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Old 02-10-2014, 06:51 PM   #1
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Bolt stuck in head....

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So my dilemma is that i broke a bolt off in my head. Where the thermostat bolts to it and i broke a ez out in too. Soooo after i figure out how to get that ez out out can i use heat to expand the head or you think it will warp? Its a 68 l6 im pretty sure the head is cast iron so will it crack if i heat it up? Or any one else i have and suggestions before i just drill it out and put a helicoil in?
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Idk if this was the right spot to put this... Oh well


So my dilemma is that i broke a bolt off in my head. Where the thermostat bolts to it and i broke a ez out in too. Soooo after i figure out how to get that ez out out can i use heat to expand the head or you think it will warp? Its a 68 l6 im pretty sure the head is cast iron so will it crack if i heat it up? Or any one else i have and suggestions before i just drill it out and put a helicoil in?

My 95 LT1 had a couple exhaust manifold bolts that broke off in head over time. Think it was common problem with them. I took it to the garage where I know the guys real well. One of the guys took his time and carefully built up some welds on top of the snapped off bolts and then welded a nut on top of that. He was then able to get the bolts out. The hardest part for him was there is no room to work on those 4th gen F-Bodies.
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Ty, I know the 66-68 cylinder head. Which one is it? You should be able to stick your hand in the opening on the head and feel the end of it. If you can, I'd say just drill it out. Then you could always rethread it.
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Ty, I know the 66-68 cylinder head. Which one is it? You should be able to stick your hand in the opening on the head and feel the end of it. If you can, I'd say just drill it out. Then you could always rethread it.

The problem is that its all the way in the block none of its out so i cant weld anything to it and i broke a ez out in so i cant drill it out ://
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Ty, I know the 66-68 cylinder head. Which one is it? You should be able to stick your hand in the opening on the head and feel the end of it. If you can, I'd say just drill it out. Then you could always rethread it.

The driver side thermostat housing bolt its on the front of the head
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Ty, first off, the thermostat does not bolt onto the block. It bolts onto the front of the cylinder head. Second, what I was saying is this... stick your hand in the thermostat's hole on the front of the head. If you feel inside the cylinder head, you should be able to feel the end of the bolt. Drill the bolt out (put a normal drill in the bolt hole) as you can reach into the cylinder head to pull it out when you drill it out. Then you can rethread the hole for the bolt.
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Ty, first off, the thermostat does not bolt onto the block. It bolts onto the front of the cylinder head. Second, what I was saying is this... stick your hand in the thermostat's hole on the front of the head. If you feel inside the cylinder head, you should be able to feel the end of the bolt. Drill the bolt out (put a normal drill in the bolt hole) as you can reach into the cylinder head to pull it out when you drill it out. Then you can rethread the hole for the bolt.

I meant the head and i understand whay you are saying. I drilled out a little of the bolt so i could use a ez out to spin it out but the ez broke and now i cannot drill out the rest of the bolt
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I meant the head and i understand whay you are saying. I drilled out a little of the bolt so i could use a ez out to spin it out but the ez broke and now i cannot drill out the rest of the bolt
Is the ez out actually jammed in or is it just too deep in the hole for you to get out. If it's the latter ( too deep) a good way to get it out is a pair of hobby tweezers. They taper to a very fine tip.
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No its stuck :/ iv tried everything i just need a supper hard drill bit i guess
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No its stuck :/ iv tried everything i just need a supper hard drill bit i guess
something else to try. Get a long, small flat head screwdriver and stick it in. See if you can get it next to the ezout (don't know how large an ezout you used) and then try and pry it free.
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Ive tried that too haha it literally broke off flush
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Ok, this might sound like a pain, but craftsman sells a set of really small bolt extractors. What if you drilled into the ezout and used one of those? Do you have a picture so I can see what your dealing with.
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That was my next thought but all the drill bits iv used have not been able to drill into it. I even bought some suppose to be able to drill into hardened steel and it just burned it up so im thinking of getting a diamond bit. I just tried to jb weld a bolt to it ill post a picture in a bit
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get a small tip nail set and tap the easy out in a removal direction it should losen it may take awhile don't hit it to hard just tapping
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Try a reverse drill bit . (Counter clockwise rotation)
You'll probably end up having to drill the whole bolt out so drill straight.
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get a small tip nail set and tap the easy out in a removal direction it should losen it may take awhile don't hit it to hard just tapping

Iv tired that ill give it another shot
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keep at it and it will come out...then you can drill it out and retap the threads
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Try a reverse drill bit . (Counter clockwise rotation)

You'll probably end up having to drill the whole bolt out so drill straight.

I got one of those too it just burned up the tip in like 30 seconds
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the ez out is harder then your drill bits you have to get that out first
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keep at it and it will come out...then you can drill it out and retap the threads

Haha im trying i just frustrated and the other problem is that its like a 1/4 inch in the hole so i cant get a good angle on it
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be patient take your time
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the ez out is harder then your drill bits you have to get that out first

Im trying too i got cobalt drill bit today it said itll drill into "hardened steel"
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that is tool steel that is stuck in your head if you are going to try to drill it use a slow speed drill an tapping oil or you will just burn up that bit...
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Ha well i had my drill on high... Ill slow it down i was spraying wd-40 on it haha while
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slower is better 400 or 500 rpms keep the bit cool cutting oil will work better has friction agents and it cools the bit
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Yep. Slow speed and some oil.
It would be helpful to be able to sharpen it as well.
Just go slow, your going to be in for a timeTrav.

And for god sakes, never use those stupid things again...
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I agree with straybullitt, don't use the ez out again. lol A google search for removing broken ez out revealed that they break alot, and EVERY case I read was someone trying to remove the broken bolt from either a thermostat or water pump.

Someone was suggesting a dremel with a ball bur bit.
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if you can make a divit in it go back to using the nail set the vibration may get it to loosen
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there is no way to get an ez out ez ....lol
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there is no way to get an ez out ez ....lol
There's no ez way to get an ez out easily?
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There's no ez way to get an ez out easily?
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I'd say ask Snap On if they have anything, but knowing the luck you're having any tool they give you might just snap off.
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I see an opportunity here... We need to design an Easy EZ Out Remover.
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I hear that ....
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