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Old 11-28-2013, 10:42 PM   #351
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I know my Teksid is good for well over 1000hp if I ever got a wild hair up my *** to do that sort of build which I don't see happening.
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Dude you are a troll. I remember the ladt thread you came on in the 5.0 section. You do not know what your talking about


I'm no troll you like your 5.0 I like my 4.6 LIVE WITH IT for God sakes
this thread is after all 4.6 vs 5.0 just to remind you , I make my points
if you don't like them too bad ha... and sorry I do know what I'm talking about ,
your just too I love with my 5.0 and it's the best motor ever built ....... wrong.

I have shown you what the 4.6 is capable of live with it. Forged and blown
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Everdody is worried about hp with the new 5.0 y'all forget the weight part the 4.6 is lighter so I'll take my 4v 4.6 and save weight and run mod for mod with the new 5.0


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I'm no troll you like your 5.0 I like my 4.6 LIVE WITH IT for God sakes
this thread is after all 4.6 vs 5.0 just to remind you , I make my points
if you don't like them too bad ha... and sorry I do know what I'm talking about ,
your just too I love my 5.0 and it's the best motor ever built ....... wrong.

I have shown you what the 4.6 is capable of live with it. Forged and blown
she is a beast , termi style....



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Not sure who you are referring to , but if it's me my BLOWER has already been purchased I just don't drive my mustang in the winter to keep her MINT. And if I run into a 5.0 next year when the weather is nice and I pull her out of my garage I will laugh ...... with the upgrades I have purchased and sitting in my living room I will make close to 600 HP bye bye 5.0. And like I said before I could buy a 2014 GT but to be honest I really don't like the styling.
I'm going to agree with you on the styling. I don't like it that much, but that's my opinion I like the 05- 09 look more. And with everyone saying there 5.0 is faster than 4.6, come on ya it's true if stock. But are cars are older, but not like everyone is going to have same mobs so the 4.6 can beat a 5.0 just depending on its mods and driver
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I'm going to agree with you on the styling. I don't like it that much, but that's my opinion I like the 05- 09 look more. And with everyone saying there 5.0 is faster than 4.6, come on ya it's true if stock. But are cars are older, but not like everyone is going to have same mobs so the 4.6 can beat a 5.0 just depending on its mods and driver
Yes I love the styling of my car it is the closest thing to a 1967-68 Fastback GT but with modern handling and creature comforts to boot that being said of course a 4.6 can easily beat a 5.0 it all depends on what kinds of mods you are running ..... in the end all the stock 5.0 has is 420 hp not that hard to beat ...

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Yes I love the styling of my car it is the closest thing to a 1967-68 Fastback GT but with modern handling and creature comforts to boot that being said of course a 4.6 can easily beat a 5.0 it all depends on what kinds of mods you are running ..... in the end all the stock 5.0 has is 420 hp not that hard to beat ...

A supercharged 3v can loose to a full bolton 5.0. I had a 3v with a blower what a disappointment

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Im talking about stock motor 3v 10 psi and below
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Just to throw a hook in here, my stock boss has out ran many stock GT500s pre-13
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A supercharged 3v can loose to a full bolton 5.0. I had a 3v with a blower what a disappointment

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Im talking about stock motor 3v 10 psi and below


That is true yes , but boost can be turned up..... and motors can be forged
same goes for the 5.0 once forged it can run over 550 Hp safely... and to
me running 550-600 HP with stock internals at 7 to 9 psi boost is NOT a disappointment by any stretch of the imagination.

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That is true yes , but boost can be turned up..... and motors can be forged
same goes for the 5.0 once forged it can run over 550 Hp safely... and to
me running 560 HP with stock internals at 7 to 9 psi boost is NOT a disappointment by any stretch of the imagination.

