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Old 08-08-2015, 12:51 PM   #1
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Shelby American should be ashamed of their apparel.

My wife and I recently went to Las Vegas with the expressed purpose of doing the 'touristy' thing. We wanted to go the the Pawn Stars shop, Counting Cars shop, Shelby American, and the Ferrari showroom in the Wynn --- all of which we did.
When we travel, I buy t-shirts as memorabilia and when I wear them over the next few years, I am fondly recalling everywhere we went.
The cars in the showroom and the museum at Shelby were filthy, with the Mustangs in the showroom covered in kid's and adult's nose and handprints and dust. The museum cars were dusty, but otherwise moderately presentable.
The final straw was when we went to the attached shop to buy my t-shirt, which I'd been looking forward to for weeks.........disappointment does not begin to describe what we found. Everything in the shop was the poorest quality apparel I've ever seen offered for sale. Checking the tags revealed why --- Bangladesh, Honderas, and other third world countries made them. Folks, these t shirts were the most expensive we saw in town (other than the $48 Ferrari t shirts at the Wynn, of course), but Shelby stuff was hard to the touch, the collars would not even stretch and then go back into shape, the material was so thin, you could practically see through it, and the silk screening on all of them was already cracked and fading. This included the t shirts, the polo shirts, the sweatshirts and jackets........they were all just crap. I left with an empty feeling regarding the rest of the quality of Shelby AMERICAN cars and their parts they use, and I thought that Carrol might be rolling over in his grave......it was beyond sad and upsetting. They could not have paid more than $1.00 for those t-shirts........how about the proudest AMERICAN muscle car modifier having "HANES, proudly made in the USA" on the inside of their collars?
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Well the Shelby museum is free. So can't see how you can complain.
My shirts were fine from there. I prefer a thin shirt.

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Well the Shelby museum is free. So can't see how you can complain.
My shirts were fine from there. I prefer a thin shirt.
What year were you there? Perhaps things have changed since Carrol shuffled off this mortal coil.
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I'm happy you're happy..............
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I'm happy you're happy..............
I honestly believe you just like to complain.
What sets your standards so high?
The museum is free so you do not pay a $ unless you feel like it.
They could charge you just like ferrari does just to walk around

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I've never been to the museum, I actually never been to Vegas. I'm a business owner so I can see why they have material from out of the country and charge premium price. Its about making money period. If it's free admission then they have to find other means of making money with max profit and if it's China or Bangladesh that produced the raw material then so be it. They could care less as long as it's cheap as dirt and they make max profit. Sound like the the person or persons in charge of the museum aren't all about the history of Shelby like u and me. They are just a bunch of suits with dollars signs in they're sights. If it was someone that has pride of the heritage than they would go through great lengths to keep the cars clean and even buy the cotton here in the states to make the shirts just to keep it all American.
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I honestly believe you just like to complain.
What sets your standards so high?
The museum is free so you do not pay a $ unless you feel like it.
They could charge you just like ferrari does just to walk around
All true..........but when I pay big bucks for a piece of traveling history, I like it to be of higher quality than they offered.
You know who has nice quality t-shirts? The Counting Cars shop. Made overseas as well, but very high quality of the material and the screening. It's been worn and washed dozens of times (I am wearing it right now, hence the genesis of this post, I guess), and still looks and fits like the day I pulled it off the shelf. Let us know how yours looks after a year of weekly wear.
As for complaining....take my comments for what they are worth --- but when a "suit" makes decisions to put stuff in their shop for sale --- is he the same one making the decision on whose brake pads to use? Hope not.
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All true..........but when I pay big bucks for a piece of traveling history, I like it to be of higher quality than they offered.
You know who has nice quality t-shirts? The Counting Cars shop. Made overseas as well, but very high quality of the material and the screening.
As for complaining....take my comments for what they are worth --- but when a "suit" makes decisions to put stuff in their shop for sale --- is he the same one making the decision on whose brake pads to use? Hope not.
Bro the suits most likely can't even change a tire!! Lmao.
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Enjoyed the museum. My shirts were flimsy. Overall a win and would recommend you go. Don't forget, it's a functioning shop/factory. That's the main purpose of its existence. If they sold all the classic cars, they wouldn't have to sell you a crappy t shirt. Click image for larger version

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Cars look clean to me!!
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The only one I saw that had fingertips on it when I went, was the 1,000 in the back b4 you walk out in the shop itself.

I did about fall asleep in the long tour about the cars though.

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To clarify a bit.........I was happy that the museum was free, and just seeing the very first AC Cobra in original (and beat up) condition was worth the trip there. This is the Cobra that Shelby painted different colors four or five times when showing it to investors, trying to convince them there was more than one car! I heard he turned down something like $23 million for it shortly before he passed away......
I was actually there last year, so maybe they have gotten more serious about the condition of their vehicles since then. If you recent visitors say they were clean (showroom too?) then they for sure have done so since our visit.
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**** yeah i didn't know it was free. I'm going to vegas next week and I'll stop by here if i can convince wifey

