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Old 10-23-2014, 12:03 AM   #36
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yes, you will need boost or nitrous, and then one with exhaust, cam will still get you.

You at 450-500 at the tires will still get beat by a full bolton cammed ls1 Fbody

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Not true. I make 485 rwhp and heads cam full bolt on ls1 fbodys trans ams and camaros alike have seen my taillights when they are on the motor. Note: with a 150 shot I have no chance.
I have ran many in my day to know that a blown 3v should put in work on h/c/I fbodys
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Not true. I make 485 rwhp and heads cam full bolt on ls1 fbodys trans ams and camaros alike have seen my taillights when they are on the motor. Note: with a 150 shot I have no chance.
I have ran many in my day to know that a blown 3v should put in work on h/c/I fbodys
None that I have seen. I sold my blown 3v for a reason.

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What was your setup?
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Full exhaust, m90, 100 shot, on my 3v.
3v's are turds.

I still destroy blown 3v's all the time on motor alone on my coyote. Don't even have to turn the valve on the bottle.

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Only way the 3v's are fun, is with alot of boost. They just do not perform well at 500 and below imo.
It was a fun red light to red light car though

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If you have a 3v making 480 and can show full bolton, heads, cam fbodys your taillights I give you props.

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Old 10-23-2014, 12:30 AM   #42
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Full exhaust, m90, 100 shot, on my 3v.
3v's are turds.

I still destroy blown 3v's all the time on motor alone on my coyote. Don't even have to turn the valve on the bottle.

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if you are stating you had all those mods to your 3v and you still lost then something was really wrong either with the car/driving/tune or the ta's pulled a slick one on you and sprayed also. I have ran dozens of 5.0's over the past few years I have been supercharged as well. same thing if they spray I cant hang but bolt ons I'll be winning by a few cars unless it's one of the couple coyotes that are cams/full bolt on e85 out here which have worked me over before. I'm an open honest individual and if their was no type of issue (traction, driver mod, tune, mechanical) I don't see that as possible
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Im sure there are plenty of youtube and racing vids out there that will show blown 3v vs cammed ta's as well. Id advise a scroll through a few of those for amusement. Ta's are fast ill admit that. Those ls motors can handle some punishment
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There was no isssue.
Seen plenty of cars loose to NA fbodys.
Like I said I give you props if you were pulling on them like you said.

And my coyote is built motor, 11.5 compression, slight head work, full bolton e85 car. Built and tuned by lethal,

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My 3v made 430 with the M90, never went on the dyno with the bottle. Tuned by vmp,

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Your coyote should be pretty fast. You shouldn't be losing to n/a fbodys. As for your 3v off the bottle, I would think you should be putting up a good fight. I know lethal performance in san has a dynojet and my car was tuned by jon lund and made 485 rwhp on a mustang dyno on a hot summer day. Mustang dynomometers are loaded dynos and read lower #'s. You on the blower should have been making around the same hp as the ta's .
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Never said I lost to NA fbodys in my coyote,

Lethal has a new dyno now also, idk if you been there since there new shop, but it's a loaded dynojet. Which they now use a correction factor which takes in account for weather etc.

My coyote made over 700 on the bottle, which has since been taken off and going twin turbo now.

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Your coyote should be pretty fast. You shouldn't be losing to n/a fbodys. As for your 3v off the bottle, I would think you should be putting up a good fight. I know lethal performance in san has a dynojet and my car was tuned by jon lund and made 485 rwhp on a mustang dyno on a hot summer day. Mustang dynomometers are loaded dynos and read lower #'s. You on the blower should have been making around the same hp as the ta's .

You are aware that head/ cam f bodies can easily make 600 RWHP for next to nothing.

And in general one thing to remember is saying H/C LS1 is extremely generic. Depending on the size of the cam and type of heads you can be looking at a range from 400-600 HP for a street car without any issues.


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Never said I lost to NA fbodys in my coyote,

Lethal has a new dyno now also, idk if you been there since there new shop, but it's a loaded dynojet. Which they now use a correction factor which takes in account for weather etc.

My coyote made over 700 on the bottle, which has since been taken off and going twin turbo now.

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Yea I have been to the new location. Sounds like you and I are going for similar setups. Wish you the best with twins man. e85 twins so there is no reason you shouldn't see 1000 in their dyno
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Yea I have been to the new location. Sounds like you and I are going for similar setups. Wish you the best with twins man. e85 twins so there is no reason you shouldn't see 1000 in their dyno
Not looking for 1,000 this time. We decided on 750-800 for right now.

You have a 3v still? Or do you happen to have a red gt500?

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You are aware that head/ cam f bodies can easily make 600 RWHP for next to nothing.

