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Old 04-04-2014, 12:16 AM   #1
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Advice for better MPG?

I have a 2005 Mustang GT, and according to everything everywhere I should be getting about 16-23ish MPG...I get 12...on a good day. I don't red line my car very often, I even tried short shifting for awhile, and skipping gears for awhile, nothing helped. I replaced my air filter and it helped a little bit, but barely. Does anyone have advice on what I could do? An RPM to shift at while in gas saving mode? Also any parts that I could/should replace to improve MPG? Thank you!!
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Get a prius. You got a v8 man, thats the cost of owning a sweet car.

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Get a prius. You got a v8 man, thats the cost of owning a sweet car.

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Haha I know man lol, smiles per gallon over miles per gallon haha. But 12 is steep lol, I know other GT owners getting 18, close buddy of mine gets 26. The gas station is gonna start charging me rent soon.
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I hear ya man, I always, no matter how easy I drive my car get 5-10 less miles per gallon than other people. I reckon you can't get the v8 sound without stopping at nearly every gas station you go bye.

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I hear ya man, I always, no matter how easy I drive my car get 5-10 less miles per gallon than other people. I reckon you can't get the v8 sound without stopping at nearly every gas station you go bye.

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Everyone I've ever met says my car sounds like a V6 lol. Flow master 44s on stock everything doesn't do me much justice. If I had the V8 grumble maybe my poor gas mileage would be ok. Maybe. Lololol.
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YIKES!!!!!

12 is bad.

I have a F-250 with a built big block that gets better mpg than THAT!
Something must be wrong. How many miles are on your car? Is the air filter the only thing, as far as tune-up parts, that has been replaced that you are aware of?
All stock? No tune, CAI... nothing?
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12 is bad.



I have a F-250 with a built big block that gets better mpg than THAT!

Something must be wrong. How many miles are on your car? Is the air filter the only thing, as far as tune-up parts, that has been replaced that you are aware of?

All stock? No tune, CAI... nothing?

No tunes or nothing, I just replaced my air filter recently. Only performance mods are a Aid raid throttle body spacer and flowmaster super 44 axle backs. Currently I'm at 76,XXX miles, idk what's causing my poor gas mileage. I could drive super hard doing pulls everywhere, and super calm not over 2.5K RPM and get similar if not worse gas mileage than when I drive like a prick lol.
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Did you clean the MAF when you changed that filter? It should be cleaned every filter change.
Id do a scan for codes, there may be one pending that hasn't triggered the CEL.
Your car MUST be running too rich to be using so much fuel. Can you smell any fuel smell from the exhaust?
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Did you clean the MAF when you changed that filter? It should be cleaned every filter change.

Id do a scan for codes, there may be one pending that hasn't triggered the CEL.

Your car MUST be running too rich to be using so much fuel. Can you smell any fuel smell from the exhaust?

I'm just now starting to learn about cars and maintaining them, so I'm unsure on the MAF haha, I'll get my old man to help me with it when we get the time, with school and work and what not. And negative on the fuel smell in the exhaust, just smells like every other exhaust.
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This forum is an excellent place to learn.
MAF=Mass Airflow sensor. Its right there next to the air filter, screwed onto the mass airflow meter. If it gets too dirty, it can affect the air/fuel mixture. Its very simple to clean. There's probably a YouTube vid on how to do it.
As a point of reference, my Bullitt easily gets the 18/city 25/hwy that Ford said it would. It's much worse when driven hard but I never get less than around 18.
Pretend that you have a raw egg in between your foot and the accelerator pedal, and you are desperately trying to not break the egg... Drive around like that for a week and see if anything changes.
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Clean maf element like was said, make sure your tires are inflated properly, that is a way bigger deal than ppl realize. I overinflate my truck by 3-5 psi and it helps drastically but you don't want to go too much or it'll wear funny. I keep the Mustang around 35 psi. You can also do a drain/fill on your transmission with some better fluid and make sure you fill to any updated specs. I know for the 01-04 models Tremec had to update the fill from 3.8 quarts to 3.2 quarts because it was causing windage problems. Not sure what the 05-10 fill is but check.