Uhm the 5.0 was designed to run 550 safely without being forged, let's see that 4.6 do it.
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Uhm the 5.0 was designed to run 550 safely without being forged, let's see that 4.6 do it.
I'm pretty sure black on Whipple is close to those numbers on his 07 gt with stock internals.
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I'm pretty sure black on Whipple is close to those numbers on his 07 gt with stock internals.
There's an exception to every rule.
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Just to throw a hook in here, my stock boss has out ran many stock GT500s pre-13


Yes the stock gt500 with the 5.4 l 2012 and below produced 550 hp or less depending on year with the factory blower running at 9 to 10 psi , my mustang can make that same amount of power with a little bit lower boost 7 to 9 psi not that good for a 5.4 l vs my 4.6 way smaller displacement....
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Uhm the 5.0 was designed to run 550 safely without being forged, let's see that 4.6 do it.


The 4.6 3v can run up to 600 hp safely but that is the MAX.
Do I really have to re-post again ...... ok...

Similar to our 525 HP kit with the E-force, this system comes complete with JDM Custom Tuning by James D'Amore using the SCT XCAL3 Flash Device, Edebrock Cold air intake 15808, and NGK spark plugs. This time around the kit comes with larger 60lb injectors instead of the 39LB and the GT500 Ford Racing Fuel System M-9407-GT05 which supplies all the fuel to the engine that it will need while running 12 psi boost with the 3.25” pulley.

The addition of these components raises the power level of the Supercharger to 600 HP at the engine! This is the most you want to put through your stock motor internals. If you chose to forget your motor or go with a Team JDM 302E 3V Short Block you can raise the boost levels on this supercharger kit to over 17 psi, making over 700 HP!
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Yes the stock gt500 with the 5.4 l 2012 and below produced 550 hp or less depending on year with the factory blower running at 9 to 10 psi , my mustang can make that same amount of power with a little bit lower boost 7 to 9 psi not that good for a 5.4 l vs my 4.6 way smaller displacement....
And your car will be lighter as well. That's the downfall of the 5.4, it's heavy AF!
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And your car will be lighter as well. That's the downfall of the 5.4, it's heavy AF!
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Why is this even still going? Problem with the 3V is that ppl still want too much money for a nice 05-10 car with lower miles and you can get a very low mileage 2V for the price ppl want for a 3V with high miles. I can get a low mileage 2V all day for $6k-$8k, like 30k miles low which is what ppl seem to want for 3V cars in the 100K+ range.

For low mileage S197s ppl want mid-high $teens which you might as well just save a little more and get a Coyote. yes, the Coyote is a better engine, period which is why I don't know why this thread is still going on, I mean it isn't even a question. Yes they both can make big power, that is not in dispute. The Coyote will do it easier, for cheaper and ALL MOTOR but the upfront cost to get into one is prohibitive to a lot of ppl although its getting better fast.
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Why is this even still going? Problem with the 3V is that ppl still want too much money for a nice 05-10 car with lower miles and you can get a very low mileage 2V for the price ppl want for a 3V with high miles. I can get a low mileage 2V all day for $6k-$8k, like 30k miles low which is what ppl seem to want for 3V cars in the 100K+ range. For low mileage S197s ppl want mid-high $teens which you might as well just save a little more and get a Coyote. yes, the Coyote is a better engine, period which is why I don't know why this thread is still going on, I mean it isn't even a question. Yes they both can make big power, that is not in dispute. The Coyote will do it easier, for cheaper and ALL MOTOR but the upfront cost to get into one is prohibitive to a lot of ppl although its getting better fast.
The 4.6 vs 5.0 discussion will never cease as long as both sides have money for mods lol
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That is true yes , but boost can be turned up..... and motors can be forged
same goes for the 5.0 once forged it can run over 550 Hp safely... and to
me running 550-600 HP with stock internals at 7 to 9 psi boost is NOT a disappointment by any stretch of the imagination.

