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Old 11-26-2013, 09:36 PM   #246
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It's stupid to compare the 4.6 n 5.0 MOD FOR MOD.

One engine is smaller so obviously it will not win mod 4 mod dummies!
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It's stupid to compare the 4.6 n 5.0 MOD FOR MOD. One engine is smaller so obviously it will not win mod 4 mod dummies!
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As for the paper horsepower kids... they're pretty much just trolls IRL. Anything you do besides ignoring the troll feeds the troll and even then...
Ya my bad, just can only read fantasy BS so much. Show the proof or shut it i say.
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It's stupid to compare the 4.6 n 5.0 MOD FOR MOD. One engine is smaller so obviously it will not win mod 4 mod dummies!
I hope you mean displacement wise. I really do.
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I hope you mean displacement wise. I really do.
yes I do... YOOH DUHMEE
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yes I do... YOOH DUHMEE
I was about to say that the LS motors are physically smaller and lighter and respond much better to bolt ons.
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I was about to say that the LS motors are physically smaller and lighter and respond much better to bolt ons.
this isn't the LS vs 4.6/5.0 thread
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this isn't the LS vs 4.6/5.0 thread
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It's stupid to compare the 4.6 n 5.0 MOD FOR MOD.

One engine is smaller so obviously it will not win mod 4 mod dummies!


Thank you .. exactly my point was if I run into a stock 5.0 and most are , there will be no contest even with bolt ons it would take a few dollars to get 600 hp
out of a 5.0 not that easy . The advantage of having a BLOWN motor is....
one can always switch to a smaller pulley... more power is ALWAYS available.

And like I always said if I wanted a REAL beast of a motor , I would buy the 5.8
crate motor and skip the 5.0 entirely , end of debate.

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Thank you .. exactly my point was if I run into a stock 5.0 and most are , there will be no contest even with bolt ons it would take a few dollars to get 600 hp out of a 5.0 not that easy . The advantage of having a BLOWN motor is.... one can always switch to a smaller pulley... more power is ALWAYS available. And like I always said if I wanted a REAL beast of a motor , I would buy the 5.8 crate motor and skip the 5.0 entirely , end of debate.
A 50 shot nitrous 5.0 would probably beat a blown 4.6
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I love a great debate as much as anyone but in the realm of the universe what does it matter. Both are reallyneed cool, great engines and in the end, it really doesn't matter. Its metal pieces. The new 5.0 engine is just an upgraded more advanced version of the 4.6. No shame in that and doesn't make the 4.6 crap, just less advanced. Its evolution. In 15 years the current 5.0 will be what today's 4.6 engine is. The less superior motor and less power. Its evolution and technology.
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I love a great debate as much as anyone but in the realm of the universe what does it matter. Both are reallyneed cool, great engines and in the end, it really doesn't matter. Its metal pieces. The new 5.0 engine is just an upgraded more advanced version of the 4.6. No shame in that and doesn't make the 4.6 crap, just less advanced. Its evolution. In 15 years the current 5.0 will be what today's 4.6 engine is. The less superior motor and less power. Its evolution and technology.
it matters because this IS the great 4.6 vs 5.0 thread
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It's stupid to compare the 4.6 n 5.0 MOD FOR MOD.

One engine is smaller so obviously it will not win mod 4 mod dummies!
It's more than that though. You also have to factor in compression ratio and technology. The 5.0 isn't exactly a low compression motor like the 4.6 is (relatively). However if I had to choose I would go with a Coyote in my car. There's no way you're getting a 7500rpm (potential) redline out of a 4.6 from the factory. Gladiatoro does have a valid point that his boosted 4.6 will put up a good fight with a new 5.0, it's also a BOOSTED 4.6 being compared to a N/A 5.0... Not much of a comparison when you have to throw $6K (when buying new) just to get on the same level. But then again this whole argument is much more suited for Terminators Vs. 5.0s instead of the whole 4.6 factory line against a base 5.0
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It's more than that though. You also have to factor in compression ratio and technology. The 5.0 isn't exactly a low compression motor like the 4.6 is (relatively). However if I had to choose I would go with a Coyote in my car. There's no way you're getting a 7500rpm (potential) redline out of a 4.6 from the factory. Gladiatoro does have a valid point that his boosted 4.6 will put up a good fight with a new 5.0, it's also a BOOSTED 4.6 being compared to a N/A 5.0... Not much of a comparison when you have to throw $6K (when buying new) just to get on the same level. But then again this whole argument is much more suited for Terminators Vs. 5.0s instead of the whole 4.6 factory line against a base 5.0
Yea we could be comparing 4.6 2v to the 5.0 lol there is not much competition there lol
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It's more than that though. You also have to factor in compression ratio and technology. The 5.0 isn't exactly a low compression motor like the 4.6 is (relatively). However if I had to choose I would go with a Coyote in my car. There's no way you're getting a 7500rpm (potential) redline out of a 4.6 from the factory. Gladiatoro does have a valid point that his boosted 4.6 will put up a good fight with a new 5.0, it's also a BOOSTED 4.6 being compared to a N/A 5.0... Not much of a comparison when you have to throw $6K (when buying new) just to get on the same level. But then again this whole argument is much more suited for Terminators Vs. 5.0s instead of the whole 4.6 factory line against a base 5.0
is a stock coyote vs a boosted 4.6 not a good comparison?? Cuz I think it is
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It's more than that though. You also have to factor in compression ratio and technology. The 5.0 isn't exactly a low compression motor like the 4.6 is (relatively). However if I had to choose I would go with a Coyote in my car. There's no way you're getting a 7500rpm (potential) redline out of a 4.6 from the factory. Gladiatoro does have a valid point that his boosted 4.6 will put up a good fight with a new 5.0, it's also a BOOSTED 4.6 being compared to a N/A 5.0... Not much of a comparison when you have to throw $6K (when buying new) just to get on the same level. But then again this whole argument is much more suited for Terminators Vs. 5.0s instead of the whole 4.6 factory line against a base 5.0


600Hp IS not the same level as 420 hp SORRY. A stock 5.0 would be a joke with my set up ....



