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Old 12-21-2013, 12:20 AM   #1
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Whiteline Watts Link Rear Suspension

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Any of you guys/girls out there using the Whiteline Watts Link Rear Suspension (American Muscle, part# 54111)?
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Back of the car is basically the same so same thing.
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You will corner like a boss with a WL
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Get rid of the UCA altogether to free up the rear. Add on a torque arm as well.
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Get rid of the UCA altogether to free up the rear. Add on a torque arm as well.

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Watts link, Torque arm, and coilovers. You will see some Subie headlights in the corners.
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Watts link, Torque arm, and coilovers. You will see some Subie headlights in the corners.
I have two different ways to go. UCA, with Whiteline Adjustable Rear Upper Control arms...$1,142 with 6% discount or....

Rear UCA, Lower Adjustable Control Arms, Brackets for Lower Arms, Whiteling Adjustable Pan Hard Bar and Pan Hard Support Brace....around $900 with 6& discount.

Why coil overs? I already have the Ford Racing Handling Package installed. New Springs with it.
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Don't bother with upper control arms, just go straight to a Torque arm, and as for the coilovers they are fully adjustable for stiffness and ride height.
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Even with the coilovers the spring is just sandwiched between the axel and body. I wish they had a coil spring setup similar to the front suspension.
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Even with the coilovers the spring is just sandwiched between the axel and body. I wish they had a coil spring setup similar to the front suspension.

Last time I checked, they are available
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Last time I checked, they are available
Yup, I actually just decided to check and sure as ****, they do have them. Looks like I'll be swapping out my coil overs.

Your pic shows coil spring in strut and a watts link. Do you have a link so I can research?
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Then there SLA
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Any of you guys/girls out there using the Whiteline Watts Link Rear Suspension (American Muscle, part# 54111)?
Whiteline makes a great product! I run their Lower Control arms on my 2011 GT and have full intentions of getting the Watts Link set up. The Whiteline Watts Link Rear Suspension allows the axle to move up and down in a true vertical plane keeping it centered under the car, so that your roll center behaves exactly the same in a left hand turn as it does in a right hand turn. This allows for predictable and tune-able handling, perfect for street and track cars.

These are also ride height adjustable. So it doesn't matter if you're Stock, Lowered on Springs, Coil overs etc.. you can still use the Watt links set up!

I hope this helps. It sounds like you have some really big plans for your Suspension. That's really cool to see! Keep up the great work with your build and let me know if you ever have any questions.

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Get rid of the UCA altogether to free up the rear. Add on a torque arm as well.
Ok, why should I get rid of the UCA altogether? Adding a torque arm for track use?

Beginner here.

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Whiteline makes a great product! I run their Lower Control arms on my 2011 GT and have full intentions of getting the Watts Link set up. The Whiteline Watts Link Rear Suspension allows the axle to move up and down in a true vertical plane keeping it centered under the car, so that your roll center behaves exactly the same in a left hand turn as it does in a right hand turn. This allows for predictable and tune-able handling, perfect for street and track cars.

These are also ride height adjustable. So it doesn't matter if you're Stock, Lowered on Springs, Coil overs etc.. you can still use the Watt links set up!

I hope this helps. It sounds like you have some really big plans for your Suspension. That's really cool to see! Keep up the great work with your build and let me know if you ever have any questions.

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Someone mentioned that I should put on some Coilovers. I already have the FRHP system. I thought I took care of most of the suspension with this package. Or could it be they didn't notice the ad-ons?
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Someone mentioned that I should put on some Coilovers. I already have the FRHP system. I thought I took care of most of the suspension with this package. Or could it be they didn't notice the ad-ons?
Coileovers are a great option over the stock suspension. However, so is the FRPP System that you're running. You won't notice all that much of a difference in handling and ride quality from your current suspension set up, to coilovers. The only thing you'd really gain is the ability to adjust the ride height!

I don't think it's necessary to run Coilovers, if you're already running a great Suspension set up.

Hope this helps!

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Ok, why should I get rid of the UCA altogether? Adding a torque arm for track use?

Beginner here.

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The stock 4 link suspension is marginal at best for keeping the rear end of the car properly situated. Going to a torque arm/panhard setup/3 link eliminates side to side play and drastically improves the entire way the rearend operates. A Watts link is even better because a panhard bar does not quite allow the rear to articulate up and down in a true vertical fashion as was already mentioned, the Watts link does.

There is also the much maligned IRS which, IMO, is the better option for a street car. If you are on a prepped track the built SRA/watts/etc... is going to shine but for an unprepped daily driven road with bumps, potholes and whatever else I'll take a properly setup IRS any day. That's just me though, YMMV.

Then for up front there is the SLA setup which is a bit overkill for a non-competition road racer but it all depends what ppl want to do. For the majority of ppl a good front coilover setup/k member like the $1700 Max Motorsports front kit with forward offset A arms will be MORE than fine.
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The stock 4 link suspension is marginal at best for keeping the rear end of the car properly situated. Going to a torque arm/panhard setup/3 link eliminates side to side play and drastically improves the entire way the rearend operates. A Watts link is even better because a panhard bar does not quite allow the rear to articulate up and down in a true vertical fashion as was already mentioned, the Watts link does.

There is also the much maligned IRS which, IMO, is the better option for a street car. If you are on a prepped track the built SRA/watts/etc... is going to shine but for an unprepped daily driven road with bumps, potholes and whatever else I'll take a properly setup IRS any day. That's just me though, YMMV.

Then for up front there is the SLA setup which is a bit overkill for a non-competition road racer but it all depends what ppl want to do. For the majority of ppl a good front coilover setup/k member like the $1700 Max Motorsports front kit with forward offset A arms will be MORE than fine.
I choose the FRHP because I wanted a one time drop on the car. No track or road course use. Just a little V6 that has a little bit bigger balls than stock cars. Your right about back roads. Beats the H*ll out of you but I knew that was going to happen. Rather cruise on the interstate.

Thanks for your response.

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