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Old 02-01-2014, 12:08 PM   #1
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What do you consider to be full bolt ons
and in what order would you purchase them..
My cars stock and I do plan to put a procharger supercharger on it.
But I think that may take a minute so In the mean time how can I have a " fun " summer.
whats all included in " Ford Mustang Full bolt ons "
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A tune, CAI(cold air intake), suspension mods, exhaust, that's all I can think of right now.
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Yeah that's what I was thinking
CAI and Throttle body - everyone tells me is pointless
Tune- definitely getting with my 4.10's
exhaust and headers was going to wait till I did the engine work since it will be pulled but I guess wouldn't hurt to get sooner then later
was considering under drive pullys
and once the eibach pro kit is back in stock will be adding that
but other then that not sure what else...
J mod possibly but not sure how confident I feel doing it.
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Exhaust is the first thing most people upgrade. Followed by a tuner, then gears. Then they get into obscure things you'll probably regret until a full engine build like TB, Pulleys, Plenum, Intake Manifold... Really the sky is the limit with what you want to do. But my primary concerns would be a short-throw shifter(if you have a 5-speed- I love my Steeda Tri-ax),suspension, gears, tuner, exhaust, rear tires. In that order pretty much. That's actually how I did it when I got my car since it was completely stock. I bought a new part pretty much every month since I was in college. Since getting out of college I've been able to buy really expensive things, obviously. Lol. But I started small and was really happy with where I went.
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yeah gears and tune and the eibach pro kit are going to be ordered this month.
then I have about 3 months to figure out what else to get.
Rims + tires are going to come once the snow goes.
I really want this engine rebuilt although it is in decent shape I would just rather have it running 100% and not have the thought in the back of my mind that Im loosing any gains or risking blowing it up cus its actually clapped out and Im not aware. Like I said I plan to procharge it once its bolted up id prefer to keep it that way if you hear me.
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yeah gears and tune and the eibach pro kit are going to be ordered this month.
then I have about 3 months to figure out what else to get.
Rims + tires are going to come once the snow goes.
I really want this engine rebuilt although it is in decent shape I would just rather have it running 100% and not have the thought in the back of my mind that Im loosing any gains or risking blowing it up cus its actually clapped out and Im not aware. Like I said I plan to procharge it once its bolted up id prefer to keep it that way if you hear me.
I feel ya. You seem to think a lot like I do. I forged the bottom end, threw in some stage 2 cams, did all the necessary supporting mods and had the engine running strong NA for about two weeks before I boosted it. If you go that way you won't have a doubt in your mind. I wouldn't boost a sotck non-rebuilt motor at all. Too much at risk. Haha.

Then again you're talking to a guy that is gonna be jumping out of helos for a living... So don't quote me on safety.
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Technically everything you do to a car bolts on. But to the term "bolt on" as us car enthusiasts use is usually just simple easy mods to a car "air intake throttle body, pulleys, exhaust, suspension, gears, tune, sometimes a clutch will be considered as a bolt on. Some people will even consider a supercharger a bolt on
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After you do intake and exhaust you should probably focus on suspension instead of getting the engine built tbh. That way you'll be plenty prepared for the power adders in the future


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if you read what I wrote I plan to do suspension and gears+ tune before anything.. I don't really want to get throttle body or cai because I don't know what I am going to go with turbo or blower and that could end up just wasting money, having parts I don't use.... Id rather build the car before the motor tbh . then slap a good power plant in and maintain her and be happy
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Full bolt ons to me is

Heads
Cams
Full exhaust
Dyno tune ( not that cheap junk bama tune )
Upgraded fuel system
TB
Plenum
Manifold
Pulleys
Drive shaft
Clutch
Fly wheel
Gears
31 spline axles
Short throw
Cold air intake
Bigger MAF
Maybe bigger injectors
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I'm not sure if I would consider heads and cams to be bolt-ons, as they really don't just un-bolt OEM part, bolt-on aftermarket etc.

But Slow4V has a nice list right there.
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Lol the blind leading the blind in this thread
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Lol the blind leading the blind in this thread

You got a better list? Dyno numbers? Explanation? Anything besides that lame remark?


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Cold air intake, throttle body, upper intake plenum, under drive pullies... This is what people mean when they generally refer to "bolt ons".