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is a stock coyote vs a boosted 4.6 not a good comparison?? Cuz I think it is
It is but it isn't at the same time. You've still got a ticking time bomb with a boosted non-forged 4.6 (unless we're talking terminators) with a shallow 6500rpm redline and no room to go until you build the motor soo yeah I don't think they're a good comparison. If it's a Terminator then that's a completely different ball game
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600Hp IS not the same level as 420 hp SORRY. A stock 5.0 would be a joke with my set up .... ---------- Post added at 08:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:35 PM ----------
And we have yet to even see your set up. And if you don't have forged internals you won't have that set up for very long.
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it matters because this IS the great 4.6 vs 5.0 thread
Lol. Well now that you mention that the 5.0 is just a more advanced, higher output, next generation engine. Its superior to the 4.6 engine. The 4.6 is a wonderful, reliable engine and nothing to be ashamed of. Its just a less advanced engine. Out with the old and in with the new. In fact, Ford should of never gotten rid of the 5.0 engine and gone to the 4.6. There is no replacement for displacement!
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600Hp IS not the same level as 420 hp SORRY. A stock 5.0 would be a joke with my set up ....



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Well good for you.... And it only took what $4K to reach that right?? I'm just curious, who throws around bhp numbers any more??
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You guys are talking how big and bad a 5.0 is stock, slightly modded yada yada yada. So I think a lil boosted 4.6 is a good match for it. Both unforced and even moreso when it is forged

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It is but it isn't at the same time. You've still got a ticking time bomb with a boosted non-forged 4.6 (unless we're talking terminators) with a shallow 6500rpm redline and no room to go until you build the motor soo yeah I don't think they're a good comparison. If it's a Terminator then that's a completely different ball game
also a termi is a 4.6 as well and a good competitor as any for a 5.0
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600Hp IS not the same level as 420 hp SORRY. A stock 5.0 would be a joke with my set up ....



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Sure your 600 supercharged 4.6 will eat up a 420 HP 5.0 but a supercharged 5.0 that's making 700 HP plus is again on top of the 4.6.
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You guys are talking how big and bad a 5.0 is stock, slightly modded yada yada yada. So I think a lil boosted 4.6 is a good match for it. Both unforced and even moreso when it is forged
That's why the Terminator and 5.0 guys hate each other so much... both cars are extremely close competition from the factory. They're both such good starting platforms that it's possible to compare them stock for stock AND mod for mod.
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You guys are talking how big and bad a 5.0 is stock, slightly modded yada yada yada. So I think a lil boosted 4.6 is a good match for it. Both unforced and even moreso when it is forged

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also a termi is a 4.6 as well and a good competitor as any for a 5.0
The terminator is different. Lol. A hand made, fully forged entire engine. Oh my.
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also a termi is a 4.6 as well and a good competitor as any for a 5.0
I touched on terminators in my initial lost, but that post was more directed to the non-forged 4.6s
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I touched on terminators in my initial lost, but that post was more directed to the non-forged 4.6s
The 5.0 engine is just a higher output, more advanced engine over the 5.0. Its called technology evolution. Lmao. Actually, a more even match is really a 4.6 vs 3.7 engine. Both share similar stock HP numbers and can hold around the same safe boost rwhp numbers on a stock motor. Both cars (4.6 & 3.7) can run 0-60 mph and 1/4 mile times within 2 tenths second of each other. That's more of a fair match.
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The 5.0 engine is just a higher output, more advanced engine over the 5.0. Its called technology evolution. Lmao. Actually, a more even match is really a 4.6 vs 3.7 engine. Both share similar stock HP numbers and can hold around the same safe boost rwhp numbers on a stock motor. Both cars (4.6 & 3.7) can run 0-60 mph and 1/4 mile times within 2 tenths second of each other. That's more of a fair match.
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The 5.0 engine is just a higher output, more advanced engine over the 5.0. Its called technology evolution. Lmao. Actually, a more even match is really a 4.6 vs 3.7 engine. Both share similar stock HP numbers and can hold around the same safe boost rwhp numbers on a stock motor. Both cars (4.6 & 3.7) can run 0-60 mph and 1/4 mile times within 2 tenths second of each other. That's more of a fair match.
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The 5.0 engine is just a higher output, more advanced engine over the 5.0. Its called technology evolution. Lmao. Actually, a more even match is really a 4.6 vs 3.7 engine. Both share similar stock HP numbers and can hold around the same safe boost rwhp numbers on a stock motor. Both cars (4.6 & 3.7) can run 0-60 mph and 1/4 mile times within 2 tenths second of each other. That's more of a fair match.
That's definitely true. Well at least for the 3V/4V. I know the 2V isn't on the same level
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You guys are talking how big and bad a 5.0 is stock, slightly modded yada yada yada. So I think a lil boosted 4.6 is a good match for it. Both unforced and even moreso when it is forged

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also a termi is a 4.6 as well and a good competitor as any for a 5.0
Yup a termi is a 4.6
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