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Old 12-18-2013, 03:39 PM   #36
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Looks like the auto is a little slower hmmm
Based on an internet search LOL? Come out to the track and you'll see real world results.
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I ran a 12.8 at 112mph. More then bs
My point exactly. The stock autos around here all run in the 12.5-12.6 range. That time you ran isn't very good by any stretch of the imagination.
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Based on an internet search LOL? Come out to the track and you'll see real world results.

My point exactly. The stock autos around here all run in the 12.5-12.6 range. That time you ran isn't very good by any stretch of the imagination.
Bin to track many times bro and yes some auto are faster but not all and I've seen a lot more auto's grenade on the track Also just personal experience lol
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I've seen a ton of stick shifts blow up at the track from ppl missing shifts too, just my personal experience. Sticks are never faster in the 1/4 all other things being equal. You've got to be making a good deal extra power with a stick to reel in an auto and it gets harder and harder the faster you go. Example, a ported Eaton Cobra with the T-56 can drop almost an entire second off its E/T switching to an automatic and a very popular swap is a built 4R with a manual valve body.
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I would always a manual guy, just because it's fun. Even worth a more extreme build, I tend to pick a built manual over an auto. That being said, the new 6R80 in the 11+ Mustangs is just plain wicked. One of the best automatic sport car trannys to date, IMO.

I can see myself picking up an 11+ auto GT in my near future to make a killer turbo drag car. It's always nice to change things up!

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For you yeah get a stick if that's what you like. These threads always devolve into "real men drive a stick" or "lol you bought a mustang with 2 pedals". From tools who have never ridden in/driven an automatic that was properly setup.

I'm STILL undecided if I'm going to convert to a MVB auto or stay stick.
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"real men drive a stick"
YEAH! I'm going to agree with this guy
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Is this a real question?! LOL juust kidding
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For me, a manual transmission is better. I enjoy it more than letting the car think and shift for me.

That being said, my Z28 runs 11.4 @ 129 mph in the 1/4 with a terrible 60'. Were it a built auto with a stall and slicks, low 10s at mid 130's would be possible. I know this for fact because I have a friend who literally has the same exact setup but with a built 4l60E and a stall. At the strip, his car is a monster. If I try to push my car too hard at the strip, the rear end explodes, what fun. On the street, once my car can really put it's power down (120 mph or 4th gear) my car is clearly faster than his auto. I also get much better gas mileage thanks to that .5:1 6th gear and 3.42 rear axle.
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Yeah you crapmarobird guys (I kid I kid) run what like 1600 rpm at 80mph in 6th? Some stupid low number getting 30mpg at least that is what multiple ppl I've worked with claim.

I still often consider picking up a LS1 M6 at some point. Hard for me to get around the weight/interior though. Not a huge fan of any of them except the WS6 as far as looks and the interior is still bleh.
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My Z28 runs 1300 rpm at 60, 1800 rpm at 80, and 2200 rpm at 100 mph.

With everything that's done to my car, on the nitrous tune (rich), I average 26 mpg (only using 3rd, 5th and 6th, gotta love those torques). On the highway/interstate low to mid 30's all day.

Weight is close to what the new edge Mustangs are. My car weighed in at a little over 3400 lbs (3440 lbs I think), and mine is fully loaded, T-tops, leather, 6 spd, power everything, monsoon system. Replacing the exhaust and replacing / removing other parts, C5 Z06 wheels, added up, removed over 100lbs.

From a drivers perspective, I like the interior in my 'maro more than I like the interior found in the SN95's. Especially the seats. However, if I was riding passenger, I would prefer the Mustang interior.
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I close my eyes, and picture most here beating on their chests with their fists.

This debate will never settle. I just appretiate it that you have kept it all clean and within the rules.
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Based on an internet search LOL? Come out to the track and you'll see real world results.

My point exactly. The stock autos around here all run in the 12.5-12.6 range. That time you ran isn't very good by any stretch of the imagination.
I don't know what you are smoking. My friend has one an auto with 4:10 gears a lund race tune and suspension work and runs 12.5-6 with street tires. Lets run at the track
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I think the new 6speed auto in the 2011-14 mustang is a great transmission but it can not beat a manual in the 1/4 stock for stock unless the manual guy misses a gear or doesn't know how to drive. The auto jumps harder out of the gate but the 1-2 shift is when the manual takes over.
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My Z28 runs 1300 rpm at 60, 1800 rpm at 80, and 2200 rpm at 100 mph.

With everything that's done to my car, on the nitrous tune (rich), I average 26 mpg (only using 3rd, 5th and 6th, gotta love those torques). On the highway/interstate low to mid 30's all day.

Weight is close to what the new edge Mustangs are. My car weighed in at a little over 3400 lbs (3440 lbs I think), and mine is fully loaded, T-tops, leather, 6 spd, power everything, monsoon system. Replacing the exhaust and replacing / removing other parts, C5 Z06 wheels, added up, removed over 100lbs.

