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Old 03-30-2011, 10:03 PM   #1
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ranger 4.0 swapped into a 05+ 4.0 mustang?

hey all, im looking to find out what i would need to do to get my 4.0 out of my 2003 ford ranger and into a 05+ v6 4.0 mustang? (its a build 4.0 with a charger, just want to get it into a sports car..something that will utilize it more)

i hear that the engine is basically the same...but what would that involve..

would PATS be affected? can i plug that 05 mustang ECU into the engine harness from my 03 engine?
OR could i just connect all the sensors from the 05 mustang harness onto my 03 v6 and it would work?

AND in the opposite direction, i would want to put the 05 stock v6 into the ranger...if that would work



umm i also found out that the t5od from the mustang was like 10 spline? i think the ranger is like 23? so would i just need a different clutch? or would the throw out bearing also need to be changed???

are the blocks the same so that the t5od from the mustang would bolt right up?


any imput is welcome!!!
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Is it a stock motor with a supercharger on it? If that's the case I'd just swap all that stuff on to the mustang.
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Re: ranger 4.0 swapped into a 05+ 4.0 mustang?

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Is it a stock motor with a supercharger on it? If that's the case I'd just swap all that stuff on to the mustang.
that was my thought too. Even if you had to buy a few parts to convert it to the mustang it would be easier than an engine swap.
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Its a built 4.0. Don't ask my why I did that... way to much money for not enough benefit. But its got low comp pistons. Ported heads. Yadda yadda. That's why I would love it to all be in a mustang. Or a lightweight 2wd ranger. But that's gonna be harder than a mustang I think
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Re: ranger 4.0 swapped into a 05+ 4.0 mustang?

ive often wondered how close the two motors are
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Yaa that is what I want to know. I hear that the mustang is tuned for like 10 more horse or something. But would love someone to comform it all.

And I don't know how PATS is going to come into play in this
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Re: ranger 4.0 swapped into a 05+ 4.0 mustang?

would this get more hits in the straight V6 section? instead of the 05-10 section? if someone could move it that would be great
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Re: ranger 4.0 swapped into a 05+ 4.0 mustang?

You wont gain much putting it into a mustang. They weigh about the same. One thing that might help is ditching the ranger 5spd for a t-5 out of a mustang. If you really want to put it into a mustang try and find a foxbody coupe. As far as I know the major difference between the two is in 2004 ford changed a lot of the wiring around. It's should just drop into a 05+ v6 model, but my question is why would you take it out of the ranger and put it in a mustang? You would have to put another 4.0 into the ranger. Personally keep it in the ranger and find a cheap v8 stang for your real performance.

I currently have a stock 04 4.0 ranger and I also have a 98 ranger that in the next year should see a 5.0 dropped into it. Which that might be a more effective option for your ranger. Find a 5.0 out of an explorer and swap it in and sell the 4.0. There are plenty of ranger guys on forums that would love a beefed up 4.0 in there 4x4's. I know I wouldn't mind a few more pony's in mine.
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The 4x4 ranger weighs about 500 pounds more than the mustangs. I would put the 4.0 from the mustang into the ranger. I didn't want a 5.0 because I didn't have the fab skills to put it in so I built the 4.0 and put a lighting m112 on it. So it makes 281/312 at the wheels in my ranger. 4x4. 31 inch tall tires. 4.10 gears. Soo putting it into a light weight car with 2wd would get up and goo.

That's why its not a stock 4.0 that is in the ranger lol. Don't ask why I built the 4.0. But I did. And I feel it would definately have a better time in a mustang. That's why I was thinking about swapping it
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The 4x4 ranger weighs about 500 pounds more than the mustangs. I would put the 4.0 from the mustang into the ranger. I didn't want a 5.0 because I didn't have the fab skills to put it in so I built the 4.0 and put a lighting m112 on it. So it makes 281/312 at the wheels in my ranger. 4x4. 31 inch tall tires. 4.10 gears. Soo putting it into a light weight car with 2wd would get up and goo.

