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Old 01-31-2014, 08:36 PM   #1
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Stock/tuned dyno on a 2011 GT

Here's the difference between stock (Roush axleback only) and the Bama "race" tune with a K&N drop-in filter. Car is a 2011 GT.



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Doesn't seem as good of gains as I had thought. Definetely not worth losing my warranty for 7rwhp. Does the cai + tune make much of a bigger difference?
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We'll see. I've been holding out on installing anything else until I got it dyno'd with tuner only. I have a CAI and Boss manifold in the garage. Might start tomorrow, then dyno'd again.


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This thread covers "how to" drop $400 and gain 7 hp.


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Put your question to the vendor and see what they say. Every car is different. I look st the two runs and see the curves are virtually identical, which suggests to me the tune did not get written correctly, flash back to stock and reload. Tuned should feel markedly different, at the very least, indicating its presence.

I've maxed out at 439 flywheel, calculated from dragstrip times on my canned tune.
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The most positive gain I saw was the throttle response, otherwise feels the same. When I got home I plugged in the tuner again to check if I had even loaded the race tune, made me second guess lol.



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Yeah, no kidding. There should be a pretty dramatic difference, even putting around. 93 "race" tunes are not susbstantially different than a similar street 93 tune, except mainly in the more instant tuning of the throttle response.

You can see your little low end bump on your torque curve but otherwise, this tune is crap. You should be picking up solidly from the midrange on up, particularly and you're flatlined.
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I also put my bama tuner on and wasn't that impressed.. After a while I had to take it off for a short time and that's when I noticed the diff.. Mid range to top end dropped off drastically with it off..
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I'd be making a phone call about that one. If that's all you get i'd want a refund and take the money to someone else that will give you 20+RWHP For $200-250
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Maybe BAMA will chime in? lol.. that tune is bad. Thanks for sharing! Good Base numbers

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Here's the difference between stock (Roush axleback only) and the Bama "race" tune with a K&N drop-in filter.

Those gains definitely seem low. We can look into this for you and we'll make all necessary adjustments. As you can see, your car makes a lot more power in the mid range and the top end, compared to stock. Your stock tune completely falls off but the Bama tune continues to make power.

The most important thing is how does the car feel? Do you feel a big difference over stock? Also, what kind of dyno was this on? Were the runs back to back? Same day? etc..

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Ditch the bama tune and get a Ortiz tune.
David seifert is tuned by him and I've heard nothing but good.
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Those gains definitely seem low. We can look into this for you and we'll make all necessary adjustments. As you can see, your car makes a lot more power in the mid range and the top end, compared to stock. Your stock tune completely falls off but the Bama tune continues to make power.

The most important thing is how does the car feel? Do you feel a big difference over stock? Also, what kind of dyno was this on? Were the runs back to back? Same day? etc..

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I don't care for butt-o-meter stuff Dan, that's why I spend more effort and money for dyno time to help verify gains. I used the same dyno for consistency, I believe it's a dyno jet. I've tried a Mustang dyno in the past, but no one believed the 399rwhp it put down there stock, so I went back to this place which I've used for years in the past with a Camaro I used to own, and it's known by many in the local area to be conservative.

I'd like to see a bit more of a gain before I put any more parts on the car. Maybe this is it I don't know, just a little deflating when people claim quite a bit more, and I've seen guys get the gains you advertise but right now it ain't happenin' here.


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I don't care for butt-o-meter stuff Dan, that's why I spend more effort and money for dyno time to help verify gains. I used the same dyno for consistency, I believe it's a dyno jet. I've tried a Mustang dyno in the past, but no one believed the 399rwhp it put down there stock, so I went back to this place which I've used for years in the past with a Camaro I used to own, and it's known by many in the local area to be conservative.

I'd like to see a bit more of a gain before I put any more parts on the car. Maybe this is it I don't know, just a little deflating when people claim quite a bit more, and I've seen guys get the gains you advertise but right now it ain't happenin' here.
Yeah, like I said these numbers are low. We will help you figure out what's going on here. Please shoot me a PM with your order number include and I'll make sure you're contacted right away!

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I don't care for butt-o-meter stuff Dan, that's why I spend more effort and money for dyno time to help verify gains. I used the same dyno for consistency, I believe it's a dyno jet. I've tried a Mustang dyno in the past, but no one believed the 399rwhp it put down there stock, so I went back to this place which I've used for years in the past with a Camaro I used to own, and it's known by many in the local area to be conservative.

I'd like to see a bit more of a gain before I put any more parts on the car. Maybe this is it I don't know, just a little deflating when people claim quite a bit more, and I've seen guys get the gains you advertise but right now it ain't happenin' here.


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Here is an article about Shaun from AED and his tunes. Car only picked up 12 hp and 13 ft lb but .66 seconds on the 1/4. Not comparing AED to BAMA in any way, just pointing out that your gains aren't necessarily telling the whole story.

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Pretty interesting read,:especially the part about the front wheels robbing power.
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Over the weekend I already put the car back to stock and downloaded the new tunes for the new parts. Only way to dig into this further is if I have Bama send the tunes again and spend the time to sort it out, or just throw in the towel and install the new parts and tune and go from there.

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That is bama for you bud. Go with someone like AED, rev auto, lund, or VMP. Go with someone who has proved themselves to the tuning comunity. I like American muscle but BAMA is a joke

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That is bama for you bud. Go with someone like AED, rev auto, lund, or VMP. Go with someone who has proved themselves to the tuning comunity. I like American muscle but BAMA is a joke
I'm glad to hear that you've always had a good experience with AM. However, I'm sorry to hear that you're not a fan of Bama. We tune more 2011+ Mustangs than anyone else in the world so there's a good chance that you could see a few more complaints than the companies that you listed. Have you had a negative experience with Bama? If so, Shoot me a PM with your order number and I'll make sure you're taken care of right away.

