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Old 10-10-2014, 08:58 PM   #1
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2014 V6 Beats 2015 EcoBoost in 1/4 Mile



What do we think gents? Stock for stock drag race shows the 2014 V6 beating the EcoBoost. Even the 2015 V6 kept up with the EcoBoost pretty good. I like the 2015 but I am not sure the performance has improved much over the 2014 in terms of straight line speed. I'm pleased with the dyno numbers, but could the extra weight be the 2015's Achilles' Heel?
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So ... the 2015 EB lost to the 2014 3.7, the 2015 GT lost to the 2012 GT. All of the magazines validate this as well. They also all validate that the current Camaro is a better handling car.

At 2:02, watch how the EB and 3.7 are basically door to door, then it's like the EB stops accelerating down the entire back half of the track. Simply pathetic, no way around it. Regardless, the EB once modded will likely be one hell of a nice car.

What in the F did Ford benchmark these new cars against? Certainly not the old ones, certainly not it's biggest competitor (Camaro).. Didn't they claim they were going for M3, 911 or something of that nature. I know I read that a Ford engineer said they didn't even test against the Camaro because their current car was better at everything. These are just massively under-performing compared to what they should have been, which seems to be something Ford is extremely good at doing.
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What in the F did Ford benchmark these new cars against? Certainly not the old ones, certainly not it's biggest competitor (Camaro).. Didn't they claim they were going for M3, 911 or something of that nature. I know I read that a Ford engineer said they didn't even test against the Camaro because their current car was better at everything.
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Ford Benchmarked The Porsche 911 And BMW M3 For The 2015 Mustang

I bet there's someone at Ford right now going "you know, I really hate to be that guy, but we reallllllllly should have benchmarked the 2015 to the 2014."

I don't know. Maybe this thing will be an utter surprise when it hits the streets in numbers. I'm sure some of you know I really like the 2015, and I really want to see it succeed, but this is straight up underwhelming.
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Good post, i wondered how they would pair up. Id go with the 2014 v6, better performance for the money.
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SixBanger, that's the article.

I just want to know how they could ever release something as the latest and greatest with so much hype, when it barely outperforms the previous car in handling (while still getting it's *** stomped by Camaro) which was a huge thing they kept repeating and then gets trounced at the drag strip.

Not only that, but the base model V6 is as fast or faster than the mid range turbo 4 and both are slower than the previous model V6. Same with the GT.

It boggles my mind as to how they could release these cars in their current form. The only thing I can think is that powertrain updates are in the very near future, much like in 2010 - 2011. If they don't, then GM will beat Ford down like they did all throughout the 90's.
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SixBanger, that's the article.

I just want to know how they could ever release something as the latest and greatest with so much hype, when it barely outperforms the previous car in handling (while still getting it's *** stomped by Camaro) which was a huge thing they kept repeating and then gets trounced at the drag strip.

Not only that, but the base model V6 is as fast or faster than the mid range turbo 4 and both are slower than the previous model V6. Same with the GT.

It boggles my mind as to how they could release these cars in their current form. The only thing I can think is that powertrain updates are in the very near future, much like in 2010 - 2011. If they don't, then GM will beat Ford down like they did all throughout the 90's.
Even with the powertrain updates. GM will still stomp Ford's ***. Ford needs more cubes. D*mnit Ford, make an NA 5.8L! Or put the Vodoo 5.2L as an option for the GT!
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SixBanger, that's the article.

I just want to know how they could ever release something as the latest and greatest with so much hype, when it barely outperforms the previous car in handling (while still getting it's *** stomped by Camaro) which was a huge thing they kept repeating and then gets trounced at the drag strip.

Not only that, but the base model V6 is as fast or faster than the mid range turbo 4 and both are slower than the previous model V6. Same with the GT.

It boggles my mind as to how they could release these cars in their current form. The only thing I can think is that powertrain updates are in the very near future, much like in 2010 - 2011. If they don't, then GM will beat Ford down like they did all throughout the 90's.

There are rumors that there will be big updates like the 2010 to 2011 change.


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by the time you upgrade to all the parts that guy is talking about your probably getting into gt price range, just doesn't make sense.
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There are rumors that there will be big updates like the 2010 to 2011 change.


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Ughhhhh. But that hype though...
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What do we think gents? Stock for stock drag race shows the 2014 V6 beating the EcoBoost. Even the 2015 V6 kept up with the EcoBoost pretty good. I like the 2015 but I am not sure the performance has improved much over the 2014 in terms of straight line speed. I'm pleased with the dyno numbers, but could the extra weight be the 2015's Achilles' Heel?

