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Old 07-25-2015, 02:16 PM   #1
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My 2013 has issues! Ford buyback?

Today I took my 13 V6 performance pack into the dealer today to check on a creaking noise coming from the front end. Turns oit its my lower control arm. The car has now had this issue now for the 3rd time and the car is under 36,000 miles. Also its had a water pump fail as well as a leak at the rear diff. Would this fall into the lemon law? The dealer said they will have to contact ford on monday. It would suck to have them buyback the car as it has been bought back before with the previous owner. I have done some upgrading in the car. (Cold air intake, stripes, tinted windows) now they would probably only give me what I paid. Does anyone know about this?
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Far from a lemon. Just part of owning a car. Nothing major so wouldn't make a big deal about it. Fix it and move on

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About 20 seconds of googling got me a solid answer to your question...
NO.
You stated you're the second owner. Besides...what you describe is normal pain in the butt crap that can and sometimes does break, even a few times.
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Today I took my 13 V6 performance pack into the dealer today to check on a creaking noise coming from the front end. Turns oit its my lower control arm. The car has now had this issue now for the 3rd time and the car is under 36,000 miles. Also its had a water pump fail as well as a leak at the rear diff. Would this fall into the lemon law? The dealer said they will have to contact ford on monday. It would suck to have them buyback the car as it has been bought back before with the previous owner. I have done some upgrading in the car. (Cold air intake, stripes, tinted windows) now they would probably only give me what I paid. Does anyone know about this?
Are you saying that this car has been previously bought back by Ford, and then they re-sold the car to you?
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Are you saying that this car has been previously bought back by Ford, and then they re-sold the car to you?
Bought back from the previous owner then sold to me a couple months later
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Did you know that when you purchased the car?
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Did you know that when you purchased the car?
Yes I ended up getting an excellent deal on it. About 6k less than what others were going for at the time
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This is the mentality of some today.... Like this story. Make poor decisions or have minor life issues....blame everyone else.
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Yes I ended up getting an excellent deal on it. About 6k less than what others were going for at the time

Sounds like you got 6k for your troubles already


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Yes I ended up getting an excellent deal on it. About 6k less than what others were going for at the time
Well this is interesting!
It sounds like you Do NOT want them to buy back the car. I can see why. You got a really good deal! And, as stated above, all of the issues that you mentioned are relatively minor.

When you bought the car, was there ever any mention that Ford may not honor their warranty since the car was a buy back?

I would think that, since you are the owner of the vehicle, that you would have to be the one to initiate them buying back the car under the lemon law. The factory will typically do everything in their power to NOT buy back cars... Once they leave the assembly line, they don't ever want to see the car again!

This is an unusual circumstance though. At least one that I'm unfamiliar with!
The only reason that I could imagine Ford wanting to own that car for a THIRD time is, if they thought that the warranty repairs on the car were going to cost more than buying the car back. And if that is what they thought during the first buy back, from the original owner, the car would not have been re-sold, They would have crushed it.
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I thought I'd I company bought a car back due to lemon law they could not resell it.


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For a $6K discount I would let them fix it and live with it.
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What was the reason for the original buyback, did you inquire? As stated above, I would think that Ford would rather fix the car, (assuming that when you bought the car, there were no restrictions on the warranty due to the original buyback) before buying the car back again. Having never bought a car that had been previously bought back by a manufacture, I'm not sure if the warranty that was in affect when the car was new would have some restrictions.
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Didn't think a car could resell a lemon.

You could always park it under a bridge, douse in kerosene, and collect insurance money...NO, I'M NOT SERIOUSLY SUGGESTING THIS!
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...The factory will typically do everything in their power to NOT buy back cars... Once they leave the assembly line, they don't ever want to see the car again!

ha ha! yeah, right!!
the knowingly sell defective vehicles so you have to pay to repair them!!
if they sold you a reliable car, they would sell less newer vehicles, less on service & parts... & make less money!!
right?
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In the state of Florida, a new vehicle falls under a lemon law act if the vehicle has been back to a dealer 3 times to fix the same fault, and it was not repaired. In the case of the OP, he bought the car used, and therefore assumed to be as is, and no lemon law applies in this case.

