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Old 01-20-2014, 11:13 AM   #36
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Sounds like you still have a governed car. Which isn't a bad thing.

Hmm that's wierd since I have a tune :baffled: that's why I don't get when people say you can go further I'm like wtf I can't

I might try it again sometime to push it a little further and see if it will shift


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Hmm that's wierd since I have a tune :baffled: that's why I don't get when people say you can go further I'm like wtf I can't

I might try it again sometime to push it a little further and see if it will shift


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I don't think some tunes turn off the governor. Have you gone into the tuner and tried to program things, or just downloaded the tune? You might be able to turn off the governor by going into the tuner and programming it, that's just what I've heard, and not from experience.
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Well I don't want to turn the governer off and blow my engine lol


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Than why is it that I'm hitting the rev limiter at like 112?
Does that mean I have and extra gear to go? Cuz I tried to keep going but it wouldn't shift It just kept going into the redline so I let off (auto)
What year and model is your car? I thought this thread was about NewEdge GTs?

Some six-bangers (and maybe some base GTs) were delivered without speed-rated tires and do have a speed limiter set in the tune...
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What year and model is your car? I thought this thread was about NewEdge GTs?



Some six-bangers (and maybe some base GTs) were delivered without speed-rated tires and do have a speed limiter set in the tune...

I have an 04 GT


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I have an 04 GT
Then I suspect something is unusual/wrong with your tune.

When the 4.10 gears were installed did your tuner change the rpm based transmission shift points? It sounds as though it is never getting past 3rd gear at WOT...
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Then I suspect something is unusual/wrong with your tune.



When the 4.10 gears were installed did your tuner change the rpm based transmission shift points? It sounds as though it is never getting past 3rd gear at WOT...

He didn't mess with the tune I got a bama tune for it


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I am curious, what are you driving that struggles to get to a buck and a quarter?

It does exactly 100 in the 1/4 and runs a 14.01 I bog so bad of the line bc of the gears
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Every ratio up is about a 5 percent increase in torque and about 125 rpm...
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Man that sucks... my stock 2013 seems to get to 130 -135 so fast with such ease. My biggest problem running her like that is running out of space on the hw to really let her go... she feels like she can do every bit of the 150 or 160 on the dash.

While I dont drive like that everyday I do do it from time to time... the easiest way to do it here in Dallas is when getting on the hwy or tollway. If no one is in front of me I can hit it an nearly be in 100 as im getting on the hwy. Push it a bit further and usually traffic will make me slow down. Fun Times!!!

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On a auto 4.10 and on manual 3.73

The stock gear of a manual is 3:31 the auto is 3:15 so the 4:10 is best suited for the manual. 3:73 for the auto. The auto turns more RPM than the manual if your using the same gear.
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The stock gear of a manual is 3:31 the auto is 3:15 so the 4:10 is best suited for the manual. 3:73 for the auto. The auto turns more RPM than the manual if your using the same gear.

Manual new edge is 3.27..

And you said the opposite. Auto won't feel a gear swap as much as manual will. A 4.10 in an auto will feel like 3.73/3.90 in a manual. 4.30 auto will feel like 4.10 manual.
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Manual new edge is 3.27..

And you said the opposite. Auto won't feel a gear swap as much as manual will. A 4.10 in an auto will feel like 3.73/3.90 in a manual. 4.30 auto will feel like 4.10 manual.

Here is a picture of 4:10 RPM per gear. 4:10 In an auto 1st gear is pretty much topped out. After that it falls off till top gears. 4.10 are better suited for a manual...
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Here is the hearing RPM for the 3:73 Mitch better for the auto...
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I could not get the 3:73 pic to load but AM has the RPM scale per gear set. Putting a 4:30 gears in an auto you might as well cancel our 1st gear.
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I could not get the 3:73 pic to load but AM has the RPM scale per gear set. Putting a 4:30 gears in an auto you might as well cancel our 1st gear.

Did you happen to read the rest of the graph? It clearly shows manual RPMs higher in every instance except first gear. I don't even use first gear in my 5 speed new edge. I go max fifteen if I do use it.

The graph shows auto RPMs are significantly lower at higher speeds and gears.

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Did you happen to read the rest of the graph? It clearly shows manual RPMs higher in every instance except first gear. I don't even use first gear in my 5 speed new edge. I go max fifteen if I do use it.

The graph shows auto RPMs are significantly lower at higher speeds and gears.

Sorry man.

