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Old 01-19-2014, 10:12 AM   #1
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FRPP FR3 Suspension Weight Savings?

Does the FRPP FR3 assembled handling pack have any significant weight savings from the shock/strut/sway bars upgrades over the stock GT parts on a 2011?
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No sir and there are some much better options out there available for these cars for the money. In my opinion (if you road course your car) the need for a rear sway bar is minimal. Front sway bar is much more beneficial, we've ran a lot of testing and questioned a lot of racing teams on this matter. I rear sway bar on DOT radial tires is a waste.
As far as struts and shocks, Koni STR.T or Sport yellows are better than the FRPP ones. I've done a lot of setups for my customers and haven't received any complaints yet
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Does the FRPP FR3 assembled handling pack have any significant weight savings from the shock/strut/sway bars upgrades over the stock GT parts on a 2011?
I put the FRPP on my V6. I first drove it for about 750 miles to get the feel of the car. After install of the complete package, it was like a different car. Great handling on the highway, city streets curvy roads. DON'T Go sightseeing in the country. The stiffer suspension will beat you to death.

I am waiting at the present for Upper Control Arms, Lower Control Arms, Adjustable Pan Hard Bar and the brackets.

Keep in touch, I would like to hear how your car handles after your installs.
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Thnks Jay for the good tech opinion, and thanks New__ for the cameraderie.

I had already committed to the FRPP FR3 setup with the dealer/installer when I put up the OP.

I have since done two hours of focused city driving over two days, one day with the FRPP FR3 and Ford stock 18 inch wheels with the Pirellis, and the second day changing the wheels/tires to 2 piece, forged Motegi 18 x 8 wheels weighing 18 lbs a piece covered with Nitto 555 tires.

On Day 1, I could tell many differences in control, but was disappointed in the feel of the FRPP FR3. It felt very 'drive by wire,' very linear. And the seat of the pants experience was sled-like. I resigned myself to increased arse-thump and slightly increased NVH in exchange for better control, which was certainly there.

On Day 2, it was revelatory. The significantly lighter Motegi wheels and (probably) the grippier Nittos opened the FRPP FR3 up. No more 'drive by wire,' now the responsiveness of the FRPP FR3 setup felt organic, intuitive, and laterally quicker, and more fluid.

I have alot more evaluative driving to do with the FRPP FR3 as it exists with the 18 lb wheels and Nittos, but my initial strong opinion is, any FRPP dealer selling these kits should really advocate for pairing them with lightweight wheels and top rated performance tires. It is a completely different chassis and suspension kit within and without the stock wheel setup.

I am very happy with the FRPP FR3 kit now that I took the wheel weight down (alot) and the tire grip up (a little). But on the stock 18s, I was having some buyer's remorse, because the FR3 is close to a $2000 kit that requires $700+ in labor costs to put on.
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I like my FR3A pack now - though I too would recommend going with the adjustable Konis over the adjustable Tokicos. I was REALLY unhappy at first because I'd put the Shelby 'hard' (no silicone bushings) LCA's on at the same time. The NVH was just obnoxious on the street. The MIGHT be okay for a track only car. Shelby no longer sells that style. I replaced them with the Track/GT500 Ford LCA's and it was night and day better. Some people think these are too soft but I like them. I also have the Steeda adjustable UCA and strut camber plates.
On the track, it handles great with the shocks/struts adjusted at 5 turns. Once I get better brakes on it, we'll see how it does at higher limits.
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