That's why its not a stock 4.0 that is in the ranger lol. Don't ask why I built the 4.0. But I did. And I feel it would definately have a better time in a mustang. That's why I was thinking about swapping it
You didn't specify that it was a 4x4 lol. That changes it a bit. Putting an explorer 5.0 into a ranger isn't all that hard. You can find donors for under 2k and all you do is swap everything over. For a 4x4 just find one that's 4x4 or awd and its a simple as moving the engine/trans over with any wiring needed. No major fab needed. Personally I say leave it as is and just buy a fox body. Swapping it into a mustang really wouldn't be worth it. You would have to buy a 05+ v6 which is anywhere from 10-15k and then you will have two vehicles down for a bit. You could take 5k and go find a really nice fox body and dump a few grand into it and you will have something faster and handle better for less money and still have a badass 4x4.
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Mhmmm making a decent argument this all would not happen right now the funds are not right right now just seeing if it was possiblee
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Mhmmm making a decent argument this all would not happen right now the funds are not right right now just seeing if it was possiblee
Your thought process isn't bad. Just on the expensive side lol. Got any pictures of the engine setup? How hard was it to make the lightning SC fit on the 4.0?
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Yaaa that's kinda why I saw this going down in a few years when the price of a 05 stang wwas a bit cheaper. And I'm in college. So maybe when I got out or somethingg. Cause when the ranger stops running I want to keep the engine because I put so much into it ...

Yaaa I can post a picture or two when I get back to my room

It was a challenge I would say. My friend was huge. He welded together the intake manifold that is the oddest shape thing you have ever seen because of the fuel rails and thermostat and other stuff. Had to put a hood scoop on it to use the lightning intake. But that's the price for power I guess.

The pulley isn't exactly lined up but its really close. Ahahh. But it wasn't horrible
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Re: ranger 4.0 swapped into a 05+ 4.0 mustang?

Yeah I'd definitely like to see. I know there is the SC off the old tbird super coupes that work well with the 4.0. That is the only other thing I could really see me doing to my 4x4 just to get a bit more power out of it. v8 swaps are pretty much not an option on the 04+ rangers due to ford changing a lot of the wiring up.
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Re: ranger 4.0 swapped into a 05+ 4.0 mustang?






its alot cleaner than that under the hood now. the guy that makes the kit for the m90 off the tbird was supposed to be making one for the m112...mine was just from my friend, he thought it would be awesome to put the m112 on the 4.0 so i told him if he could make the intake manifold, we could put it on the built engine.
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its alot cleaner than that under the hood now. the guy that makes the kit for the m90 off the tbird was supposed to be making one for the m112...mine was just from my friend, he thought it would be awesome to put the m112 on the 4.0 so i told him if he could make the intake manifold, we could put it on the built engine.
I definitely see why you did the hood that way. Looks good though and its functional so that's all that matters really. If you dont mind what all do you have done to the motor besides the SC and roughly how much money wise?
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Re: ranger 4.0 swapped into a 05+ 4.0 mustang?

way to much money...in parts and labor..it was just a money pit...

partially because i had to bore/hone the block twice because i did it backwards..honed it for the pistons i didnt have, and then bought the pistons..so that was like 350$ that i didnt have to spend...

boring/honing....700 (done twice, thats why)
SSM 9.4:1 pistons....750
pocket ported heads....350
42 lbs injectors....260 (ebay way back when)
lightning m112/plenum....550 (ebay way back when)
homemade intake plenum (uhhh 50 bucks in metal..15 hours in labor? trial and error..)
jba headers...400 i think?
lightning MAF...200 i think?
3 angle? valve job...no idea, 200?
centerforce clutch....400.....and i bought a spec for 500$ at first and it SUCKED
gasket kit...250
new chain guides/cam sprockets...400

and then beyond that there are a bunch of other things...SCT tuner, walbro 255 fuel pump (might be 190, not sure), 4 autometer gauges, smaller pulley....ect

when i say way to much money, i mean way to much money...something probably around 10,000$ for the truck as it sits right now...kind of why i want to put it in a mustang, because it will be more able to use the engine..(i tow a trailer with a lawn mower now) but i could do that with the 4.0...

would i do it again? no...if i had to though, i could do it for alot cheaper now that i know what it takes..
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