Not only 1st gear, 6th gear is higher rpm as well on the auto... Let's face it not many people are buying the gears to race every weekend the 4:10 would be terrible for the auto. Racing on the other hand sure the 4:10 would be perfect.
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Not only 1st gear, 6th gear is higher rpm as well on the auto... Let's face it not many people are buying the gears to race every weekend the 4:10 would be terrible for the auto. Racing on the other hand sure the 4:10 would be perfect.
Why is sixth gear even being brought up? There is no sixth gear in the new edge... Idk which car OP has but aren't they four speed autos? Compared to a five speed manual? It shouldn't matter who is efficient in a gear that doesn't exist in either application. Point is the auto will spin less RPM with 4.10s than a manual will. Unless you go to compare fourth gear in auto to fifth gear in manual.. Then it gets closer. And my 4.10 manual was my DD and I didn't race and I loved the gear and it was completely viable for typical driving and cruising. You just have to keep in mind cruising at eighty isn't very economical anymore. Just be smart.


At any rate... Anything over a 3.55 will net you very noticeable gains. over stock.
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The manual MT82 is a six speed bro.

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The manual MT82 is a six speed bro.

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I know. That's why I kept saying new edge. I didn't know what car the OP had. So I assumed. My mistake.
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I know. That's why I kept saying new edge. I didn't know what car the OP had. So I assumed. My mistake.
The OP has an 02 GT according to his profile (from what I can see on the app)
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The OP has an 02 GT according to his profile (from what I can see on the app)

Alright. If that's true then everything in saying is valid. Either way.. There are plenty of six speed manuals with 4.10s and autos with 4.10s or higher. You just have to change driving styles a little. Like I cruise interstate at 65 instead of 75 now. Not only is it really good on has but it saves me from getting pulled over. Haha. :p But anyway.. Good luck OP!
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Not only 1st gear, 6th gear is higher rpm as well on the auto... Let's face it not many people are buying the gears to race every weekend the 4:10 would be terrible for the auto. Racing on the other hand sure the 4:10 would be perfect.

And why are you talking about a 6th gear? OP has a New Edge. Either a 5 speed manual or a 4 speed auto. Your argument is 100% invalid here.
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Does OP have a MT82? Well I'm pretty sure that didn't come on the 99-04 so that argument is invalid.
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I have a 02 gt manual. That came with the 3600 transmission I believe it is. Thank you everyone for your help on this

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Does OP have a MT82? Well I'm pretty sure that didn't come on the 99-04 so that argument is invalid.
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Way to be a dick bro

I said the exact same thing as Cole, I was just more to the point. OP has a TR3650, so that's cool but a MT82 gearing question could have been a new thread. So let's keep it TR3650 related.
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I said the exact same thing as Cole, I was just more to the point. OP has a TR3650, so that's cool but a MT82 gearing question could have been a new thread. So let's keep it TR3650 related.
And to think, all this could have been avoided if the thread had stayed in the 99-04 section. But I digress, I don't make the decisions around here
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That's it the 3650. And sorry to cause all the confusion guys and gals.

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And to think, all this could have been avoided if the thread had stayed in the 99-04 section. But I digress, I don't make the decisions around here
All of this confusion can also be avoided as well if the people starting these threads can give more information instead of being so vague.
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Didn't really think a simple question on what gears are better would really matter that much. Sorry again

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All of this confusion can also be avoided as well if the people starting these threads can give more information instead of being so vague.
That is very true.
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I have a 02 gt manual. That came with the 3600 transmission I believe it is. Thank you everyone for your help on this

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Alright buddy! And the factory manual for the new edge is a Tremec 3650. If you have any other questions then don't be afraid to ask! Sorry we kinda started to bicker a bit. My fault.
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I said the exact same thing as Cole, I was just more to the point. OP has a TR3650, so that's cool but a MT82 gearing question could have been a new thread. So let's keep it TR3650 related.

This is why the general discussion board for anything related to all generation of mustangs needs broken up per generation it is getting screwed up and starting more fights for no reason whatsoever. We need a general discussion section in each generation forum. General questions about all mustangs can start fights if people do not read what kind of car the OP has or if the OP does not state his car in the post. This area of ME is going to become a cluster F!!!
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And to think, all this could have been avoided if the thread had stayed in the 99-04 section.

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My 99 cobra has 4.30 gears and I tried to max it out but I let off at 140. Very scary. Never doing it again. I still had more room in the rpms and it was still pulling pretty hard
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