The Info you give is wrong every time. Its ridiculous man.
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The Info you give is wrong every time. Its ridiculous man.
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The 4.6 vs 5.0 discussion will never cease as long as both sides have money for mods lol
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The Info you give is wrong every time. Its ridiculous man.
What is wrong about it Rapinator .... enlighten me then....
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What actual experience do you or ppl you know have running stock internals at 600hp btw? Because I've seen bent rods and broken ring lands at much lower power levels then that and those tunes were good ones.

Again, I would not push the stock internals past 400-425whp.
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What actual experience do you or ppl you know have running stock internals at 600hp btw? Because I've seen bent rods and broken ring lands at much lower power levels then that and those tunes were good ones.

Again, I would not push the stock internals past 400-425whp.
I think he read it on the internet, so it has to be true. Bon jour
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What actual experience do you or ppl you know have running stock internals at 600hp btw? Because I've seen bent rods and broken ring lands at much lower power levels then that and those tunes were good ones.

Again, I would not push the stock internals past 400-425whp.


The safe number that you will read OVER and OVER again from various sources (forums, magazines, ask tuners) is 450 RWHP /550 Crank HP for the 3V 4.6 and I have read a lot that being said one needs to keep the boost below 10 psi and have
a pro tune. Sure there are guys who are running 500 -550 rwhp stock and some have for years but I wouldn't take the chance , I want my motor to last.

So anything beyond 450rwhp calls for forging of the internals just to be safe. Once forged of course the boost can be cranked up big time.

The kit I have will be in that range 550 to 560 Hp at the crank running my 3.5 pulley.
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The safe number that you will read OVER and OVER again from various sources (forums, magazines, ask tuners) is 450 RWHP /550 Crank HP for the 3V 4.6 and I have read a lot that being said one needs to keep the boost below 10 psi and have
a pro tune. Sure there are guys who are running 500 -550 rwhp stock and some have for years but I wouldn't take the chance , I want my motor to last.

So anything beyond 450rwhp calls for forging of the internals just to be safe. Once forged of course the boost can be cranked up big time.

The kit I have will be in that range 550 to 560 Hp at the crank running my 3.5 pulley.
Gotcha. I have to say having been there and done that, I think you are in for a rude awakening if you try to run those levels on a stock bottom end but its your money and there are factory freaks out there.
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I've been running 10 psi on the stock bottom end (4.6) for almost 2 years with a brenspeed email tune and I have no problems at all. I haven't had it on the dyno even though I should
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I've been running 10 psi on the stock bottom end (4.6) for almost 2 years with a brenspeed email tune and I have no problems at all. I haven't had it on the dyno even though I should
you have a blower with an email tune?
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you have a blower with an email tune?
If it's the tune that came with the blower and the rest is stock nothing wrong with it besides it's really safe and could pull more hp out of it
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I got a upgrade package from brenspeed that came with a sct tuner and get free tunes from them when I upgrade my my pulley. I know it is a very conservative tune and I could make more power with a dyno tune and new fuel pump and maf but I'm happy till I get the 326 stroker built
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I got a upgrade package from brenspeed that came with a sct tuner and get free tunes from them when I upgrade my my pulley. I know it is a very conservative tune and I could make more power with a dyno tune and new fuel pump and maf but I'm happy till I get the 326 stroker built
I am agreeing with you my be conservative but at least it's not going to f any thing up when you get the 326 you need to let us know the numbers you make
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It will be a while just trying to plan it all out.
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Know what you mean trying to save up for a pro charger right now
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I got a upgrade package from brenspeed that came with a sct tuner and get free tunes from them when I upgrade my my pulley. I know it is a very conservative tune and I could make more power with a dyno tune and new fuel pump and maf but I'm happy till I get the 326 stroker built
So your running 10psi nice for over 2 years hmmm..., sounds like your around the 550 hp range then you say conservative tune maybe 525 hp then what BLOWER are you running? and what size pulley ?
Like I said 10psi or less is safe.
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