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Old 08-14-2008, 03:07 PM   #36
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Re: Hemi Challenger vs GT500 . . . .

actually one of the main MM drivers said a well setup IRS is much better on the tracks they tested vs live axle. Overall the best setup is IRS when done right for autox.
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actually one of the main MM drivers said a well setup IRS is much better on the tracks they tested vs live axle. Overall the best setup is IRS when done right for autox.
Damn, there goes my trip to MM...looks like they did get the memo after all.
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actually one of the main MM drivers said a well setup IRS is much better on the tracks they tested vs live axle. Overall the best setup is IRS when done right for autox.
Maybe it's better overall, but it doesn't mean that:

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When you look at cars that are meant to do more turning than a u-turn up the return road at the track, they are IRS cars.
MM has plenty of solid axle cars that would wipe the floor with most IRS cars on a road track.
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Re: Hemi Challenger vs GT500 . . . .

Yeah but if they built a IRS car it would leave solid axle cars in the dust
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Yeah but if they built a IRS car it would leave solid axle cars in the dust
On a bumpy track? Maybe. Otherwise, the extra weight may hurt them more than the slightly improved handling.
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Re: Hemi Challenger vs GT500 . . . .

didnt think about it that way with the weight
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didnt think about it that way with the weight
~100-125 pounds difference when you use the good stuff (like vettes) vs economical stuff (like ford).

But it's a good thing all tracks are as smooth as ice...
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~100-125 pounds difference when you use the good stuff (like vettes) vs economical stuff (like ford).
Didnt know there was that much of a difference. That substancial.
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Didnt know there was that much of a difference. That substancial.
When you look at the one in the cobras, you're looking at around 150-175 pounds difference. It is a massive frame...
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Re: Hemi Challenger vs GT500 . . . .

thats 1.5 secs in the 1/4
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Re: Hemi Challenger vs GT500 . . . .

according to the motor trend dodge challenger srt8 vs. ford shelby
gt500 specs. comparison, dodge weighed 4137 lbs. ford weighed
3887 lbs. dodge 1/4 mile times were 13.1 sec. @ 108.3 mph.
ford 1/4 times were 12.6 sec. @ 114.2 mph. So according to Motor
Trend ford is lighter & faster, and has a $700 lower gas guzzler tax.
Test dated 6/29/08
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I had the pleasure of driving a new challenger tonight. I really like the overall appearance of the car and I think its the best vehicle (since the viper) to be built by Dodge.I love the retro styling with the modern amenities and Im sure it will handle great with the IRS and the wide 20" wheels. The car is smooth under throttle and sounds very nice when you get over zealous with the go pedal.We will be straping it down to our dyno once it has a few miles on it and when the cai,exhaust,tuning software comes in Ill post up some pics and follow up .
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I had the pleasure of driving a new challenger tonight. I really like the overall appearance of the car and I think its the best vehicle (since the viper) to be built by Dodge.I love the retro styling with the modern amenities and Im sure it will handle great with the IRS and the wide 20" wheels. The car is smooth under throttle and sounds very nice when you get over zealous with the go pedal.We will be straping it down to our dyno once it has a few miles on it and when the cai,exhaust,tuning software comes in Ill post up some pics and follow up .
Sweet deal....i can't wait to see those numbers
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Re: Hemi Challenger vs GT500 . . . .

wow that article really sums it up! i love the terms he used to discribe both cars.
this is a must read!
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Maybe it's better overall, but it doesn't mean that:
MM has plenty of solid axle cars that would wipe the floor with most IRS cars on a road track.
without a doubt, but in their testing with the best setup for live axle vs IRS they had consistent faster times on the IRS... in the end its better at most things (not everything) but its more expensive to get there (so they say)
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Re: Hemi Challenger vs GT500 . . . .

ohhhh this is made my steve saleen. GREAT that means hell want my first born for this car! lol or an arm or a leg! His cars are always unatainable unless your rich!
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ohhhh this is made my steve saleen. GREAT that means hell want my first born for this car! lol or an arm or a leg! His cars are always unatainable unless your rich!
I think you're understimating the donations you will need to give for the Saleen tax...First born = the shelby tax....Saleen tax = first born, spouse, mother, grand mother, and first 3 grand children.
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I think you're understimating the donations you will need to give for the Saleen tax...First born = the shelby tax....Saleen tax = first born, spouse, mother, grand mother, and first 3 grand children.
Dam it not the grand childeren! come on thats asking too much now lol

i remember asking about a saleen like 2 years ago. i went and saw a dealer way out in long island, hes like yah its 85 grand. i chuckled and walked away. 85 grand, seriously its not THAT GREAT. jeeezzz.
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Re: Hemi Challenger vs GT500 . . . .

^^^ exactly....specially when you can completely pull that 85k car down the highway with a 25k cobra...forget the 427 roush...he just looked silly. lol
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^^^ exactly....specially when you can completely pull that 85k car down the highway with a 25k cobra...forget the 427 roush...he just looked silly. lol
Yep my thought exactally!
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