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Old 03-13-2014, 09:35 AM   #1
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87 Octane Bama tune

My parents won't let me put 93 Octane in my car I have a 2014 v6 with the 87 Octane performance in my area the gas stations only sell 87 89 and 93 Octane fuel but my bama race tune says it takes 91 Octane can I buy the Octane booster from the store and put it in with my 87 Octane and tune my car for race?
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put 93 in if your tune is for 91 and all you can get is 93...
parents wont let you put good gas in the car they paid for
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put 93 in if your tune is for 91 and all you can get is 93...
parents wont let you put good gas in the car they paid for
smh -_-
I paid for it and they pay for my insurance and gas.

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My parents won't let me put 93 Octane in my car I have a 2014 v6 with the 87 Octane performance in my area the gas stations only sell 87 89 and 93 Octane fuel but my bama race tune says it takes 91 Octane can I buy the Octane booster from the store and put it in with my 87 Octane and tune my car for race?
I wouldn't recommend using an octane booster to go from 87 to 93. There's octane boosters are suppose to raise the flash point of your fuel this high, but 87 fuel doesn't respond very well in most situations. You would be better off putting 89octane in the tank with an octane booster, but even still I don't recommend it.

If all you're able to run is 87octane, than I'd just stick with the 87octane tune. That's what the tune was designed for and will behave perfectly.

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I wouldn't recommend using an octane booster to go from 87 to 93. There's octane boosters are suppose to raise the flash point of your fuel this high, but 87 fuel doesn't respond very well in most situations. You would be better off putting 89octane in the tank with an octane booster, but even still I don't recommend it.

If all you're able to run is 87octane, than I'd just stick with the 87octane tune. That's what the tune was designed for and will behave perfectly.

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Since they are paying for your gas, they probably want to keep their costs down. Understandable. Maybe you can work it out with them that you will put 93 in but pay them the difference in cost between 87 and 93 when you fill up. If it's difficult to keep track of the different in cost each time you fill up, maybe you can agree on a set price difference, like 50 cents per gallon or whatever the difference usually averages in your area. If you give them a good price they might be more willing to do it, and if they are already paying your insurance and gas it's a good way to show them you appreciate them helping you out. My guess is, they gave you a gas card or something and then they just get the bill in the mail.
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Side note, I see in your sig you like street racing. If you want them to keep paying your insurance, you might want to not engage in that activity, especially at 17. I'm sure your insurance is already high based on age and car, a ticket or two will shoot it through the roof, and that's not even considering an accident. Also, the forum frowns on street racing.
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There's multiple adjustments in the tune from one to the other. The main things are ignition timing and a little different fueling. There's a very noticeable power output different and throttle response between the two tunes as well.

Hope this clears things up for you!

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It was the same for my car. I paid for the car, they cover insurance and gas (i cover my own gas now though). I got a tuner and set it to 91 and reasonsed with my parents. 91 is generally $0.20 more than 87 in my area. So generally I fill up 13 gallons every 2 weeks or so. Which means for a full tank lasting 2 weeks its an extra $2.60, that is for better gas which will perform better and make the car last a bit longer. Try reasoning with them.
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Just load the tune anyways and don't tell tell. It's just gas


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Side note, I see in your sig you like street racing. If you want them to keep paying your insurance, you might want to not engage in that activity, especially at 17. I'm sure your insurance is already high based on age and car, a ticket or two will shoot it through the roof, and that's not even considering an accident. Also, the forum frowns on street racing.
Thanks for the Info and I'm sorry you frown against racing mustangs...

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The forum does not frown on racing Mustangs bro, the frown is on street racing.
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They don't mind closed course racing like drag strips and such, just not on the street.
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For starters, DO NOT load a tune that is designed for higher octane than what you have in your tank (i.e. 87 in the tank, don't load a 89/91/93 octane tune). I mean, unless you want to blow your motor. I wouldn't mess with octane boosters either.

Honestly, just roll with the 87 performance. It'll be enough. I think your parents are being a little closed-minded though, cheap gas ain't good for one's car. It can be dirty, have less [safe] additives that may make your car run like poop. I only fill up with Shell 93 because it's clean and my car responds best with the 93. The icing on the cake is I get to run a 93 tune with a little better performance.

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Talk with your parents an provide information. Tell them better gas mileage with higher octane(it makes up for the extra cost), and it will keep your investments motor in better shape.
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For starters, DO NOT load a tune that is designed for higher octane than what you have in your tank (i.e. 87 in the tank, don't load a 89/91/93 octane tune). I mean, unless you want to blow your motor. I wouldn't mess with octane boosters either.