The manual ecoboost got a better time than both tho. Maybe after they tune it and the auto tranny it would do better, but yay for the manual. 13.89 @ 103 is a great time for stock IMO.


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SixBanger, that's the article.

I just want to know how they could ever release something as the latest and greatest with so much hype, when it barely outperforms the previous car in handling (while still getting it's *** stomped by Camaro) which was a huge thing they kept repeating and then gets trounced at the drag strip.

Not only that, but the base model V6 is as fast or faster than the mid range turbo 4 and both are slower than the previous model V6. Same with the GT.

It boggles my mind as to how they could release these cars in their current form. The only thing I can think is that powertrain updates are in the very near future, much like in 2010 - 2011. If they don't, then GM will beat Ford down like they did all throughout the 90's.

It's all about sales really. They will sell a ton just because it's new, because of the body style change, and because it's a turbo 4. Then, when Ford makes the power changes that rumor is mentioning, they'll sell a ton more. Ford just has an opportunity to sell more the way they are launching its release. Remember, it's all about making the most money for their product.


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As a guy who will not invalidate my warranty with mods this was a great video. It's hard to believe how quick a base model V6 mustang is. To think I paid thousands less than a Honda Civic is awesome especially since I wanted an Automatic this time.
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13.8 is a horrible time for something called a so called " performance car"

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13.8 is a horrible time for something called a so called " performance car"

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If it's better "performance", be it handling and/or acceleration than your typical vehicle on the road, then I think that moniker suits the car fine.

I am surprised the new auto performed so much slower than the manual car.


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A Miata will run 15 for a 1/4, and most people would consider that more of a performance car than a Mustang.

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A Miata will run 15 for a 1/4, and most people would consider that more of a performance car than a Mustang.

Luke 11:9-10 “So I say to you ...*search and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
Very interesting info makes me glad I went for the 3.7
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I was in Vegas for a few days and I had rented a car to check out local attractions. It was a Nissan Versa, much like your any other typical 4 banger 'economical' sedan. Good Lord I hated driving that thing, took forever to get to speed of traffic when merging into a hwy. Never before I had missed my mustang the way did during my trip.

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A Miata will run 15 for a 1/4, and most people would consider that more of a performance car than a Mustang.

Luke 11:9-10 “So I say to you ...*search and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
A Miata is 100% meant for road courses, not drag racing. That's apples to oranges.

All that being said, I'm glad I'm waiting until Ford sorts out their stuff with this new generation.

Or I may just do what I was originally planning and get a C7 vette as my next car haha.

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Or I may just do what I was originally planning and get a C7 vette as my next car haha.

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I've already made up my mind that the C7 will be my next car. 8 speed auto, Z51. Or heck, the Z06 with either transmission, and the Z07 package.
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Just reassures my decision in getting my 2014 GT while they were still around. Not a fan of the 2015 nor was I a fan of the 1999 change.


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This apples and oranges crap is driving me nuts. It is subjective to what one is comparing.

If one wants a new car under 25k, a Mustang, Miata, and Focus are all equal- IF they are under 25k.

My point in comment was that a performance car is subjective- and not dictated by a quarter mile time. Not the end all be all.

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I've already made up my mind that the C7 will be my next car. 8 speed auto, Z51. Or heck, the Z06 with either transmission, and the Z07 package.

You do know that you need to be at least 50 years old and be an active member in the AARP to buy a Vette right?


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Nah. It's only 80k......lol well for the z06. You can nab a base for about 50.

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Nah. It's only 80k......lol well for the z06. You can nab a base for about 50.

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Lol, no I meant 50 years old


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I know, I was making a joke about the thought that only old folks with disposable income can buy em.

That said, I have seen a few. My stepfather is pretty old and has a C7 Z51. Right before he had major back surgery. It's been sitting in his garage for the past 4 months. Such a shame.

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maybe I'm missing something but, the stick ECO was the fastest thing of the 3 cars in comparison here....

I am still laughing that Ford Racing took a custom tune, pretty much full exhaust including LT headers, CAI and drivetrain upgrades and emptied the interior to get a 11.77 at 116 out of the '15 GT.

Shyt, I did close to that with a mild canned tune, a tire and mild traction aids on my '12. If I went with those intake and exhaust mods and tuned for it, I'd be trapping closer to 120, even full weight Premium GT.

Plus I hear the new IRS is w wheehopping beast at the track on the factory Pirellis. C'mon man, I can fix wheelhop for between 100-200 bucks on a stick axle. There is no excuse for this with a brand new suspension and chassis.
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[QUOTE=5LHO;2106400]maybe I'm missing something but, the stick ECO was the fastest thing of the 3 cars in comparison here....



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Lol, I mentioned that too but nobody replied to it.




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