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Old 01-05-2014, 03:56 PM   #36
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Someone else was talking about that last night on Facebook how the 03-04 Cobras have gone down in value quite big. The Cobras haven't held their value lately like they have in the past. They weren't sure if its because the 15 model had been revealed or what.
I haven't seen any decreases. Ones like mine are still going for around 22...
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That's blue book. Blue book is really only useful for people who know nothing about cars that want to buy one, but don't know what it should cost. When it comes to collector cars the market is completely different.
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That's blue book. Blue book is really only useful for people who know nothing about cars that want to buy one, but don't know what it should cost. When it comes to collector cars the market is completely different.
Oh, I got ya. Thats cool.
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Oh, I got ya. Thats cool.

Also depends on areas. In some areas my car is worth like 5k to most states but I paid 7800 for it. Dang California
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Also depends on areas. In some areas my car is worth like 5k to most states but I paid 7800 for it. Dang California
Were over in Maryland and Delaware
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Ford code named the 03-04 cobra as terminator because the car was meant to terminate any competition between them and camaros. And it did.
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Were over in Maryland and Delaware
A Termi in really good shape with 40k on it is going to go for more than $17k around those parts.

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Ford code named the 03-04 cobra as terminator because the car was meant to terminate any competition between them and camaros. And it did.
Well, GM pretty much self terminated... one bailout and a $40 billion hit later they are still making **** products.
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A Termi in really good shape with 40k on it is going to go for more than $17k around those parts.







Well, GM pretty much self terminated... one bailout and a $40 billion hit later they are still making **** products.

True true. I still can't believe the new z/28 is going to be 75,000 dollars. Like really? Before I did that id buy a used z06 and supercharge it. And then I'll have a beast of a car. Or just build my car up for 10k and be faster. I don't get why they want to charge that much. It's a camaro not a supercar
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Agreed these cars are getting ridonculously expensive. The real reason I have not bought a Terminator or a Coyote honestly is not so much money but I just don't feel they are worth that much. Problem with the Terminator is I'm just buying the engine, that's it. As far as just driving it it has literally 0 more creature comforts than my 98 does. IMO the best bang for the buck cars are the 94-01 Cobras and the Mach 1. You can get them for under $10k in really good shape/lower miles and from a performance standpoint they still hold up today.
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I would get a neither. I would get a 2014 they will be going down in price. As appealing as it would be to own a cobra over a GT yeah it would be Amazing. Now I know the terminator had a very strong motor but, it's still ten years old. Also a vehicle with as low as 40k on it might be a very rough 40k. I would look at what you want to do. Both cars will produce massive amounts of HP both are amazing cars. I do all my own maintenance on my cars but follow all maintenance schedules to a "t". So buying used you're going to be headed towards spending on that instead of all toward modding. Plus testing to make sure everything is still strong all around I don't know yeah the terminator is raw power. But you can make a 92dsm (eclipse)run 10's with a 4 banger in it. I would go with something new that you have only ridden hard lol, And not have to check on previous owners
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Agreed these cars are getting ridonculously expensive. The real reason I have not bought a Terminator or a Coyote honestly is not so much money but I just don't feel they are worth that much. Problem with the Terminator is I'm just buying the engine, that's it. As far as just driving it it has literally 0 more creature comforts than my 98 does. IMO the best bang for the buck cars are the 94-01 Cobras and the Mach 1. You can get them for under $10k in really good shape/lower miles and from a performance standpoint they still hold up today.

Luck for me I got a 99 cobra with tons of parts thrown at it and it wasn't driven super hard. It has been down the track before but it was very well cared for. I got lucky finding it
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Agreed these cars are getting ridonculously expensive. The real reason I have not bought a Terminator or a Coyote honestly is not so much money but I just don't feel they are worth that much. Problem with the Terminator is I'm just buying the engine, that's it. As far as just driving it it has literally 0 more creature comforts than my 98 does. IMO the best bang for the buck cars are the 94-01 Cobras and the Mach 1. You can get them for under $10k in really good shape/lower miles and from a performance standpoint they still hold up today.