From a drivers perspective, I like the interior in my 'maro more than I like the interior found in the SN95's. Especially the seats. However, if I was riding passenger, I would prefer the Mustang interior.
You aren't doing much to help ease my thought process of looking for a clean WS6 but that's the problem, finding one for cheap. Can't beat the Mustang for cheap although by the time you get done doing a setup to keep up with a LS1 and the 6 speed swap it kind of levels out. Rear end though...
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People put too big an emphasis on transmission in these cars. It's the same car with the same horsepower. And unless you are trying to shave gnat's as$es off of your track time, it doesn't matter. It's all about your preference. If you feel that you need a manual to get the driving experience you want, then do that. If you'd like to cruise along without having to think about shifting, then get a manual. The endless debate is ridiculous. It's like arguing blonde or brunette. Just pick one and shut your trap!





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People put too big an emphasis on transmission in these cars. It's the same car with the same horsepower. And unless you are trying to shave gnat's as$es off of your track time, it doesn't matter. It's all about your preference. If you feel that you need a manual to get the driving experience you want, then do that. If you'd like to cruise along without having to think about shifting, then get a manual. The endless debate is ridiculous. It's like arguing blonde or brunette. Just pick one and shut your trap!





Besides, everyone knows red head is the way to go.
Yes it does matter, a stick car running 10s will drop at least half a second off its E/T if not more by going to a stalled automatic setup and everything else remaining the same. Seen it in person and plenty of information on this internets to back it up if you don't believe me.

Although I do agree with you about redheads.
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I don't know what you are smoking. My friend has one an auto with 4:10 gears a lund race tune and suspension work and runs 12.5-6 with street tires. Lets run at the track
Well your friend made a big mistake putting 4.10's in the auto. 4.17 1st gear combined with 4.10's makes for traction/60' problems. And that shift into 4th before the stripe hurt him as well. Me? 11.79 before I put the car away for the Winter. Stock 3.15's, stock converter. So yea I have an idea what works in these cars.
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Well your friend made a big mistake putting 4.10's in the auto. 4.17 1st gear combined with 4.10's makes for traction/60' problems. And that shift into 4th before the stripe hurt him as well. Me? 11.79 before I put the car away for the Winter. Stock 3.15's, stock converter. So yea I have an idea what works in these cars.
He also ran all season tires. What do you think a good 60ft time is on street tires? You run drag radials?
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I don't know anything except for the reviews. I have only driven the standard but all the reviews hate the auto. Of course, that's stock without a tune. Most of the youtube 1/4 mile vidoes I have seen are sticks. I wouldn't own an auto personally because I like to shift gears but that's just me. I also have never been to a track. I would love to but never have. The closest one to me is at least a couple hours I believe.
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He also ran all season tires. What do you think a good 60ft time is on street tires? You run drag radials?
Honestly with street tires and 4.10's good 60' times are not going to happen. Yes I run M/T 295/55-15 drag radials and skinny's on the front.
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Honestly with street tires and 4.10's good 60' times are not going to happen. Yes I run M/T 295/55-15 drag radials and skinny's on the front.
Man that's nice looking!!!
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Man that's nice looking!!!
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Nice what were you putting down in that mach?
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Honestly with street tires and 4.10's good 60' times are not going to happen. Yes I run M/T 295/55-15 drag radials and skinny's on the front.
I did not mean with 4:10 in stock form. What other mods do you have to run in the 11?
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I did not mean with 4:10 in stock form. What other mods do you have to run in the 11?
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I bought my used 2011 5.0 GT Premium in July of 2013. I looked for a long time for a 6-speed manual with everything I wanted. Although you pay extra for an automatic when new I could have paid $1,000 less for a used automatic. The 6-speed manual is more popular harder to find and therefore more desirable from a resale perspective. In my opinion most Mustang owners want to shift the gear themselves.
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With the select shift is there really a big difference?
Actually answering your question, yes, there is a huge difference.

There should be a difference depending on year, I don't know the differences, but try searching for the year you are questioning.

If your intentions are a drag car, or you don't really love driving and being totally involved (you just like to chill and cruise- nothing wrong with that), then the auto is usually a clear winner.

If you like to control as much as you can with your vehicle, and really be in control, the standard is the way to go. I have never used the Ford push buttons, but on every semi auto I have driven (Buicks, Lincolns, so on) it is still something controlled by a computer. My specific point by that is that it will do what it feels is best. I roll in 6th all the time under 1000 rpms- the Buick I was test driving w/ more torque would not dip under 1100 or so. I have also heard that the it is not immediate. You may be in 3rd, want 5th, hit it twice, but it only reads once- thinking it was a mistake, or maybe the computer says "No, I don't think so..."

Tunes will change things, but overall, auto = consistency, and standard = choice.

Use the search function if you would like to see one of the hundreds of threads on this topic that have more info (and then have gotten out of hand and been closed).
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