And in general one thing to remember is saying H/C LS1 is extremely generic. Depending on the size of the cam and type of heads you can be looking at a range from 400-600 HP for a street car without any issues.


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I have seen fbodies with ls2/ls3/ls7 swaps make that kind of power but have never and I repeat never have seen a stock bottom end ls1 hci f body make 600 rwhp without the aid of nitrous
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Not looking for 1,000 this time. We decided on 750-800 for right now.

You have a 3v still? Or do you happen to have a red gt500?

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Lol I believe I know of the red gt500 you speak of but I have a black 3v. Im a Max V car. I'll have a 323 cid being fed by twin 6765's
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There is a particular silver ws6 out in Austin, thay I can't beat on motor. It's not a ls1 though.
You may know who I'm talking about. Manny ' s car. He swears up and down it was lil red wagons old motor in it

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Your coyote should be pretty fast. You shouldn't be losing to n/a fbodys. As for your 3v off the bottle, I would think you should be putting up a good fight. I know lethal performance in san has a dynojet and my car was tuned by jon lund and made 485 rwhp on a mustang dyno on a hot summer day. Mustang dynomometers are loaded dynos and read lower #'s. You on the blower should have been making around the same hp as the ta's .

You are aware that head/ cam f bodies can easily make 600 RWHP for next to nothing.

And in general one thing to remember is saying H/C LS1 is extremely generic. Depending on the size of the cam and type of heads you can be looking at a range from 400-600 HP for a street car without any issues.


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Lol I believe I know of the red gt500 you speak of but I have a black 3v. Im a Max V car. I'll have a 323 cid being fed by twin 6765's
Lol ok I was just checking to see if you were Mr sonic lol.

Did yours have a kenne bell on it at all? And make over 900 on lethals old dyno? Bc I believe he is twins now also. ( I know you said 480 but wasn't sure if that was a old set up )

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There is a particular silver ws6 out in Austin, thay I can't beat on motor. It's not a ls1 though.
You may know who I'm talking about. Manny ' s car. He swears up and down it was lil red wagons old motor in it

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Manny fenix lol yea I know him lol. Yea his car is not an ls1 car lol. He's fast that's all im able to say at the moment
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Manny fenix lol yea I know him lol. Yea his car is not an ls1 car lol. He's fast that's all im able to say at the moment
Speaking just like him now hahahah.
Use to talk to him alot b4 I stopped getting on FB.
Dude is hilarious when he starts trolling people.

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Lol ok I was just checking to see if you were Mr sonic lol.

Did yours have a kenne bell on it at all? And make over 900 on lethals old dyno? Bc I believe he is twins now also. ( I know you said 480 but wasn't sure if that was a old set up )

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No thats not me either. Im not completely sure of who has the kb car. I know tobe has a big *** kb but I'm sure his shelby is making well over 900
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No thats not me either. Im not completely sure of who has the kb car. I know tobe has a big *** kb but I'm sure his shelby is making well over 900
Yes i think it's up at lethal right now, at least it was last time I was there.
Danny and shaun have been trying to get him to go twins on his for a while now.




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Yes i think it's up at lethal right now, at least it was last time I was there.
Danny and shaun have been trying to get him to go twins on his for a while now.




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Bad ***. I believe he already has a 4.2 kb but yea I would love to see what that monster would do with twins. Yea im sure he is mr sonic considering his profession lol
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Bad ***. I believe he already has a 4.2 kb but yea I would love to see what that monster would do with twins. Yea im sure he is mr sonic considering his profession lol
Lol, yes that's why I put Mr sonic instead of his real name. I figured you would catch on to it

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Lol, yes that's why I put Mr sonic instead of his real name. I figured you would catch on to it

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Oh yea lol. Good idea. Do you go to any car meets around town?
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Oh yea lol. Good idea. Do you go to any car meets around town?
I did when I first moved out here a little over a year ago. But work got in the way, have not been able to lately.

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I did when I first moved out here a little over a year ago. But work got in the way, have not been able to lately.

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Oh ok koo. When do you project you will be running twins? Imma do a build thread on one of these forums in a few months if all goes smooth with mmr
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Do you know Andrew has a coyote also?

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Silver coyote looks like a v6 but pretty fast?
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Oh ok koo. When do you project you will be running twins? Imma do a build thread on one of these forums in a few months if all goes smooth with mmr
Im waiting till after Christmas, then we will start hopefully be done February.
all that's left is the twins though. Wife has be generous with the money pit so far lol.

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Im waiting till after Christmas, then we will start hopefully be done February.
all that's left is the twins though. Wife has be generous with the money pit so far lol.

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then you will probably beat me to the punch lol. The exciting part about going twins is you have the ultimate hp setup and all that needs to be done is turn up the boost
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