Then seafoam it and see what that gets you. We were just discussing seafoam in another thread actually.
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This forum is an excellent place to learn.
MAF=Mass Airflow sensor. Its right there next to the air filter, screwed onto the mass airflow meter. If it gets too dirty, it can affect the air/fuel mixture. Its very simple to clean. There's probably a YouTube vid on how to do it.
As a point of reference, my Bullitt easily gets the 18/city 25/hwy that Ford said it would. It's much worse when driven hard but I never get less than around 18.
Pretend that you have a raw egg in between your foot and the accelerator pedal, and you are desperately trying to not break the egg... Drive around like that for a week and see if anything changes.

I did that for a solid month and my gas mileage actually got worse. I got 12ish MPG while driving like that, but then I got really bored with some friends one day and drove like a typical teenager and my MPG went up from that. (My car is an 05 premium, and it tells me my MPG on the dash).
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12 is bad.



I have a F-250 with a built big block that gets better mpg than THAT!

Something must be wrong. How many miles are on your car? Is the air filter the only thing, as far as tune-up parts, that has been replaced that you are aware of?

All stock? No tune, CAI... nothing?

This might be a stupid question, but does the gas I use effect the MPG? My dad makes me run 91 premium, but the car has no tune and it's all stock (except throttle body spacer). If I ran 87 would that improve it? Or no?
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I'm getting like 18 city 26-30 on the highway doing 60

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I did that for a solid month and my gas mileage actually got worse. I got 12ish MPG while driving like that, but then I got really bored with some friends one day and drove like a typical teenager and my MPG went up from that. (My car is an 05 premium, and it tells me my MPG on the dash).
Lol.
Hey, whatever works for you!

Try hand calculating your MPG's by dividing the amount of miles traveled by the number of gallons used, the next time you fill up.
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This might be a stupid question, but does the gas I use effect the MPG? My dad makes me run 91 premium, but the car has no tune and it's all stock (except throttle body spacer). If I ran 87 would that improve it? Or no?
Yes, the octane rating can affect your gas mileage. If you are not tuned for 91 octane, you may actually get slightly LESS mpg's.
There is actually more energy in a gallon of 87 octane fuel than there is in a gallon of 91 octane because the 91 has an additive to make it burn slower.
You should notice no difference in performance running 87 octane gasoline in a properly running stock engine.
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Yes, the octane rating can affect your gas mileage. If you are not tuned for 91 octane, you may actually get slightly LESS mpg's.

There is actually more energy in a gallon of 87 octane fuel than there is in a gallon of 91 octane because the 91 has an additive to make it burn slower.

You should notice no difference in performance running 87 octane gasoline in a properly running stock engine.

Alright, thanks! I'll be sure to use 87 from now on until I can get a 91 tune.
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This may sound far fetched but unplug the battery for 15-20 minutes and remove the throttle body spacer. The throttle body spacer could be messing with the computer. And I agree with the 87 octane. My 06gt vert auto got around 18-24mpg.
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My bolt on 2V with the stock factory tune and 19lb injectors gets 20mpg hand calculated with a mix of "spirited" and normal driving. If I really grandma drove it I'd probably get 22-24mpg. My 95 Cobra with the stock 3.08 gears in the back could get over 25mpg easy on the highway doing 75 mph. Before I did the HCI and it was just a bolt on car with a fox A9L computer it would go right through the sniffer every time, get that same mileage keeping it under 70 with the 3.73s and run a high 12 on ET streets.

Sniffer test in NJ has got worse for pre 96 cars though which is why I'm in a modular. Really thinking of getting back into a pushrod though, they are just easier to work on IMO. Although I love the 2V. And if I did get back into one I'd be swapping everything over from this car to that one and then selling this to become cost neutral which actually is not a bad idea...
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Get a SCT or bama Tuner.
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I get around 18 to 23 in my 07gt. 12 sounds pretty low especially of you aren't even getting on it. I havnt been able to stay out of the throttle for a whole tank to calculate it exactly.
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I'm getting 14.2 in my 14 gt... Womppp
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There are numerous factors involved with fuel efficiency. If you do a lot of stop and go driving, your mileage will drop like a rock. If you drive interstate with really low gears, mileage drops. There is a reason why manufacturers are going to cars that stop and start the engine every time the car come to a pause. Other factors include the tire brand and model, any issue with the drive train, like lightly dragging brakes, or transmission slippage.
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I'm getting 14.2 in my 14 gt... Womppp

That must be a lot of city or track driving to get that low...sounds like you're having fun.
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Keep your foot out of it. /thread.
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Keep your foot out of it. /thread.
Seriously, this is spot on ^

I've seen as high as 23mpg and as low as 11mpg in my 2v. Its usually fairly spirited driving so i average around 16mpg mixed about 50/50.
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Weight reduction:

1) Remove parts until the engine quits running. Then replace the last part removed.