If you take it 100% literally then an entire engine build can be a bolt on because everything is literally bolted on, but that's not what people mean.

Simple modifications that are cheap and easy to do are bolt ons. Heads and cams are not basic bolt ons, supercharger is not a bolt on

Generally anything suspension isn't considered a bolt on either.

A bolt on is something that doesn't require supporting mods and generally is directed towards engine mods.
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Thread cleaned up..... Keep it on topic guys.
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Cold air intake, throttle body, upper intake plenum, under drive pullies... This is what people mean when they generally refer to "bolt ons".

If you take it 100% literally then an entire engine build can be a bolt on because everything is literally bolted on, but that's not what people mean.

Simple modifications that are cheap and easy to do are bolt ons. Heads and cams are not basic bolt ons, supercharger is not a bolt on

Generally anything suspension isn't considered a bolt on either.

A bolt on is something that doesn't require supporting mods and generally is directed towards engine mods.
+1 this guy said it best by far.

And a CAI and TB are never a waist of money as long as you have the supporting bolt ons also. They will do their part as the puzzle is completed. Something I never see anyone say tho... your MAF must be larger than your TB. Closer in size the better but the MAF must be larger otherwise its not allowing the full amount of air that the TB can handle.
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+1 this guy said it best by far.



And a CAI and TB are never a waist of money as long as you have the supporting bolt ons also. They will do their part as the puzzle is completed. Something I never see anyone say tho... your MAF must be larger than your TB. Closer in size the better but the MAF must be larger otherwise its not allowing the full amount of air that the TB can handle.

Generally the MAF will be as you don't want your TB way too big on an NA motor with just minor mods.
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Generally the MAF will be as you don't want your TB way too big on an NA motor with just minor mods.
Yes I know this but I see a lot of ppl that dont know this. That's why I made the point to say it.
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Yes I know this but I see a lot of ppl that dont know this. That's why I made the point to say it.

Yea I was just agreeing with you.
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Yea I was just agreeing with you.
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Full bolt ons
What do you consider to be full bolt ons
and in what order would you purchase them..
My cars stock and I do plan to put a procharger supercharger on it.
But I think that may take a minute so In the mean time how can I have a " fun " summer.
whats all included in " Ford Mustang Full bolt ons "
The only thing I didn't see listed above, besides just buying a new car, is brakes. If your plan is to put that much beef under the hood, upgrading rotors, at least, or all new rotors/calipers may not be a bad idea. Of course, all of this really should depend on how you plan on driving. Track/street-track/DD? Highway, in town? All should be considered, otherwise you can just pick someone, and send them the money you'll spend because your mods will be wasted.

Just my opinion, but I HATE wasting money...
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Another factor in determining if a part is a bolt on is the amount of skill and tools required for the install. Most bolt ons require basic mechanical skills and can be bolted on with a few wrenches and sockets.
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Another factor in determining if a part is a bolt on is the amount of skill and tools required for the install. Most bolt ons require basic mechanical skills and can be bolted on with a few wrenches and sockets.

Exactly. Heads and cams listed earlier are NOT bolt ons.
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Exactly. Heads and cams listed earlier are NOT bolt ons.
There is no rule book that states what a bolt on is. Its all personal opinion. Heads and cams can be bolted on in your garage at home so "I" would consider them a bolt on.
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I consider, pretty much everything except for paint to be a "bolt on".

There are just different "degrees" of bolt ons...
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I think skill level determines what they consider a bolt on. For me, I would consider heads and intake a bolt on but I can pull am engine, rebuild it and have it running in the car again in a week. But to the novice, heads wouldn't be a bolt on. So let's all just agree to disagree...
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I think skill level determines what they consider a bolt on. For me, I would consider heads and intake a bolt on but I can pull am engine, rebuild it and have it running in the car again in a week. But to the novice, heads wouldn't be a bolt on. So let's all just agree to disagree...
+1, what he says...

I put a few engines in cars in the 70s. I will do it again on a 4-Eye Fox I am about to close on. But I'm not going to be putting heads or cams in my 2< year old 2013. I would leave that for the folks with better Skilz than I do.
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I suppose one could say that bolt-ons could also be considered ”supporting mods”?
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I suppose one could say that bolt-ons could also be considered ”supporting mods”?
Actually, that is a good description of what they are in todays high tech world.
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