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Old 02-28-2014, 09:47 AM   #36
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Well the thread is about a modded 2V vs stock 3V!.. And was asked what it would take to beat a 3V!.. A full bolt on 2V will hang with a stock 3V, but you'll need a bit more to beat him!..
Again, this is subjective, what bolt ons, are you counting suspension/tires etc... My car is a "bolt on" 2V with suspension work and sticky tires out back. I will come out of the hole faster than a LOT of "stock" cars making much more power than I am. Like I said before, driver mod and total setup are important to consider. Example is a person on here putting a KB 2.1 on a 2V. Ok great, car will make 400whp easy but IIRC they still have a stock suspension. I would win a light to light race vs that person until they get some suspension and tires done to the car and that is just fact. That car with suspension would hand me my ***. And if that person does have or is getting suspension then that is good. Example is still valid tho.
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Again, this is subjective, what bolt ons, are you counting suspension/tires etc... My car is a "bolt on" 2V with suspension work and sticky tires out back. I will come out of the hole faster than a LOT of "stock" cars making much more power than I am. Like I said before, driver mod and total setup are important to consider. Example is a person on here putting a KB 2.1 on a 2V. Ok great, car will make 400whp easy but IIRC they still have a stock suspension. I would win a light to light race vs that person until they get some suspension and tires done to the car and that is just fact. That car with suspension would hand me my ***. And if that person does have or is getting suspension then that is good. Example is still valid tho.

I would never have thought suspension really matters that much on a light to light race. I guess the mainstream thought is "I'll make more hp and tq, so I'll win."
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I would never have thought suspension really matters that much on a light to light race. I guess the mainstream thought is "I'll make more hp and tq, so I'll win."
The mainstream is full of idiots.
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How could you not do suspension? That's the thing I don't understand. You get a sexy looking stance and better stability and traction at the same time.
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How could you not do suspension? That's the thing I don't understand. You get a sexy looking stance and better stability and traction at the same time.
Because ppl are just concered with their dyno sheet or the way it feels on a rolling pull or whatever. Then they get their doors blown off by someone making substantially less power than them and can't figure out why. Witness countless SRT-8 owners.
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The mainstream is full of idiots.
Exactly why i'm going with my SFCs, Panhard Bar, Torque arm, and LCAs before I put in my gears (which happen to be waiting for me at home).
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Exactly why i'm going with my SFCs, Panhard Bar, Torque arm, and LCAs before I put in my gears (which happen to be waiting for me at home).
I'm honestly considering just going all out suspension, IRS, DIY cams and a QH tune with this thing to have a nice 300whp (ish) street car instead of Tork Tech. That's what my 95 Cobra was and I had a blast DDing that thing. Motor only has around 75k on it with near new heads/brand new intake so there is a ton left in it.
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Because ppl are just concered with their dyno sheet or the way it feels on a rolling pull or whatever. Then they get their doors blown off by someone making substantially less power than them and can't figure out why. Witness countless SRT-8 owners.
It's pretty sad how much of a one track mind people will get
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It's pretty sad how much of a one track mind people will get
I like to think I have at least 1.5 tracks, possibly 2 on a good day.
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This summer I'm doing full exhaust and full suspension to my 3v. Engine will still be stock (besides tune). This is all I feel my 3v "needs" to perform (and sound) well. If I decide to add hp down the road I should have a good base to work with.
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This summer I'm doing full exhaust and full suspension to my 3v. Engine will still be stock (besides tune). This is all I feel my 3v "needs" to perform (and sound) well. If I decide to add hp down the road I should have a good base to work with.
A bolt on 3V with a 93 octane tune should be right around a 300whp car. Couple that with a good suspension setup and you should have a really fun ride. Hot cams add a solid 20-30whp but you have to get a custom dyno tune for those, bama/steeda/canned tuners usually won't tune for cams.
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