What I like about the 03-04 Cobra (compared to earlier versions) is that I believe Ford further developed the IRS, added stiffer bushings, and thicker axle shafts. Am I correct?
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What kind of power is a 1999 to 2002 Cobra making, stock? Are those year Cobras supercharged like the 03-04 Cobras? Can a 1999 Cobra's engine hold a good amount of power or boost on stock internals?
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What kind of power is a 1999 to 2002 Cobra making, stock? Are those year Cobras supercharged like the 03-04 Cobras?
No 2000 or 2002 Cobra. The 99/01 Cobra had a 4v 4.6 with approx 300hp. No sc.

And yes, irs was slightly updated for 03/04 Cobra.
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No 2000 or 2002 Cobra. The 99/01 Cobra had a 4v 4.6 with approx 300hp. No sc.

And yes, irs was slightly updated for 03/04 Cobra.
So for a 99 or 01 Cobra, does that have IRS? How much power can those engines hold on stock internals?
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No 2000 or 2002 Cobra. The 99/01 Cobra had a 4v 4.6 with approx 300hp. No sc.

And yes, irs was slightly updated for 03/04 Cobra.
Well there was a 2000 Cobra but it was the R. I forget why there was not a 2002, some reason or other. IRS was updated to 31 spline all the way through in 03/04. IIRC it went to 31 spline on the hubs and 28 on the diff still in 2001 though.
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So for a 99 or 01 Cobra, does that have IRS? How much power can those engines hold on stock internals?
Yes they have irs. Motors will hold around 400 before spinning bearings.

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Well there was a 2000 Cobra but it was the R. I forget why there was not a 2002, some reason or other. IRS was updated to 31 spline all the way through in 03/04. IIRC it went to 31 spline on the hubs and 28 on the diff still in 2001 though.
2000 Cobra R yes. Not many similarities with 99 Cobra however. No 2002 Cobra because SVT was sick of the slow Cobras and developed the built 03/04.
99/01 were 28 spline diff, 31 spline hub.
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Yes they have irs. Motors will hold around 400 before spinning bearings.
So, is the 3.7 engine built stronger than the engine of an 99/01 Cobra. I believe the 3.7 can safely hold 440 to 450 rwhp on factory internals
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Yes they have irs. Motors will hold around 400 before spinning bearings.

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2000 Cobra R yes. Not many similarities with 99 Cobra however. No 2002 Cobra because SVT was sick of the slow Cobras and developed the built 03/04.
99/01 were 28 spline diff, 31 spline hub.

There actually was a 2002 Cobra. But you could only get it in Australia.
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There actually was a 2002 Cobra. But you could only get it in Australia.
They made 100 of them. The rarest Cobra produced, and imo the ugliest ever produced as well with the extra fogs
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It's going to come down to money. Do you have the extra money to put back in fixing a car that is 10 years old? Or would you rather mod the car to your personal liking and that would be covered for warranty work?

Mustangs can be Money Pits.
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They made 100 of them. The rarest Cobra produced, and imo the ugliest ever produced as well with the extra fogs

I never knew they made these in 2002, Google confirms they are quite possibly the ugliest mustang ever.

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There actually was a 2002 Cobra. But you could only get it in Australia.
It's actually a 2001 my production. Took the extra year to convert to rhd and shipping.
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I honestly think the New Edge is the sexiest Mustang they ever did. But I'm also one of the ppl who thinks the same thing about the SN95 and I know I'm in the minority there. I do know mine is an exception to the rule. Most SN95s are beat to hell these days.

Amen +1 ^ hell yeah.


You have to really love those cars. If you are not mechanically inclined, or don't care to be under the hood more than on the road then get an 11-15' GT or whatever, but if you have an affinity for the SN95's the Termi is the cream of the New Edge crop.

Oh, don't forget if you decide to get an 11'-13' Mustang read up on the whole MT-82 six speed transmission problems before going out there. Tons of used lots are going to be doing tricks to those tranny's to get them out their door, saw dust and weird crap in the tranny to hide the grinding and banging it is prone to. If you like auto though that 6R80 is a beast with gears and the right tune.
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Amen +1 ^ hell yeah.

You have to really love those cars. If you are not mechanically inclined, or don't care to be under the hood more than on the road then get an 11-15' GT or whatever, but if you have an affinity for the SN95's the Termi is the cream of the New Edge crop.