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I'm glad to hear that you've always had a good experience with AM. However, I'm sorry to hear that you're not a fan of Bama. We tune more 2011+ Mustangs than anyone else in the world so there's a good chance that you could see a few more complaints than the companies that you listed. Have you had a negative experience with Bama? If so, Shoot me a PM with your order number and I'll make sure you're taken care of right away.

If you've never ran a Bama tune I would happy be provide you with our 93 Octane Race tune for Free and you can give it a shot. If you don't like it, you don't have to ever use it again. Even if you do like it, you don't have to run the tune. I just would like you to experience a Bama tune on your car and give us your feedback!

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Yes i did have a bama tune,when i first got my car. Just not a fan of the way they try and tune the new 5.0's. They try and do it like the 3vs and cram timing in them. The coyotes do not like timing. Unless they are on e85 then thats a diffrent story. Bama may make good power on occasion on a dyno, but fall on there face on the track.

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I'm glad to hear that you've always had a good experience with AM. However, I'm sorry to hear that you're not a fan of Bama. We tune more 2011+ Mustangs than anyone else in the world so there's a good chance that you could see a few more complaints than the companies that you listed. Have you had a negative experience with Bama? If so, Shoot me a PM with your order number and I'll make sure you're taken care of right away.

If you've never ran a Bama tune I would happy be provide you with our 93 Octane Race tune for Free and you can give it a shot. If you don't like it, you don't have to ever use it again. Even if you do like it, you don't have to run the tune. I just would like you to experience a Bama tune on your car and give us your feedback!

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Your guys customer service is badass...I wouldn't think many companies do what you do to the lengths that you do. Makes me want to order a tuner this Friday...I've put it off long enough I guess.

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Yes i did have a bama tune,when i first got my car. Just not a fan of the way they try and tune the new 5.0's. They try and do it like the 3vs and cram timing in them. The coyotes do not like timing. Unless they are on e85 then thats a diffrent story. Bama may make good power on occasion on a dyno, but fall on there face on the track.
I completely understand. Thank you for giving Bama a try. We appreciate your business and loyalty. I'm sorry to hear that our tune just wasn't for you.

My offer still stands, though.. If you ran a Bama tune when you first got your Mustang I can guarantee you that we've done a ton of updates since then and it's no where near the same tune. I honestly think you'd like the tune! I run our 93H tune on my 2011 GT and was able to run 11.87 @ 119.7 on a 90* day with the DA at 2,700FT. My stock clutch and the weather were preventing me from going any faster.

Some of our early tunes were seeing a little bit more timing. However, for a long time now we've been commanding 25-26 degrees of timing. If your car needs to pull a degree or two out, we can definitely get you a new tune sent out right away!

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Your guys customer service is badass...I wouldn't think many companies do what you do to the lengths that you do. Makes me want to order a tuner this Friday...I've put it off long enough I guess.
Thank you for the kind words! I'm glad to hear that our Customer Service is drawing you closer to us. We really appreciate your business and loyalty!

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I apreciate it dan. I will not put à email tune on my car Now though to much $$ in it. Plus i do not think you do e85

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I apreciate it dan. I will not put à email tune on my car Now though to much $$ in it. Plus i do not think you do e85
ahh, no worries. We don't tune for E85 at this time. Sorry about that! Either way, enjoy your Mustang and let me know if you ever have any questions for me or need some assistance. I'd be happy to hook you up!

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Can a AM rep or maybe anyone that has worked with them tell me if a Bama tune disables rear o2s on a OR X pipe? I need someone that can tune with them on and change the values so they pass the readiness check on the PCM and still don't throw a CEL.

Also in regards to the problem with the tune of the OP, have you contacted BAMA about datalogging? It is very easy to pull info in the SCT tuner and email it out for a tuner to make adjustments.
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Can a AM rep or maybe anyone that has worked with them tell me if a Bama tune disables rear o2s on a OR X pipe? I need someone that can tune with them on and change the values so they pass the readiness check on the PCM and still don't throw a CEL.
No Bama does not have the ability to do that. You will have to contact a different tuner.
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Just an update, I threw in the towel on going back and forth with a datalog and just threw on the Boss manifold and CAI amd added the new tune for the new parts. Maybe these new parts will give me the 25-30 hp gain, at least I don't have any CEL's. I'll dyno again in a few weeks and see where it stands. Pulls great to 7500 now though.

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Dan,

I have given Bama chance after chance to give me a correct tune. Right now, I've lost over a second 0-60, rev limits at 6500, awful shift points, horrible throttle response. I've email Alex multiple times on the shift issue. No response, bama's customer service has been really bad and hurts you guys name when they do this. I don't know why they can't make simple adjustments and leave everything else alone. Guess I'll be trying steeda.
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I have given Bama chance after chance to give me a correct tune. Right now, I've lost over a second 0-60, rev limits at 6500, awful shift points, horrible throttle response. I've email Alex multiple times on the shift issue. No response, bama's customer service has been really bad and hurts you guys name when they do this. I don't know why they can't make simple adjustments and leave everything else alone. Guess I'll be trying steeda.
Bc they do not do custom tunes like they say they do. They use a hyped up canned tune. That they call custom. Try the steeda tune you will be alot more pleased. Are you looking for steeda bc of there tunes for life thing also?

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Yeah, and something that is consistent. Mine is all over the place
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