Honestly, just roll with the 87 performance. It'll be enough. I think your parents are being a little closed-minded though, cheap gas ain't good for one's car. It can be dirty, have less [safe] additives that may make your car run like poop. I only fill up with Shell 93 because it's clean and my car responds best with the 93. The icing on the cake is I get to run a 93 tune with a little better performance.

Maybe reason with your parents?
I fill up only with shell gas also but 87....

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They don't mind closed course racing like drag strips and such, just not on the street.
But it usually ends up being a red light haha

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For starters, DO NOT load a tune that is designed for higher octane than what you have in your tank (i.e. 87 in the tank, don't load a 89/91/93 octane tune). I mean, unless you want to blow your motor. I wouldn't mess with octane boosters either.

Honestly, just roll with the 87 performance. It'll be enough. I think your parents are being a little closed-minded though, cheap gas ain't good for one's car. It can be dirty, have less [safe] additives that may make your car run like poop. I only fill up with Shell 93 because it's clean and my car responds best with the 93. The icing on the cake is I get to run a 93 tune with a little better performance.

Maybe reason with your parents?
Also what kind of gains do you think I got using 87 performance tune

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Racing Mustangs at a track is one thing. There they have proper preparation, so there isn't going to be debris or oil on the track which can cause you to suddenly lose traction. There is also no chance of someone running out in the street randomly and you having to slam on your brakes, and if something were to happen you would hit a concrete wall at the side rather than slide onto a sidewalk and hitting a mom pushing a stroller. They have EMTs on site if something does happen, not like on the street where you will have a gushing leg, or broken bones for quite a while before help arrives.

Overall racing on the street is just plain dumb, to many variables and anything can happen.

But what do I know? I'm just a 19 year old kid who worked hard for their Mustang and with a clean record, defensive driving courses, and a good student discount I still can't get full coverage on my car because of how ungodly expensive it is.... because of people like you.

Thank you very much for being a "statistic".

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You'll learn one of these days, whether its a ticket or an accident

Some people just have to find things out on their own...Unfortunately at that point, the damage is done.
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You can only have so much fun on the street until you hopefully get to a point and say "Okay, this is not worth mine or someone's life, and I am very fortunate to drive this car, let's not ruin it."
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Don't blame people, blame greedy corporations. They are just discriminating and putting everyone in the same pool based on their gender. It's not right but that's them being greedy..

Street racing can be a lot more dangerous. I live in the city now for college and would never street race here. Too many vehicles, cops, and people... I use to live in the country where the only thing you saw was deer. No vehicles no cops no people. I am not making a point for street racing but if you think if I was putting others at risk and am a bad person for running it with some friends and the stars, then gfy. There's responsible ways to do anything. There wasn't a track at my town. Even the town would only get 2-3 car build ups at red lights. I have the right to put myself in danger if I want.

Don't judge a person for wanting to have fun, because you don't know their situation. I've seen 8 year old mustang threads abt red light racing.. Now People are just too damn sensitive.
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You can only have so much fun on the street until you hopefully get to a point and say "Okay, this is not worth mine or someone's life, and I am very fortunate to drive this car, let's not ruin it."

I agree I think people will grow out of it. You prolly didn't get condemned and mobbed on for doing it though. You learned, and stopped. How are people to learn if everyone is mobbing someone that is doing it (especially a kid)

I am still wondering how a person can lose control of a 30-40mph red light race lol.

"When you give up your freedom for security, you deserve neither." One of my favorite quotes.

I love all the mustang owners on here and the forums themselves, but damn. We own a sports car for Gods sake
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Don't blame people, blame greedy corporations. They are just discriminating and putting everyone in the same pool based on their gender. It's not right but that's them being greedy..

Street racing can be a lot more dangerous. I live in the city now for college and would never street race here. Too many vehicles, cops, and people... I use to live in the country where the only thing you saw was deer. No vehicles no cops no people. I am not making a point for street racing but if you think if I was putting others at risk and am a bad person for running it with some friends and the stars, then gfy. There's responsible ways to do anything. There wasn't a track at my town. Even the town would only get 2-3 car build ups at red lights. I have the right to put myself in danger if I want.

Don't judge a person for wanting to have fun, because you don't know their situation. I've seen 8 year old mustang threads abt red light racing.. Now People are just too damn sensitive.