2) No fat people as passengers

3) Remove the spacer; doubtful it's doing any real good.
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Weight reduction:

1) Remove parts until the engine quits running. Then replace the last part removed.

2) No fat people as passengers

3) Remove the spacer; doubtful it's doing any real good.

This is true ^ less weight means the engine doesn't have to work as hard. Less work means better mpg.
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Don't know if anyone's mentioned regular maintenance:

* Oil+oil filter
* Air filter (don't forget cabin air filter too)
* All fluids
* Fuel filter
* Tire pressure
* Spark plugs etc.

For this you can just go to a Ford dealership and ask for "The Works" service where they can replace all the aforementioned, rotate your tires, check your hoses, etc. etc. It won't rape your wallet either.

Don't use cheap dirty gas either, you'll pay less than i.e. Shell gas but get fewer miles out of that tank (did my own testing). See Top Tier Gas. You can also try the sea foaming method to clean out engine gunk in your motor.
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I get my gas at Costco or the af base only. Too many cases of bad gas or 87 in all the tanks around here. I still keep my receipts even though I run 87 on a stock tune right now. My 95 needed premium so it's force of habit.

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I get my gas at Costco or the af base only. Too many cases of bad gas or 87 in all the tanks around here. I still keep my receipts even though I run 87 on a stock tune right now. My 95 needed premium so it's force of habit.

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+1 on Costco, nice and cheap gas. I like Chevron but that sh*ts so damn expensive.
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Sounds like the OP was going strictly by the LOM which is useless. I can make mine read 99mpg or 5mpg depending on when I reset it. I would bet he isn't get anywhere near 12mpg, neither my '08 Bullitt or '10 GT could get under 20 and that was/is when I am driving pretty hard. I'm betting he was resetting the LOM constantly and every stop light he hit it would tank. so he'd reset again. Longer you leave it alone the more accurate it will be. If he is truly getting 12mpg he should be getting well under 200 miles to a tank, I get that in half a tank most times.
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+1 on Costco, nice and cheap gas. I like Chevron but that sh*ts so damn expensive.
Yeah, Shell is costing me $50 fill ups lately.
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All of the different brands of gasoline come from the same refinery. It is transported in the same pipelines and is all stored in the same tanks at the refinery. Many times, the same truck that delivers the fuel to the highest priced, "boutique blend" gas station that you can think of, also delivers the fuel to the gas station that you think has the "crap gas".
All gasoline is basically the same... In this country anyway.
Some different brands have the guy delivering the fuel squirt some of their proprietary additive in the tanker to mix with the gasoline but you could very well be getting some Costco additive mixed with Chevron or vice versa.

Quick story.
The airport in my home town used to have two different brands of aviation fuel available, Chevron and Texaco. Chevron seemed like the favorite but different aircraft owners have different ideas about what's best for their baby, and some would flat out refuse to use one brand or the other.
It wasn't commonly known but there was only one tank at that airport that both the Chevron and Texaco dealers drew their aviation gasoline from... The same was true for the jet fuel tank. It was all the same fuel... which came from the Chevron refinery.
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Lol, JetA is JetA, JP4 is JP4 and whatever the hell the derka derka shows up with in a truck that looks like its about to fall apart has always seemed to burn fine in our PW F117s. The hard part is getting the "pointy talky" right lol.

I only try to stay at the Costco or the base because I know that Costco has never been one of those gas stations listed as putting 87 in all their tanks and the base is supposed to test each truck too to make sure they are putting 93 in the 93. There have been TOO MANY gas stations around here putting 87 in all their tanks and that is the reason I save my receipts. Keeping up that habit for when I eventually need 93 again. If you blow up due to running regular in your car that needs 93 and you have a receipt showing you paid for 93 and you get an octane test done and find 87 in your tank... well... you've got a free engine coming your way if your lawyer is worth anything.
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