Oh, don't forget if you decide to get an 11'-13' Mustang read up on the whole MT-82 six speed transmission problems before going out there. Tons of used lots are going to be doing tricks to those tranny's to get them out their door, saw dust and weird crap in the tranny to hide the grinding and banging it is prone to. If you like auto though that 6R80 is a beast with gears and the right tune.
The only problems my cobra has had were all caused by me. Other than that just general maintenance.
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The only problems my cobra has had were all caused by me. Other than that just general maintenance.
I was more referring to the maintenance aspect of owning a ten year old car, I'm not saying their not great or anything. My car is 19 years old this year and I spend almost all my money I saved for mods on just trips to the parts store to replace old failing parts hoses and junk.


If I had the money for a Termi, I would wait and save even more, have at least a couple of grand saved aside just in case the clutch was on its last leg, the transmission falls apart a week later, or you overlooked the fact that the tires are bald when you bought it and will cost an arm and a leg to replace. You know, Murphy's law.
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Amen +1 ^ hell yeah.


You have to really love those cars. If you are not mechanically inclined, or don't care to be under the hood more than on the road then get an 11-15' GT or whatever, but if you have an affinity for the SN95's the Termi is the cream of the New Edge crop.

Oh, don't forget if you decide to get an 11'-13' Mustang read up on the whole MT-82 six speed transmission problems before going out there. Tons of used lots are going to be doing tricks to those tranny's to get them out their door, saw dust and weird crap in the tranny to hide the grinding and banging it is prone to. If you like auto though that 6R80 is a beast with gears and the right tune.
If I was going to get a 11-14 it would for sure be an auto.
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Personally, if I had the money, I'd go with the Cobra. But that was the Mustang I fell in love with when I was younger, so I'm totally biased. But it's used vs. new, 2 totally different cars, apples to oranges. It's just your personal preference.
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The 03/04 Cobra is named the "Terminator" because it will outrun any 03/04 Camaro in existence.
That's a fact...
And it will be that way until the end of time.

That's why Ish...
There is no 03/04 camaro..

Oh wait I get it now ;-P

They call it the terminator because its the car that retired the camaro!!
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Op should just a 14 5.0. The last year of a certain body style usually means they got all of the kinks worked out, and was the best year of that gen

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At this point any 2011-2014 will be fine. 2011/2012 were identical for all intents and purposes as were 2013/2014. Just gotta watch out for the issues with the MT82 if you are unlucky. Yet another reason to just get the automatic 6 spd.
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I believe this car would not be a DD for me so I don't think I want to spend the money for a 2015 mustang. But I like the idea of something easy and not too expensive to mod. So I am leaning towards an 03/04 Cobra. There is no doubt that the interior of the newer mustang is more refined but that does not seem as important to me. I appreciate all of the comments an ideas. Keep then coming, I love to read everyone's input......even if it is a little off topic...lol!

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I believe this car would not be a DD for me so I don't think I want to spend the money for a 2015 mustang. But I like the idea of something easy and not too expensive to mod. So I am leaning towards an 03/04 Cobra. There is no doubt that the interior of the newer mustang is more refined but that does not seem as important to me. I appreciate all of the comments an ideas. Keep then coming, I love to read everyone's input......even if it is a little off topic...lol!

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Well the 2015 is probably going to be similar to the 2014 as far as new prices. Maybe a little more, we can only hope I guess. However you can get a 2011/2012 in really really good shape for about the same price as a 03/04 Cobra in the same shape. Both are easy to mod, both are fast although buck for buck you'll probably make more power with the Termi.

If not a DD, I'd probably get the Termi too but if I was going to drive it daily or in everything but ice/snow it would be the Coyote and it isn't even close.
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O3 cobra or wait for 15 GT

Originally I was wAiting on the 15 but I got lured to the 14 as much as the. V 8 would impress me I'm more than likely will get a v 6 for price reasons it will be my 2 mustang in 10 years I've been stuck on a white with black rims till 2 other lower price options came along gonna have to go to the best deal i
reckon option 1 white base v6 black rims auto trans option 2 red base v6 manual option 3 dark blue base v6 manual bring 4000 less than the others
Same year same everything just lower price wish money wasn't a factor I'd get a boss 302
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