I'm just trying to give the kid advice.

1. He's been a member less than a month and has street racing in his signature in a forum that warns about talking about it.

2. He's lucky to have his parents paying for his insurance. They might not when his already high insurance based on his age and vehicle he drives doubles. I don't know what his current rates are, but I know it's not cheap just because of who he is and what he drives. That's common knowledge.
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While I agree with this statement, choosing to street race doesn't just put yourself in danger. Just because an area seems clear, it may not be.
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While I agree with this statement, choosing to street race doesn't just put yourself in danger. Just because an area seems clear, it may not be.
While I can assure you it was clear - even if it wasn't, are we not humans? Not able to react? Our cars slow down pretty quick, plenty quick to react to seeing something. Can we not dodge it? Move? I mean there are so many variable to any situation in life, and honestly you could kill a pedestrian or hit another car just as easily if you weren't street racing. I actually think that you are more aware and careful of your surroundings when racing because you are way more concentrated. Rather than relaxed and not worrying about pedestrians/cars. Point taken though, I understand your thought process.
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I'm just trying to give the kid advice.

1. He's been a member less than a month and has street racing in his signature in a forum that warns about talking about it.

2. He's lucky to have his parents paying for his insurance. They might not when his already high insurance based on his age and vehicle he drives doubles. I don't know what his current rates are, but I know it's not cheap just because of who he is and what he drives. That's common knowledge.
I didn't point my comment at you, I know that he was just told the rules by you. He is very lucky for his parents paying for his insurance. I guarantee he understand **** would be bad if he got in an accident. He would pay for that mistake, and his parents would too. His parents know the risk they take by insuring a mustang. I am aware that his rates are stupid high (I drive a GT under full coverage.)

Point is, people and kids have to learn. Believe it or not you learned not to touch hot things. It's part of growing up. If his parents wanted to they could get a driving tracker, or a limiter on speeds his car can go. Doesn't look like they've done that.
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While I can assure you it was clear - even if it wasn't, are we not humans? Not able to react? Our cars slow down pretty quick, plenty quick to react to seeing something. Can we not dodge it? Move? I mean there are so many variable to any situation in life, and honestly you could kill a pedestrian or hit another car just as easily if you weren't street racing. I actually think that you are more aware and careful of your surroundings when racing because you are way more concentrated. Rather than relaxed and not worrying about pedestrians/cars. Point taken though, I understand your thought process.
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Don't blame people, blame greedy corporations. They are just discriminating and putting everyone in the same pool based on their gender. It's not right but that's them being greedy..

Street racing can be a lot more dangerous. I live in the city now for college and would never street race here. Too many vehicles, cops, and people... I use to live in the country where the only thing you saw was deer. No vehicles no cops no people. I am not making a point for street racing but if you think if I was putting others at risk and am a bad person for running it with some friends and the stars, then gfy. There's responsible ways to do anything. There wasn't a track at my town. Even the town would only get 2-3 car build ups at red lights. I have the right to put myself in danger if I want.

Don't judge a person for wanting to have fun, because you don't know their situation. I've seen 8 year old mustang threads abt red light racing.. Now People are just too damn sensitive.
Thanks bro and you're right I don't live in the city haha I'm in the outskirts of Texas we have wide open plane's and lots of cows

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Watch out for those animals though... Deer, cows, hogs total out cars and recently I saw on the news one cow escaped and totaled 3 cars
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I suggest everyone returns to the original topic, or I bet this thread will vanish quickly.

And I know one of the mods (bucko I believe) sister got killed by a street race accident. So let's drop the conversation and stay on topic.
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I suggest everyone returns to the original topic, or I bet this thread will vanish quickly.

And I know one of the mods (bucko I believe) sister got killed by a street race accident. So let's drop the conversation and stay on topic.

While that is tragic, hundreds of people died yesterday due to regular accidents.

Not being insensitive, I am sad for that fact and I will pray for him. That's exactly why I said it's situational. I would NEVER race in a city like what I'm in now. I can see disaster written all over it. Some people do and it's irresponsible.

Let's get back to the topic: I think the consensus here was either reason with you parents on 93 fuel or be happy with your brand new car, and be happy with the 87 tune.
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Going to 93 is only like 25 or 30 cents extra a gallon. Thats what I put in my GT.
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Going to 93 is only like 25 or 30 cents extra a gallon. Thats what I put in my GT.
It's around 30 for me in Indy.
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