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**** yeah i didn't know it was free. I'm going to vegas next week and I'll stop by here if i can convince wifey
For sure worth seeing, and it is now very close to downtown. They used to be miles from town out by the racetrack, but now, they are right by the main highway just minutes from the main drag. If she would like to gamble on the strip for an hour or two, you could get there, see the main part and get back easily.
I did not take the factory tour, but you can also see most of that through the windows of the showroom and museum. Enjoy!
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Vegas, as a whole, is just a mere shell of it's former self. 20 years ago, they didn't have all of the competition from from other gambling venues like they have now. It used to be that Las Vegas and Atlantic city were the main destination gambling cities in the US. Nowadays, many people don't even need to leave the county that they live in to find a casino. There are SIX within 45 minutes from where I live.
It's not surprising that they are trying to maximize the profits on every tourist that they get.
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I can see how the OP felt this way regardless of a free admission, so many people regard Shelby so highly and dream that they may someday own one. Many since they were a boy with a poster in their bedroom. There's a core feeling that they should be cared for, kept and cherished as an American icon of pride and quality. If I saw a rare Shelby in the museum and it even had minor smudges, dust or whatever, I would probably think that if it was in my garage it would not.
Have you ever revisited a prior house you lived in and felt sick when you discovered that what you took pride in was left unkept and not taken care of? It's that sort of feeling.
I understand why even great American companies use foreign sources for products and unfortunately a great deal of them are cheaper because of labor cost and material quality differences.
There is also probably a need and extreme desire in Shelby enthusiasts that America and American made products should be a top priority even if it means less profit for the company as a whole. The profit is in the patriotism and knowledge that a fellow American regardless of race or ethnicity has a good job, producing a product that honors and also advertises an American made product revered worldwide.
Shelby may not claim to represent Americas pride and quality but through reputation and respect, that's what they have become owners of.
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It's a car with a name on it simple as that.

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Vegas, as a whole, is just a mere shell of it's former self. 20 years ago, they didn't have all of the competition from from other gambling venues like they have now. It used to be that Las Vegas and Atlantic city were the main destination gambling cities in the US. Nowadays, many people don't even need to leave the county that they live in to find a casino. There are SIX within 45 minutes from where I live.
It's not surprising that they are trying to maximize the profits on every tourist that they get.
It's my second time going but i didn't do much the first time now that i saved a little more money i hope i get to do more than chill at circus circus and walk the strip. I'll be at the stratosphere this time

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It's a car with a name on it simple as that.

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And the bald eagle is just a bird with feathers and stuff.
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And the bald eagle is just a bird with feathers and stuff.
Nice!...........and Carrol Shelby was just a car salesman.

I don't know why some have a hard time extrapolating the quality of SOMETHING someone sells to EVERYTHING someone sells.....it is not a difficult leap, and was the only point I was trying to make.
"Shelby" is a proud, very proud "made in 'Merica" name and I was very much looking forward to wearing their name........nope, not with the quality of their stuff in the store. I was PO'd when I left the store --- but more embarrassed for Carrol, I admit it.
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I've been to Vegas many times. Never been to the Shelby museum. I'm going to check it out next month. Maybe i will carry a feather duster with me. Lol!

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Carroll Shelby was just a man with a name.

Ok. That didn't make any sense, but he he was no better, or worse, than anyone else.
In my opinion, the AC Cobra is the only production car that he ever "built". And I use the term "built" loosely... He bought the body and chassis from AC, and the drivetrain came from Ford. He was largely responsible for the 289 Cobras, but the 427 Cobras were a different story. He was able to shoehorn the big side-oiler into the chassis, but the car was a mess as it was delivered to Ford's engineering dept. It handled like crap! It was Ford that worked all of the kinks out of the car.
Shelby did however add the fender flares to the 427 AC Cobra body. It is those fender flares that he has been using as the basis for filing lawsuits against every Cobra "Kit Car" manufacturer for 40+ years.
He was a businessman... With character!
Not everything that had his name on it was a "gem". Remember the Dodge/Shelby's of the eighties?

Just like everyone else, he went through life trying to make a buck and keep his family fed.
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well good thing Shelby America isn't known for making clothing then...
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OK......maybe worse for me, was that the General Sales Manager drives a Corvette!!!!
When I asked him why, he said that the Shelby Mustangs are lucky to get 16/17 mpg, and he commutes 62 miles one way, so he appreciated the 'Vettes 31/32 on the highway!
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Ok, how about we flash mob the place with feather dusters and we will wear matching jumpsuits with American flag patches and show those tards how to display a Shelby with some pep in their step. And pride in their ride. Common fellas it will be swell.
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Shelby American should be ashamed of their apparel.

Hm, drives a Corvette and sells modified Fords. That's interesting, by the mileage you stated it must be a C5. Nice car.


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Ok, how about we flash mob the place with feather dusters and we will wear matching jumpsuits with American flag patches and show those tards how to display a Shelby with some pep in their step. And pride in their ride. Common fellas it will be swell.
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This black one caught my attention. I had to take a picture of the fingerprints and yes the cars are dusty af and lots of swirls

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This black one caught my attention. I had to take a picture of the fingerprints and yes the cars are dusty AF and lots of swirls.
Thank you! Certainly not the way I would present the cars if I ran the place.....I would pay a guy with detail spray and a microfiber towel to do those cars 2 or 3 times a day. Their attitude is -- "we are glad the cars have handprints on them, it shows people are looking at them."
For me, if you are asking $80,000 for a MUSTANG, it better look PERFECT before I even think about reaching for my wallet.
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I liked the tour and the fact it was free. Like RJ13GT I'll take a feather duster or a microfiber cloth

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Interesting views. I side with those who place the Shelby as a sports car icon, and not just "a car with a name".
It's a large part of automotive history, and deserves the recognition that it and its designers/developers have put forth. I suppose the apparel and other sales media can be improved, but this should not be a valid reason to disrespect the Shelby name and what it stands for as far as it's position in the automotive sports car history.

I'd pass as well on a shirt that had such poor quality standards, unless it was a freebie. But that's just me. However, I'd still wish for the day that I could own a Shelby. It's not in my immediate future though. That's unfortunate for me. maybe one day.
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Why not blame the public for touching the cars.......

side note: in Vegas go to (in order) the Atomic museum, the Neon Museum and the Car Museum at the Imperial palace.

..the Neon Museum requires advance tix (or it did 2 yrs ago)
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