft to run with a stock 3.7 with 2.73 gears.

Consider that the internal gear spacing on the MT82 is much closer in the lower gears than the T5.

Mt82 - T5
1st - 4.23 - 3.75
2nd - 2.53 - 2.19
3rd - 1.66 - 1.41
4th - 1.23 - 1.00

Even with 4.10s in the rear, it's not enough. The 4.0 v6 is simply a turd.

AM's 2005 v6 project car (same powertrain as 2010) dyno'd 159whp and 184wtq. With a CAI, exhaust and tune it put down 200whp and 250wtq. With a 100 shot, it put down 284whp and 349wtq. So, with all that done and the 100 shot it only puts down 24 more hp (100 more tq) at the wheels than a stock 3.7.

Also, according to Car and Driver, a 2010 V6 5 speed, went 0-60 in 6.6, 0-100 in 17.7 and 1/4 mile at 15.3 @ 93.

They ran a 2011 3.7 v6 with (I think 2.73 gears) went 0-60 in 5.4, 0-100 in 13.0 and 1/4 in 14.0 @ 104.

That's a lot of ground to cover, I would think everything mentioned before (tune, cai, full exhaust, 4.10 gears) and a 50 shot would be about equal with a stock 3.7.

One funny thing I noticed, the top speed on the 3.7 is limited to 113. The 4.0 is limited to 114. So technically the 4.0 is faster stock for stock..
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I'm positive a 4.0L will need more than a tune, cai, full exhaust, 4.10 gears and a driveshaft to run with a stock 3.7 with 2.73 gears.

Consider that the internal gear spacing on the MT82 is much closer in the lower gears than the T5.

Mt82 - T5
1st - 4.23 - 3.75
2nd - 2.53 - 2.19
3rd - 1.66 - 1.41
4th - 1.23 - 1.00

Even with 4.10s in the rear, it's not enough. The 4.0 v6 is simply a turd.

AM's 2005 v6 project car (same powertrain as 2010) dyno'd 159whp and 184wtq. With a CAI, exhaust and tune it put down 200whp and 250wtq. With a 100 shot, it put down 284whp and 349wtq. So, with all that done and the 100 shot it only puts down 24 more hp (100 more tq) at the wheels than a stock 3.7.

Also, according to Car and Driver, a 2010 V6 5 speed, went 0-60 in 6.6, 0-100 in 17.7 and 1/4 mile at 15.3 @ 93.

They ran a 2011 3.7 v6 with (I think 2.73 gears) went 0-60 in 5.4, 0-100 in 13.0 and 1/4 in 14.0 @ 104.

That's a lot of ground to cover, I would think everything mentioned before (tune, cai, full exhaust, 4.10 gears) and a 50 shot would be about equal with a stock 3.7.

One funny thing I noticed, the top speed on the 3.7 is limited to 113. The 4.0 is limited to 114. So technically the 4.0 is faster stock for stock..
Its tough to make up 95 HP unless one goes supercharger, turbo or nitrous.
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Sounds like it would just be easier to trade in for a 2011 up than going f/I on the 4.0

---------- Post added at 01:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:59 PM ----------

Sounds like it would be a lot easier to just trade up to 2011 + than go f/I on the 4.0
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There was one member on another Mustang site that used to have his signature state "Ford ripped us 2010 owners off". He was upset that he bought a new 2010, only to have the 2011's come out with the new V6 and V8's.
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There was one member on another Mustang site that used to have his signature state "Ford ripped us 2010 owners off". He was upset that he bought a new 2010, only to have the 2011's come out with the new V6 and V8's.
Theirs no one to blame except himself
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