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Old 01-21-2014, 03:13 PM   #1
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Torque

It's when you mash the pedal and your car moves faster than the rpm's rev up..
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Its what the fly by night mechanics don't do when they change spark plugs.
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Torque.. It's what my mustang doesn't have


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Torque.. It's what my mustang doesn't have


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Lol.. It's when you can't make your payment so you "Torque it" for the ins money.
And the Statue of Liberty holds a Torque too.
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rwhp vs. torque.
Torque moves weight, hp makes it go fast. IDK the difference. I just know that both is good. Lol
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Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall. Torque is how far you carry it with you.

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Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall. Torque is how far you carry it with you.

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Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races - Carroll Shelby
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Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races - Carroll Shelby
I only realized torque from 70-130mph and jow fast I moved before the drone got to me..
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Its what the fly by night mechanics don't do when they change spark plugs.
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Horsepower is the part that you read about.
Torque is the part you feel...
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Horsepower is an abstract number postulated from the real number of torque. Torque is the only thing you can actually measure.
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Horsepower is an abstract number postulated from the real number of torque. Torque is the only thing you can actually measure.
Yup!! That's why my first post read "you can feel it pull before you hear the engine climb rpms"
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Sorry friends, but some of you have it wrong.

Horsepower (ft-lbs/s) is a measurement of power over time. Torque (ft-lbs) is a measurement of rotational force.

Torque is closely related to and in some ways a component of horsepower. Torque is the engine's ability to do work while horsepower is the rate at which an engine can do work.

Essentially, because horsepower is a measurement of the rate at which work can be done, a high HP rating means that your car revs faster and is responsive to the throttle while torque is a translation of the power from the engine to the drivetrain and ultimately the pavement.

So, high horsepower means engine response. High torque means the gears turn faster and harder, and thus the wheels follow.

They are so incredibly closely related that it is difficult to clearly cut a difference between them. But make no mistake, that oomph you feel when you give your car gas is not simply torque, but the horsepower translating potential into torque starting at the driveshaft and ending at the wheels. So, no, Shelby isn't really right. This is why you don't see John Deere torque monster tractors winning any races.
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Well I feel shamed.
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Sorry friends, but some of you have it wrong.

Horsepower (ft-lbs/s) is a measurement of power over time. Torque (ft-lbs) is a measurement of rotational force.

Torque is closely related to and in some ways a component of horsepower. Torque is the engine's ability to do work while horsepower is the rate at which an engine can do work.

Essentially, because horsepower is a measurement of the rate at which work can be done, a high HP rating means that your car revs faster and is responsive to the throttle while torque is a translation of the power from the engine to the drivetrain and ultimately the pavement.

So, high horsepower means engine response. High torque means the gears turn faster and harder, and thus the wheels follow.

They are so incredibly closely related that it is difficult to clearly cut a difference between them. But make no mistake, that oomph you feel when you give your car gas is not simply torque, but the horsepower translating potential into torque starting at the driveshaft and ending at the wheels. So, no, Shelby isn't really right. This is why you don't see John Deere torque monster tractors winning any races.
Lol.. I was waiting for that!!)) Why not just say the right amount of torque + horsepower will greatly improve your vehicles performance. Agreed?
You're comment does support why a 4.0 inline six Jeep Motor isn't worth supercharging like a V6 or V8. Power must come from a motor designed for torque and horsepower. But heavierobjects do require more torque to move them than lighter objects.
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What I've always said is Horsepower is how fast you can go, Torque is what gets you there
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Well I feel shamed.

But you were right! Horsepower (like many other measurements...what is a "foot" really) is an abstract number we made up at some point down the line. And it's very difficult to measure horsepower without first measuring torque, as you said. Dynos measure torque and then can convert it to HP/kilowatts.

1 HP = the power required to move 550 lbs. 1 foot in 1 second

As made up as it is (a real draft horse may not even be able to make 1 HP while some can make more than 1 for a brief time), it's a measurement of the power of the engine. Without this measurement, we can't really say how "powerful" the engine is because torque doesn't necessarily measure power.

The only reason we don't measure engine power in watts (but do in kilowatts in some parts of the world) is because James Watt decided to create a new measurement for steam engines in the 1800s. Steam engines made a lot of power for the time, and noting that power in watts was impractical! One horsepower is nearly 800 watts if I remember correctly.
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Everyone here should secretly start calling it "Mustang Power/Hoof Lbs." Ha!! How much do you got? FI.. That'll learn em'...

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If you have no torque. Just install some gears. It will make you feel better


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Everyone here should secretly start calling it "Mustang Power/Hoof Lbs." Ha!! How much do you got? FI.. That'll learn em'...

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Lol yessss.
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Haha.
In the mid 1700's, James Watt was working on an improved version of the steam engine, which was a "brand new" technology at the time. The same James Watt who's name is on every light bulb that you've ever seen. He figured out the formula to calculate the measurement of power from every source of power ever devised . Many that hadn't even been thought up yet.
And no, light bulbs hadn't been invented yet.
An interesting man...
Mr Watt was having difficulty trying to describe, to the farmers and millers , the power output of his improved steam engine. Remember, it was a, largely, agrarian society back then. People understood animals, not machines.
Watt had already figured out the power output of his engines but the measurement was in kilowatts. He needed a way to make them understand.
Legend has it that he was at the brewery one day, having a libation, and was watching the mill horse pulling the mill stone around and around. He came up with the idea of figuring out how much the stone weighed, how much power the horse had to exert, and how far the horse could move the stone within a given time. He then did the math and converted his kilowatts to this new "horsepower". He now had a way to make the farmers understand how much work they could expect to get out of one of his steam engines.
The animal doesn't really make a difference. James Watt just happened to pick a horse. It could have been a ox.
Luckily, it wasn't. Oxpower doesn't roll off the tongue as well...
It's just a measurement of power. Period.
Specifically, it is a measurement of work that a source of energy is able to complete within a given time.
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Maybe he was ahead of his time and always imagined having 420 Horses (Mustangs) parked in his Super Barn. Reaping the rewards from his awesome discovery!!

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