You bought it as is and knew about this, and have no recourse with the dealer or Ford.
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Its under warranty, have them fix it or take it to a different dealer if you think its the dealer being an idiot about fixing it. Rear diff leaking, that's a seal and maybe a cover. Water pump, easy, control arm... might have been a bad batch of them or its a ****ty dealer that is just saying they fixed it to shut you up.

Might want to take it to a different dealer TBTH...

Also might want to see if you can get them to upgrade you to Boss control arms. They are a Ford part and they fit all 11-14 cars with minor modifications.
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good stuff Scotty (yet again)

OP, it is a hassle we know but keep at it be firm polite at the dealer mayhap consider another dealer if this one can't help you
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ha ha! yeah, right!!
the knowingly sell defective vehicles so you have to pay to repair them!!
if they sold you a reliable car, they would sell less newer vehicles, less on service & parts... & make less money!!
right?
Lol.
Yeah, that's probably part of the game plan.

Henry Ford never intended to build the best car. He wanted to build a car that practically everyone could afford. The reason that he left Cadillac (A company that he co-founded) was they were heading in the direction of building cars that only the wealthy could afford. Ford wanted to build cars and sell them to EVERYONE! And that he did! More than 15 million Model T's.
What really amazes me is how all of the auto manufacturers are able to assemble literally thousands of parts, supplied by hundreds of vendors, into vehicles that, for the most part, are very reliable transportation.
They aren't perfect, because most of us can't afford "perfection". They are pretty good, in my opinion, and I'd rather be riding around in a "pretty good" automobile than riding on top of an "excellent" horse...
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i know that not every vehicle & part is gonna be perfect 100%, but taking it back 3x for the same thing is ridiculous
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Today I took my 13 V6 performance pack into the dealer today to check on a creaking noise coming from the front end. Turns oit its my lower control arm. The car has now had this issue now for the 3rd time and the car is under 36,000 miles. Also its had a water pump fail as well as a leak at the rear diff. Would this fall into the lemon law? The dealer said they will have to contact ford on monday. It would suck to have them buyback the car as it has been bought back before with the previous owner. I have done some upgrading in the car. (Cold air intake, stripes, tinted windows) now they would probably only give me what I paid. Does anyone know about this?
The concern, as I understand it is, can Ford refuse further warranty coverage and force you to sell back the vehicle? In other words you want to keep the car but also want them to fix it under the warranty. I believe rather than a lot of speculation your best move is to contact your local authority on consumer laws, as soon as possible. Best to know your rights before the dealer gets back to you on it.
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I wonder what happened with this? Presumably the car has some kind of warranty since it was reply by Ford to the OP...
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It has a warranty, it is new enough. The problems he mentioned are not super serious and should be easily fixed. If the control arm is a 3x thing, time for BMR to the rescue, these cars need new LCAs and especially relocation brackets BADLY anyway. Leaky diff is a seal and water pump... **** happens, its under warranty.


I'm assuming since there haven't been any updates he took it in and its finally fixed.


Also when a car has a control arm go bad 3 times... that is more than likely some hack mechanic just tightening the one on there up or something and then calling it good than actually replacing it with a good unit. Or they had a bad batch come in. Either way the stock ones are **** like I said even if it isn't making any noise.
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It has a warranty, it is new enough. The problems he mentioned are not super serious and should be easily fixed. If the control arm is a 3x thing, time for BMR to the rescue, these cars need new LCAs and especially relocation brackets BADLY anyway. Leaky diff is a seal and water pump... **** happens, its under warranty.


I'm assuming since there haven't been any updates he took it in and its finally fixed.


Also when a car has a control arm go bad 3 times... that is more than likely some hack mechanic just tightening the one on there up or something and then calling it good than actually replacing it with a good unit. Or they had a bad batch come in. Either way the stock ones are **** like I said even if it isn't making any noise.
It's the front LCA's, it's a known issue with the 11-14 cars and them making noise. Ford has gone through 3 or 4 revisions trying to fix the issue but its hit or miss as to if the replacements are any better.
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Ah, front control arm? Just mod a Boss control arm to get in there then. Or just do the BMR K member and control arms up front. Drops 40lbs off the nose of the car which is always good and even better for the already light Cyclone.
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Race has been asking about exhaust systems so I'm gonna guess it's good (or he's trying to drown out squeek)
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