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Old 05-27-2012, 05:09 PM   #1
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So ive been looking around for some mods to do for my car that will give me an increase in power that i can feel. I dont expect massive gains in horsepower but id like to see some better throttle response and was wondering if anyone thought that headers would be a good way to go. I also am considering headers for a difference in sound as well. I already have a magnaflow muffler on my car right now and think the headers might help. Id also like to do some mods to my car on my own without a shop and was wondering if anyone had headers put on their car and what their thoughts were.
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Old 05-27-2012, 05:12 PM   #2
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Shorty headers will give you very little power change. If you got longtubes then you will get great increases in power but they're very expensive because you have to get a shorty catted midpipe. The v6 sounds like crap with no cats
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Re: Headers

i had a complete stainless works v6 true dual exhaust and long tube headers on my car.. no cats. it sounds better then some Gt's ive heard. Their kits are expensive but well worth the $$. i can get you 10% off their systems or even just the headers if your interested. I put another stainless works exhaust on my car when i swapped it to a 5.0 coyote. so worth the $$, the thing sounds mean as hell
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Shorty headers will give you very little power change. If you got longtubes then you will get great increases in power but they're very expensive because you have to get a shorty catted midpipe. The v6 sounds like crap with no cats
I am under the impression that long tubes are illegal, I live in ny and am looking to do the sane thing but I dont want to buy something illegal and not be able to put it on
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long tube headers are not illegal. If its a street car and your county requires emissions all you need are cats.
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long tube headers are not illegal. If its a street car and your county requires emissions all you need are cats.
I second that!
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long tube headers are not illegal. If its a street car and your county requires emissions all you need are cats.
It depends on how strict the area is... Try getting any of that to fly in California
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long tube headers are not illegal. If its a street car and your county requires emissions all you need are cats.
If there are cats then won't it eliminate the throaty sound that it is suppose to give?
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No I had A v6 06 and well if it didn't have cats to tone it down it would have sounded really bad
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No I had A v6 06 and well if it didn't have cats to tone it down it would have sounded really bad
What would you recommend for an exhaust set up?
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Well I had a shop custom fab a h pipe for me and all the piping back to slp loudmouths and lol a Camaro SS driver mistook it for a gt and the idle will be loud and deep lol louder then my gt and if I had to say the idle is also as deep
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I want to get a system to mimic the classic cars that people usually see at car shows, anything that you know of?
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I want to get a system to mimic the classic cars that people usually see at car shows, anything that you know of?
Lol a v6 will never be able to do that and if it's the loopy idle u want u need cams and no one makes them unless it's custom also u can't make something sound like something it's not and most classics are v8's
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Lol a v6 will never be able to do that and if it's the loopy idle u want u need cams and no one makes them unless it's custom also u can't make something sound like something it's not and most classics are v8's
It's Unfortunate that your right, but I just want something that will get performance and a mean sound that will get peoples attention
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Well I had a shop custom fab a h pipe for me and all the piping back to slp loudmouths and lol a Camaro SS driver mistook it for a gt and the idle will be loud and deep lol louder then my gt and if I had to say the idle is also as deep
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This is what you need then
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Well I feel that that route will be expensive and I like to do all my own work myself and I don't know if I can fabricate my own pipes lol
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Well I feel that that route will be expensive and I like to do all my own work myself and I don't know if I can fabricate my own pipes lol
Just buy the slp cat back and have a muffler shop bend the pipes for you to get true duals with a h pipe and that's all you need single exhaust is nowhere as good as true duals and for a shop to bend it and weld it'll be 600 with the shop making the hangers for it that's what I had done and it was well worth it
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Maybe haha I don't trust mechanics and shops
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Maybe haha I don't trust mechanics and shops
Go to minakie or any other muffler shop u trust
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We will see I still want to shop around but ill keep that in mind about the shops if you really trust them
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We will see I still want to shop around but ill keep that in mind about the shops if you really trust them
I did and I got perfect results and they give u a year warranty with the work too
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If you are looking for performance gains bassiani is the only company that has shown decent gains in their systems, up to 15 hp, shorty's will give you no gain as they don't flow any better than stock headers, only do long tubes of you go FI or you will lose some bottom end and torque
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If you are looking for performance gains bassiani is the only company that has shown decent gains in their systems, up to 15 hp, shorty's will give you no gain as they don't flow any better than stock headers, only do long tubes of you go FI or you will lose some bottom end and torque
Bassani isn't the only muffler that adds gains misinformation and is biased based on sound :p
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Bassani isn't the only muffler that adds gains misinformation and is biased based on sound :p
Kenne bell and vortech both did studies on different exhaust systems both studies showed bassiani to yield the highest amount of gains , we are talking about the exhaust system not just the muffler , and I'm not biased based on sound because I have a flow master system , I think it sounds better than bassani
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Lol he's asking on sound and as far as the testing it's under their conditions not every day people conditions so it's not reall applicable to average cars in average conditions
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Lol he's asking on sound and as far as the testing it's under their conditions not every day people conditions so it's not reall applicable to average cars in average conditions
O but it is , if the system is giving 15hp under there conditions it's safe to say it would yield 5-8 hp in an average car the system is less restrictive so it flows better
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O but it is , if the system is giving 15hp under there conditions it's safe to say it would yield 5-8 hp in an average car the system is less restrictive so it flows better
So other systems can do that that's not true at all lol maybe true for a v6 but not a v8
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So other systems can do that that's not true at all lol maybe true for a v6 but not a v8
Sure it is , all the tubbing is mandrel bent so it's all less restrictive , the restrictions come from how the companies manufacture their product, baffles inside mufflers and cats not only give the company it's sound but what also caused these restrictions in flow
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Sure it is , all the tubbing is mandrel bent so it's all less restrictive , the restrictions come from how the companies manufacture their product, baffles inside mufflers and cats not only give the company it's sound but what also caused these restrictions in flow
U won't see the same power gains mod for mod when comparing same mods on a v6 with a v8 the v8 will always make more power from the same mods
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U won't see the same power gains mod for mod when comparing same mods on a v6 with a v8 the v8 will always make more power from the same mods
I can't argue with you there! but IMO the exhaust system is a mod that will give you the same gain in either application
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I can't argue with you there! but IMO the exhaust system is a mod that will give you the same gain in either application
No not at all XD haha sorry but any mod on a gt will give u more then a v6
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No not at all XD haha sorry but any mod on a gt will give u more then a v6
That's not what I'm saying of course the v8 is going to put out better #'s but a mod like an exhaust system will free up the same amount of horse power in both applications
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That's not what I'm saying of course the v8 is going to put out better #'s but a mod like an exhaust system will free up the same amount of horse power in both applications
No the gt will make more power from exhaust mods then the v6 lol idk what ur saying ur saying it'll make better numbers then say a v6 will match it mod for mod in the exhaust department which is untrue
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